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To: BillyBoy; Thunder90; napscoordinator; cripplecreek; AmericanInTokyo; Antoninus; Lazlo in PA
We really should get this clarified.

As far as I can tell from the official state congressional district map, Wheaton is in Congressional District 6. If BillyBoy is right, Santorum **DID** qualify for delegates there.

What BillyBoy says appears to be confirmed by the Los Angeles Times article on the election, here: http://www.latimes.com/news/politics/la-pn-illinois-delegates-guide-20120320,0,2470940.story

I have in front of me the real-time update map broken down by counties from Huffington Post: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/03/20/illinois-primary-2012-results-map_n_1368335.html

The map indicates 99 percent of the vote is now in, with one county, Macoupin, still missing. It indicates Romney won DuPage County (home of Wheaton College, and historically a center of evangelical influence) by 54 to 28 percent for Santorum. I am not an expert on Illinois politics, but it looks like Romney took not only the urban but also the suburban areas of the state and Santorum’s support was confined largely to the rural areas of Illinois.

I can't quickly find a breakdown of Santorum-Gingrich votes by Congressional district, but here's an interactive map of congressional districts: http://gis.elections.il.gov/map_viewer/default.aspx

When compared with the Huffington Post county reports, if Santorum didn't file a delegate slate in CD-13, that means he missed out on a swath of territory from north of St. Louis running through central Illinois south of Springfield up past Decatur and extending to Bloomington and the Champaign-Urbana area. CD-4 (which is horribly gerrymandered), CD-5, and CD-7 appear to be a mix of urban and close-in suburban districts. This is unfortunate; I've spent a lot of time in those areas of the state when I worked for a different newspaper and some of those areas have a high population of white-flight people whose parents carried with them Chicago's race-based politics and have become Republican voters, though often for reasons I very much dislike. I would have thought Santorum would be able to get delegates in those areas relatively easily and I don't understand why that didn't happen unless he simply didn't get the boots-on-the-ground organizational help he needed.

165 posted on Tuesday, March 20, 2012 11:20:36 PM by Thunder90: “Santorum did not qualify for the ballot in Wheaton and in some areas of Southern IL.”

186 posted on Wednesday, March 21, 2012 2:18:35 AM by BillyBoy: “I live in Illinois and Rick Santorum was ON THE BALLOT in EVERY single congressional district and county in Illinois... The lie was started by kooky Paulbots (”only Ron Paul is on the ballot in enough states to stop Romney!”) and it's amazing conservatives still fall for it. He was missing a handful of delegates in 4 districts. In 3 of those districts: 4,5, & 7, they were liberal urban districts in Chicago that he stood little chance of winning. All 3 are safe Democrat in November and went to Romney easily for the few people that voted in the GOP primary. In the last, IL-13, it was a moderate GOP in the ‘burbs he had a slight chance of winning and might be deprived of 3 or 4 delegates that he earned if that happened. However, Romney won IL-13 today.”

189 posted on 03/21/2012 1:28:35 AM PDT by darrellmaurina
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To: darrellmaurina

Indeed. Here is the website for the Republican committeeman for Milton township, DuPage county. That’s where the town of Wheaton, Illinois is located. If you look at his list of GOP candidates in Wheaton for the 2012 election, look what name pops up... Rick Santorum! (as well as his delegates) Funny, I thought he “wasn’t on the ballot” there:

http://www.campaignsitebuilder.com/templates/displayfiles/tmpl13.asp?SiteID=196&PageID=49897&Trial=false


193 posted on 03/21/2012 2:05:17 AM PDT by BillyBoy (Illegals for Perry/Gingrich 2012 : Don't be "heartless"/ Be "humane")
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To: darrellmaurina; Thunder90

The “not on the ballot in areas of southern Illinois” is even easier to refute than the “not on the ballot in Wheaton” B.S., since Santorum’s best numbers were in southern Illinois. Here is a map of the county-by-county totals in Illinois. As you can see, Santorum won all but 2 counties south of Springfield in the lower half of the state:

http://dailycaller.com/2012/03/20/illinois-gop-primary-results/

In the two counties he lost in southern Illinois, St. Claire and Coles, Rick Santorum trailed Romney by only 1% in both of them. Here are the numbers reported in those counties. Pretty impressive feat...receiving thousands of votes when he “wasn’t on the ballot”, wouldn’t you say:


St. Claire county
Mitt Romney 42.5% 6597
Rick Santorum 41% 6,363

Coles county
Mitt Romney 39.1% 2,344
Rick Santorum 38.8% 2,328


Are there any more “not on the ballot” areas of Illinois where I need to list the number of votes Santorum received?


251 posted on 03/21/2012 9:05:40 AM PDT by BillyBoy (Illegals for Perry/Gingrich 2012 : Don't be "heartless"/ Be "humane")
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To: darrellmaurina; BillyBoy; Thunder90; napscoordinator; cripplecreek; AmericanInTokyo; Antoninus; ...

According to that map, in 18 out of 28 counties that Romney won, Newt and Rick’s combined vote totals would have beaten him. And a lot of those were close enough that he wouldn’t have needed all of Newt’s votes either. I’m not clear how the counties relate to districts though. Are vote totals separated out by the districts available anywhere? It would be interesting to see how many delegates we lost due to the vote splitting.


254 posted on 03/21/2012 10:42:18 AM PDT by JediJones (The Divided States of Obama's Declaration of Dependence: Death, Taxes and the Pursuit of Crappiness)
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