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To: HamiltonJay; All

“Sorry, but Zimmerman lost any chance at self defense when he directly confronted the guy... He created the confrontation.”

Are you seriously saying that a resident cannot walk up to a stranger in the community and ask him why he is there?

If that is what you are saying, it simply is not true.

Zimmerman had as much right to be in that public space as Martin did.


65 posted on 03/21/2012 1:28:37 PM PDT by marktwain
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To: marktwain

Zimmerman had a right to be there, he didn’t have the right to confront Martin. Zimmerman’s actions directly created the confrontation, you think otherwise you are a fool.

You assume the altercation began with Martin, it didn’t it began with Zimmerman shadowing him, getting out of his car, and confronting him. To claim self defense when you instigated the confrontation is silliness.

He didn’t just say, Hey you, what are you doing? He got out of his car, walked right up to him and confronted him. In fact he had to be so damned close that they could physically touch each other for any altercation to occur. Zimmerman doesn’t have a leg to stand on in a Self Defense argument in my mind.

I think Zimmerman not only confronted Martin, but likely was the first person to make physical contact as well. However either way, claiming stand your ground when you violate someone elses is nonsense.. Zimmerman is no victim, he’s a fool who bit off more than he could chew and then killed a guy when it didn’t go how he wanted.

He clearly created the situation, so to claim self defense is nonsense.


66 posted on 03/21/2012 1:34:38 PM PDT by HamiltonJay
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To: marktwain
Are you seriously saying that a resident cannot walk up to a stranger in the community and ask him why he is there? If that is what you are saying, it simply is not true. Zimmerman had as much right to be in that public space as Martin did.

He could have asked what he was doing from a distance. Look, if you come into close contact space (ie - your reach), after getting out of your care, with what could very well be interpreted as bad intentions, I'm not going to respond politely. I have no idea who you are. You could be a robber.

I'm going to first try and get out of dodge, like Martin probably did. If I can't get out of dodge, I'm going to use appropriate force to stop the threat beyond all certainty.

71 posted on 03/21/2012 2:18:49 PM PDT by Darren McCarty (Time for brokered convention)
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