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To: Sans-Culotte
Zimmerman appears to have stalked this kid and shot him for no reason other than thinking he was in the wrong neighborhood.

According to the tapes, Zimmerman called the police to come to the neighborhood because he spotted Martin who was acting suspiciously. Zimmerman mentioned that Martin was wearing a hoodie and had his hands in his waistband. Zimmerman opined that Martin had something he was hiding. The implication was that it could be a weapon. The police advised Zimmerman not to follow Martin and that they would meet with Zimmerman when they got there. Zimmerman agreed to meet with them and asked them to call him on his cell phone when they arrived.

It appears from the various tapes that there was some sort of altercation with both men wrestling on the ground. From reports that I have seen, Zimmerman is clearly the bigger man weighing 250 pounds to Martin's 140 pounds. It is clear from the tapes that someone is calling for help.

Based on this information, it is hard to see this as a premeditated murder. Zimmerman clearly acted out of bounds and should have followed the advice of the police and not confronted Martin. Until we know the details of what prompted the altercation, it is difficult to form any conclusive judgment on exactly how and why lethal force was used. It is a tragedy, but it is hard to classify it as a hate crime.

32 posted on 03/21/2012 7:43:19 AM PDT by kabar
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To: kabar
Based on this information, it is hard to see this as a premeditated murder. Zimmerman clearly acted out of bounds and should have followed the advice of the police and not confronted Martin.

I don't think it was premeditated either. But it does appear to be an unnecessary death. I walk armed any time I walk, and frankly, when I see yutes in hoodies I stay extra vigilant. However, not all hoodie wearers are gangbangers.

I just think conservatives rallying around Zimmerman makes us look like the "Free Mumia" libtards.

35 posted on 03/21/2012 7:52:42 AM PDT by Sans-Culotte ( Pray for Obama- Psalm 109:8)
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To: kabar
From reports that I have seen, Zimmerman is clearly the bigger man weighing 250 pounds to Martin's 140 pounds. It is clear from the tapes that someone is calling for help.

Looking at his picture in #14, a lot of the 240 pounds may be fat. Size does not equate to strength.

52 posted on 03/21/2012 8:31:21 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act. - George Orwell)
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To: kabar
Based on this information, it is hard to see this as a premeditated murder.

Two fools in the same neighborhood. One more so than the other.

Rules For Surviving A Gunfight:

(1) Bring a gun.
(2) Anything worth shooting is worth shooting twice.
(3) Leave no other witnesses.
(4) etc. etc.

72 posted on 03/21/2012 9:38:09 AM PDT by imardmd1 (An armed society is a polite society (if one is very wise).)
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