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Top Romney adviser: Mitt will erase his conservative positions once hes the nominee
WaPo ^ | 032112 | Greg Sargent

Posted on 03/21/2012 8:42:55 AM PDT by Fred

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To: Fred

I’m reading a book now by someone who hates democracy and seems to be a monarchist.

He hasn’t persuaded me to adopt those opinions (well, the first one somewhat), but a Romney-Obama election might.


151 posted on 03/21/2012 6:05:27 PM PDT by WPaCon
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To: magritte

What is the “middle” for Mass. Mittens?

Yeah, lying and deceiving voters matters. Our political system is dying from elitist lies, disloyality and dishonor.


152 posted on 03/21/2012 6:12:38 PM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: monkapotamus

OHHHHH he is etch sketch Hey Monk have you seen this I found this on UK Telegraph LOL!

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/us-election/9155838/US-election-2012-Mitt-Romney-parodied-in-Eminem-spoof-Will-the-real-Mitt-Romney-please-stand-up.html


153 posted on 03/21/2012 6:23:26 PM PDT by SevenofNine (We are Freepers, all your media belong to us ,resistance is futile)
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To: GeronL; Fred

Newt Gingrich: ‘Having an Etch-A-Sketch as your campaign model raises every doubt’

http://youtu.be/qlhmzzfU8G4


154 posted on 03/21/2012 6:31:48 PM PDT by Marguerite (When I'm good, I am very, very good. But! When I'm bad, I'm even better)
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To: Marguerite

Newt is right on the money with that one


155 posted on 03/21/2012 6:46:49 PM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: SevenofNine

Haha


156 posted on 03/21/2012 6:48:17 PM PDT by monkapotamus
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To: VRW Conspirator

Agitprop?

Mark Levin was all over it and played the tape!

Hank


157 posted on 03/21/2012 7:26:06 PM PDT by County Agent Hank Kimball (Screw it. Newt's the smartest candidate and the guy I want to see debating Obummer. Flame away.)
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To: VRW Conspirator

Agitprop?

Mark Levin was all over it and played the tape!

Hank


158 posted on 03/21/2012 7:26:18 PM PDT by County Agent Hank Kimball (Screw it. Newt's the smartest candidate and the guy I want to see debating Obummer. Flame away.)
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To: VRW Conspirator

Agitprop?

Mark Levin was all over it and played the tape!

Hank


159 posted on 03/21/2012 7:26:18 PM PDT by County Agent Hank Kimball (Screw it. Newt's the smartest candidate and the guy I want to see debating Obummer. Flame away.)
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To: VRW Conspirator

Agitprop?

Mark Levin was all over it and played the tape!

Hank


160 posted on 03/21/2012 7:26:18 PM PDT by County Agent Hank Kimball (Screw it. Newt's the smartest candidate and the guy I want to see debating Obummer. Flame away.)
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To: Do Not Make Fun Of His Ears
"Mitt stinks, but you’d rather have Obama? Wow."

I would and here's why.

Their governance would be 100% indistinguishable. No difference. Nada. Which means driving us to decline.

SO...if that's going to happen anyway, better that the Dems be blamed than the GOP.

In addition, it would teach the GOP a lesson (assuming it is educable) that it can't keep shoving the Doles, McStains and Myths down our throats.

Hank

161 posted on 03/21/2012 7:31:44 PM PDT by County Agent Hank Kimball (Screw it. Newt's the smartest candidate and the guy I want to see debating Obummer. Flame away.)
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To: County Agent Hank Kimball; Do Not Make Fun Of His Ears
>”Their governance would be 100% indistinguishable. No difference. Nada”<

Surely you jest... You think that Romney would Nominate the same two or three Justices to serve on the SCOTUS that Obama would?

Again, surely you jest. At least I hope so.

162 posted on 03/21/2012 7:41:48 PM PDT by Kickass Conservative (A day without Obama is like a day without a Tsunami.)
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To: mojito

“Which conservative positions are those, exactly?”

