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Posted on 03/20/2012 5:18:57 AM PDT by thackney
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Natural gas to boost U.S. trade, Lombard Odier says
http://fuelfix.com/blog/2012/03/20/natural-gas-to-boost-u-s-trade-lombard-odier-says/
Link only due to Bloomberg content
I’m all for technology and advancement and becoming energy-independent, but reading that article made my eyes bleed...
Ohhhhhh!
I thought this was another Joe Biden thread.
In the mid to late 90’s, IIRC, the USPS, Brooklyn Union Gas and some other fleet operators had LNG / gasoline vehicles.
You could refill the LNG at the pump behind the post office! (If you had the special charge cards)
Seemed like a pretty good system at the time. I do not know if they still operate that way
It would be ideal if the LNG could be pipelined, but it may be too volitile for urban or suburban areas
The only energy problem we have is the gummit.
Pray for America
NO, NO, NO,!!!!!!
That doesn't fit in with the "green energy" plan that Zer0 has laid out. We need solar, wind, algae, and bicycles to solve the emissions problem!!!!!
Availability of fueling stations has been the big issue. Truckers will not convert to LNG unless there are fueling facilities, and it makes no sense to install fueling facilities if there are no customers.
UPS has done something about it, setting up a corridor between California and Las Vegas
The new LNG-powered tractors will pull trailers on a transit lane linking Ontario, California, and Las Vegas, Nevada, along with UPS's 11 existing LNG tractors.Installing LNG pumps at truck stops along I-95 every 200 miles would do a lot towards making LNG viable as a truck fuel, and would do a lot more for promoting energy independence than subsidizing the Chevy Volt.UPS plans to build publicly accessible LNG fuel stations in Las Vegas and will be able to access existing fuel stations in Ontario, California, and Salt Lake City, Utah, filling in an LNG trucking corridor that extends from California to Utah.
Presently, UPS along with FEDex are converting their fleets of LOCAL delivery trucks from gasoline to natural gas.
From what I have read, both companies have secured long term price deals with natural gas providers in order to rid themselves from the wildly fluctuating gasoline prices. In the long run these deals will keep operating costs down.
This is how the free market works. Eventually other industries will do similar conversions fuel prices will eventually stabilize.
Yes. All is proceeding as it should. Across the country, individuals and businesses are making informed decisions about their individual situations and acting accordingly.
Amazingly, no government involvement is necessary and no tax breaks are required. Now, if we can just keep the grandstanding Congress from jumping out in front and passing legislation designed to accomplish what we're doing on our own already.
Zackly.
Now, sit down, Mr. T. Boone.
The only roadblock is government. PERIOD
I would gladly convert my cars to dual fuel use for NG and Gasoline as the conversion kits have been on the market for years.
However, there is only one NG filling station in Western New York which allows us lowly citizens to use. The others (16 or 17 I believe) are all owned by NY State (which should mean us but it does not) and we are not allowed to fill our vehicles there. Only DOT vehicles are allowed.
If it were not for NY State this would be a no brainer. You could use NG when it was available or simply flip a switch and run on gasoline if you ran out of NG. In my area I would spend most of the time on gasoline so the conversion would not make much sense.
I’m converting my house to “duel fuel” - ie, everything that can practically be NG instead of electric is going that way.
And for the rest, I’m putting in a NG generator,
for when “electricity prices necessarily skyrocket”.
They’ll probably never get to the point where it’s cheaper to make my own than to buy off the grid, but what if the electric grid simply isn’t there?
I believe there is also some type of tax credit involved.
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