I dunno. Hoping you knew.

:)


163 posted on 03/21/2012 8:25:15 PM PDT by Absolutely Nobama (Mitt Trotsky and his wingman RuPaul should return to Tehran.)
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To: eak3

...”What’s sad is that a lot of Freepers even after reading this will still vote for Mitt if he gets the nomination, and rationalize it by thinking anything is better than Obama.”

Wow... In other words, you’re saying you think Obama is BETTER than Mitt.

Haven’t you realized yet that Presidential elections ALWAYS force us to vote for THE LESSER OF TWO EVILS??

Other than Reagan, I’ve never seen anything but a “Lesser than two evils election.”

Though George Shrub wasn’t an evil person, he was pathetically inarticulate and folksy so was an easy target for the liberal media. I voted for him rather than Albore or KetchupKingKerry.
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Do you realize that if you stand out this election in a stubborn protest against a repub candidate you don’t like, you’re giving one vote, by default, to the Marxist? You do realize that, don’t you?

YES, I’m in the “ANYTHING BUT OBAMA CAMP,” aren’t you???

If there is no other choice other than an anti-Obama vote (and assuming the other choice is even more pathetic like Reverend Wright, Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackwagon), YOU VOTE FOR THE MORE CONSERVATIVE CANDIDATE.

What am I missing here? Seems like you want Obama for 4 more years rather than a Repub you don’t like. Do you realize that the country may not survive that?

Yes, I’ve heard the tripe about how “Mitt will tarnish the reputation of conservatives, so we can’t choose him, but better to have Oblamer for another 4 years.”

But face it: 1) Mitt will primarily tarnish the reputation of Mitt, and 2) Conservative image has already been tarnished by George Shrub.

Get real, dude.


164 posted on 03/21/2012 8:56:38 PM PDT by AlanGreenSpam (Obama: The First 'American IDOL' President - sponsored by Chicago NeoCom Thugs)
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To: McGruff; cripplecreek; gitmogrunt; RIghtwardHo; detective; eak3; manc; alstewartfan; LyinLibs; ...

My thoughts exactly, all of ‘em. Around my neck of the woods we’ve never been so steamed at the GOP brass as we are now the way they’re heedlessly shoving Mitt down our throats despite the same message, 100 different ways, that we don’t want him. He personifies everything about the Republican Party establishment and it’s country-club incompetence that’s shackled the conservative movement for the past two decades.

— RINO-ism. Little introduction needed, not even Juan McCain can hold a candle.
— Political opportunism. Defined Mitt Romney’s entire career, a “Republican” who made sure to cozy up to Planned Parenthood and liberal judges in shameless imitation of Mitt’s real idol, Ted Kennedy.
— Wishy-washy, equally opportunistic corporatism, always happy to pretend support of conservative causes but then equally ready to stab traditionalist conservatives in the back if short-term profits are at stake. Thus the corporate mealy-mouthing against conservative radio hosts who- shockers- dare to take on the MSM and speak openly about controversial issues. Or the corporatist factions who make their money, and thus necessitate deals with juicy big government contracts and cronies in high places. This is Mitt’s style from his Bain days, which is a world apart from Reagan’s free-market capitalism and the bootstrap entrepreneurism of gutsy small-business owners. Addressing real business concerns like decreasing red-tape, or knocking down small business taxes, let alone the idiot world-wide taxing and double-taxing that us productive expats and exporters have to put with, is never on Mitt’s agenda. For similar reasons:

— Globalism and neoconism, the same phony “conservatives” like Juan McCain or Ruby-Red Giuliani who despite their self-applied label, manage to be at odds with traditionalist heartland conservatives on just about everything. As Gingrich and Santorum have both pointed out, Mitt made sure during his Bain tenure to maximize his pension-raiding and job-gutting in heartland communities full of law-abiding hard-working Christian conservatives. Followed up by outsourcing their jobs to other countries and supporting intiatives to flood their once prosperous communities with mass immigration to push down wages, and to break up the spirit and traditional, patriotic values that bound them together. Straight out of the NWO globalist, back-stabbing, pseudo-conservative play-book.
- Loser-ism. So the GOP establishment drinks the MSM Kool-Aid and proclaims Mitt to be the most “electable”, based on polls that at this point are little more than name recognition contests? All this when Mitt can’t fire up crowds, can barely win a primary in his own home state without almost buying it off, out-spends his rivals sometimes up to 10:1 but still gets less than half the votes in almost all states, and even then gets humilliated by Santorum or Gingrich (or both) consistently in key heartland states and the conservative core of the country? This is our “frontrunner”? Santorum and Gingrich have both done far more with much less.
- Blind Europhobe-ism. My wife and I now spend about half the year in Europe for our business, and the place is a mixed bag but there are plenty of rock-solid conservatives there with exemplary success and things to learn from. Heck the Finns, Swiss, Germans and Danes have become worlds more conservative then the US under Barrack especially on issues like securing the borders, managing their finances, reigning in both the culture Marxists and the banksters with all their community-wrecking mischief, encouraging small business entrepreneurs and other marks of traditionalist conservatism. Even Greece where we do a chunk of our business, with all it’s blunders and failures, still has a more tradtionalist conservative bent in some important areas and thus a chance to recover. Reagan and Buckley both knew this and so learned what they could from Europe’s conservatives to improve the movement here. But not Romney. No, with Mitt it’s hate all of Europe all the time even the conservative countries, rather then learning a thing from them. This despite Mitt hiding out in a chateau in France on his Mormon mission sipping Cabernet, while real conservatives were out defending their country and getting shot at in Vietnam. Yet more proof of how much of a poser he is.

We can only hope now that both Santorum and Gingrich clobber him in Louisiana, not just by a small margin, despite Mitt’s now customary attempt to buy votes and bamboozle the public. Maybe on the scale of Mitt’s defeat in Minnesota- if it happens even now at this point it might finally pressure the brass to realize what the base has known from Day 1, that Mitt is toxic and they’d better get their support behind a real conservative fast. If they ignore us yet again and push Mitt through, there’s gonna be thousands who’ll burn our GOP registrations and probably millions more privately. A nice metaphor for the establishment burning the bridges with the base.


165 posted on 03/22/2012 2:16:46 AM PDT by Javeth (RINO, Romney, Gingrich, the base, Santorum, globalism, loser, neocons, Europhobia)
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To: magritte

The biggest difference between Romney and Clinton is Clinton was a better liar


166 posted on 03/22/2012 2:20:07 AM PDT by personalaccts (Is George W going to protect the border?)
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To: eak3
I guess ill have to bathe in peroxide after pulling a lever for Romney

Me too but I will do my part and vote out Obama. In SC, there is no way that Obama will win this state, but I will vote against him regardless of who we put up.

167 posted on 03/22/2012 3:19:21 AM PDT by submarinerswife (Insanity is doing the same thing over and over, while expecting different results~Einstein)
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To: magritte; Jim Robinson
run to the edges during the primary and return toward the middle to pick up General Election moderates. Is this really shocking to anyone?

About Romney it should be shocking. Of all candidates, Romney SHOULD not go to the middle because he is a supposed "conservative convert" from liberalism. Any move on Romney's part to the left is simply Romney moving back to his familiar soil.

This is exactly, by the way, what Romney did after the 2008 primary. "Convert" Romney was endorsing gay unions within months of McCain losing the election.

The bottom line is that Romney is a liar.

I will not support him for any reason. In fact, I will work to defeat him with a 3rd candidate. My hopes would be twofold: (1) To recreate the Republican party, or (2) to build a real, conservative alternative party.

168 posted on 03/22/2012 6:14:51 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Pray Continued Victory for our Troops Still in Afghan!)
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To: xzins

I’m confused why you posted to me and pinged Jim? Are you actually so politically naive that you believed Romney was going to run in the general as a conservative?


169 posted on 03/22/2012 7:02:03 AM PDT by magritte (Gladys Knight: Mormon Siren?)
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To: personalaccts

Excellent observation. Clinton covered his liberal roots with great glibness. Romney can’t pull it off.


170 posted on 03/22/2012 7:05:43 AM PDT by magritte (Gladys Knight: Mormon Siren?)
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To: magritte

My post to you and ping to JR were separate. One was responding to you, and the other was a reminder to him that Romney had reverted to gay agenda Mitt after the last election.

Not that he had forgotten, but, I hoped not.

I guess it’s because I don’t want FR to become a Romney friendly place after the primary if Romney gets the nod.


171 posted on 03/22/2012 7:39:20 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Pray Continued Victory for our Troops Still in Afghan!)
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To: magritte

“Pretty much every election both Republicans and Democrats run to the edges during the primary and return toward the middle to pick up General Election moderates. Is this really shocking to anyone?”

The difference is the Democrats really are liberals (and govern as such), while the faux conservatives like Romney really are liberals (and govern as such).

I’ve said it before, and say it again: I WILL NEVER VOTE FOR ROMNEY.


172 posted on 03/22/2012 7:49:36 AM PDT by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem.)
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To: olrtex

If this was a vaccuum, you’d have a point.

But Romney has shown, repeatedly, he is willing to lie and take any position to be elected, so this statement merely confirms what has been repeatedly shown.

Romney is the worst type of hypocrite: he looks all pretty and kosher on the outside, but is rotten to the core on the inside.


173 posted on 03/22/2012 7:53:57 AM PDT by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem.)
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To: Fred

this pretty much sums up everything I have ever feared about Romney, and I am more determined than ever never to cast a vote for this fraud.

I want this to go to the convention so we can pick some one else.


174 posted on 03/22/2012 8:19:47 AM PDT by TexasFreeper2009 (Go Newt!)
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To: Fred; TitansAFC; onyx; LuvFreeRepublic; Sea Parrot; SweetCaroline; matthew fuller; Gator113; ...

Newt Gingrich Ad: ‘Sketchy Romney: Everything Changes’

http://youtu.be/UfkdJZg4jqI


175 posted on 03/22/2012 8:26:03 AM PDT by Marguerite (When I'm good, I am very, very good. But! When I'm bad, I'm even better)
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To: Marguerite

wow...

that ad is brutal!

if only this had come out 2 months ago :(

the best we can hope for now is taking this to the convention, and picking someone decent.


176 posted on 03/22/2012 8:33:49 AM PDT by TexasFreeper2009 (Go Newt!)
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To: All

14 Bald-Faced Mitt (Etch-a-Sketch) Romney Flip-Flops That Were Dug Up By John McCain in 2008

http://www.businessinsider.com/14-bald-faced-mitt-romney-flip-flops-that-were-dug-up-by-john-mccain-2012-1?op=1


177 posted on 03/22/2012 8:34:27 AM PDT by Marguerite (When I'm good, I am very, very good. But! When I'm bad, I'm even better)
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To: Marguerite
Excellent ad!

Romney is a LIBERAL!

178 posted on 03/22/2012 8:37:26 AM PDT by RoosterRedux (Obama: "Will someone rid me of that Nettlesome Newt?")
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To: TexasFreeper2009

Everything in that ad was on youtube for years and well known two months ago.


179 posted on 03/22/2012 8:37:36 AM PDT by Marguerite (When I'm good, I am very, very good. But! When I'm bad, I'm even better)
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To: xzins

If Romney is in my focus will be on keeping MO red and beating Claire McCaskill. I am confident on red, but a weak candidate hurts the 2nd.


180 posted on 03/22/2012 8:40:17 AM PDT by magritte (Gladys Knight: Mormon Siren?)
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To: Marguerite

yes, but the etch-a-sketch comment pulled it all together into an easily digestible sound bite for the ignorant masses.


181 posted on 03/22/2012 8:40:43 AM PDT by TexasFreeper2009 (Go Newt!)
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To: DannyTN

“”There you have it. Dems, predictably, are pouncing on the remark, arguing that it validates their message that Romney has no core and will say or do anything to get elected.””

Well, we knew it and now we have it from one of Romney’s people. That comment will go a long way to bringing Romney down and cut down his votes from Republicans and Independents. That Etch-A-Sketch isn’t going away.

Maybe, just maybe, more primary votes go to Newt and Santorum because of this and keeps Romney from getting enough delegates.


182 posted on 03/22/2012 8:45:48 AM PDT by Marcella (Vote Newt; Newt needs money)
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To: Marguerite

Awesome ad....any idea what kind of play it’s getting (other than youtube)?


183 posted on 03/22/2012 8:47:38 AM PDT by Jane Long (Soli Deo Gloria!)
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To: Jim Robinson; Semper911
FUMR!! NO ROMNEY!!

Agreed, but... Let's make sure I understand you.

If Willard is the nominee, come November, you'll not vote for him, even if you're convinced that's the only way to keep Obama from winning a second term because no other candidate has a chance. Then, if it's Romney vs. Obama Unleashed, you either don't care who wins or, you prefer the Marxist over the pretender.

A woman called into Mark Levin's show last night with a similar sentiment. He was just as incredulous as I have been.

But, hold on. Now it occurs to me that, if the GOP sees enough of you (us) who take this stand, ... Maybe this can help to bring about a brokered convention. So, it's definitely worth a try. You're right; it's too early to talk about caving in to the Establishment. I'm going to put away this "If Willard is the nominee" stuff until after the convention and pray that we won't need it anymore by then.

Thanks for your patience.

184 posted on 03/22/2012 8:59:03 AM PDT by newgeezer (It is [the people's] right and duty to be at all times armed. --Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Marguerite

LOVE IT! Why can’t enough people see how Newt Gingrich would change things for the better as our President?


185 posted on 03/22/2012 9:21:14 AM PDT by Spunky
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To: Marguerite
"Everything in that ad was on youtube for years and well known two months ago."

And still the SHEEPLE vote for him. :-(

186 posted on 03/22/2012 9:24:19 AM PDT by Spunky
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To: AlanGreenSpam

I will not vote for Mitt Romney I want a conservative president not a Democrat lite wishy wash like Romney. I know a lot of Republican/Conservative voters that feel the same. I know many say this will only help Obamma, but I simply cannot vote for Mitt Romney....


187 posted on 03/22/2012 10:20:59 AM PDT by LB4BUSH
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To: Carry_Okie

Sorry Carry, my reply was meant for the poster above yours : / I was in such a hurry to get out of the house and to an appointment that I replied to the wrong poster : o

You can imagine when I got home and settled down to read your reply, shakes head. I was sitting there thinking, “Well heck, Carry, if you think that why did you say that other statement!?”, which I realized after going back and looking at the thread, it was because YOU had not said it, lol.

Ah me.... After all these years, that was a first for me, and I hope the last!

Take care, and may God guide our course.
Tatt


188 posted on 03/22/2012 11:08:52 AM PDT by thesearethetimes... ("Courage, is fear that has said its prayers." Dorothy Bernard)
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To: monkapotamus

That reason I post a link just in case nobody hear of the song by Eniemem originally LOL!


189 posted on 03/22/2012 11:19:30 AM PDT by SevenofNine (We are Freepers, all your media belong to us ,resistance is futile)
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To: monkapotamus

That reason I post a link just in case nobody hear of the song by Eniemem originally LOL!


190 posted on 03/22/2012 11:19:34 AM PDT by SevenofNine (We are Freepers, all your media belong to us ,resistance is futile)
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To: thesearethetimes...
No problem.

I've got several of those to my credit in ten years.

191 posted on 03/22/2012 11:27:10 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (The RNC would prefer Obama to a conservative nominee.)
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To: Javeth

This guy Romney is a fraud, and between him and Paul, they are proving that a near majority of GOP primary voters are chumps. BTW, I’ll be seeing Rick, and I’m sure lots of Romulens at at a Harrisburg conference on Friday and Saturday, so I think there will be quite a few tough exchanges there.


192 posted on 03/22/2012 1:38:04 PM PDT by alstewartfan ( 27 of 36 Romney judicial appointments were DEMOCRATS!!!!!)
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To: County Agent Hank Kimball

Dang Hank, 4 pings, hair trigger!


193 posted on 03/22/2012 2:39:26 PM PDT by VRW Conspirator (Neo-communist equals Neo-fascist)
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To: Kickass Conservative

I take it you haven’t examined his judicial appointments, including ones who foisted homomarriage upon Massachussets and crucified the Boy Scouts. Romney appointed almost exclusively leftist judges and there’s no evidence beyond his word that he won’t do so as President.

And we know what Myth’s word is worth, don’t we? Or do actually believe him?

Hanl


194 posted on 03/24/2012 6:27:47 PM PDT by County Agent Hank Kimball (Screw it. Newt's the smartest candidate and the guy I want to see debating Obummer. Flame away.)
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To: WPaCon

Sounds like Hoppe’s “Democracy: The God That Failed?”

If so, Hoppe is not a monarchist.....but does believe that monarchy inevitably lead to more liberty than pure democracy. Hoppe is an anarchocapitalism, I believe.

Hank


195 posted on 03/24/2012 6:30:44 PM PDT by County Agent Hank Kimball (Screw it. Newt's the smartest candidate and the guy I want to see debating Obummer. Flame away.)
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To: County Agent Hank Kimball

Actually, “Leftism: from de Sade and Marx to Hitler and Marcuse,” by Erik von Kuehnelt-Leddihn.

Both books are actually available for free on mises.org’s webstie.


196 posted on 03/24/2012 7:44:20 PM PDT by WPaCon
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To: County Agent Hank Kimball
Hank, I am aware of his stint in MA. My point was simply this, Obama will not bend to any pressure from Conservatives or Republicans so we will end up with the worst of the worst. It is a guarantee. It will be Obama’s Nothing to Lose second Term, and he will milk it for all it's worth.

IF Mittens wins the Republican Nomination and IF he wins the General against the Dear Leader, we have a good chance of influencing his choices, just as the uproar against Harriet Meyers and Amnesty forced Bush, a RINO in his own right, to back down and make the right decisions.

IF you think Obama and Romney are one in the same, there is nothing I can say to change your mind. It is beyond my comprehension that anyone could believe that, but here we are. I have said all I can say about it.

Vote for Daffy Duck if you like in the General Election if Romney ends up being the guy running against Obama. You are not alone here on FR with that idea. Other FReepers like myself disagree. So be it.

I am a Newt supporter, but the reality is my guy might not make it to the end. The same goes with Santorum, and I think Santorum would fare much worse against Obama than Romney would. Just my opinion and everyone here is entitled to theirs.

Good luck to you my FRiend. As Doris Day famously sang, what will be will be.

197 posted on 03/24/2012 9:33:26 PM PDT by Kickass Conservative (A day without Obama is like a day without a Tsunami.)
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To: submarinerswife

Let me give that a try: as for Obamacare, it was modeled on Romneycare and you’re making an absurd argument if you want us to believe Mitt Romney is going to repeal the measure. Then you might want take a closer look at Romney’s support for gun control including Clinton’s ban on semiauto rifles. As for queers in the military, Romney said he was better than Ted Kennedy for gays, his judicial nominees ruled in favor of cross-dressing in schools, and he openly endorsed gay pride. Mitt Romney is quite progressive and he will lose the election..this is 08 only worse


198 posted on 03/25/2012 8:23:42 PM PDT by Advocatus Sancti Sepulchri
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