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To: NYer

Vindicated?

“The Catholic pedophile scandal in Holland is a horrific case of abuse, betrayal and evil. Tossing the incendiary charge of castration into this cesspit of moral corruption cheapens the suffering of those who were abused.” - article

Facts not in dispute:
- A boy growing up in Catholic care was sexually abused
- At age 20 this victim of abuse was castrated

Vindicated?

Really?


7 posted on 03/22/2012 6:26:03 AM PDT by Triple (Socialism denies people the right to the fruits of their labor, and is as abhorrent as slavery)
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To: Triple

As other replies have pointed out, castrated by whom?

Also as other replies have pointed out, the pedophile/homosexual abuse scandal in Holland has been exposed and rightly vilified and so even more reason for the church to reject homosexuality.

So what’s your point?


9 posted on 03/22/2012 6:39:59 AM PDT by squarebarb
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To: Triple
It helps to read a thread in its entirety:

Read through the journal article and you will find all the details you will ever want to read about a dark chapter of Western medicine which saw castration as a tool in a public health program to improve the human race through eugenics and to combat what that age saw as criminal sexual deviancy.

Facts not in dispute: - A boy growing up in Catholic care was sexually abused - At age 20 this victim of abuse was castrated

Again, according to the article:

It offers uncorroborated anecdotal evidence from a man dead 54 years to insinuate the Church was complicit in a gruesome crime — yet we don’t know if it was a crime. The history offered is full of gaps and makes assumptions — was the victim in the care of a Catholic institution when he reported the abuse? Was he passed from Catholic institutional custodial care to a Catholic-affiliated psychiatric hospital to a Catholic-affiliated surgery center for sterilization? Under what circumstances was the claim of abuse made? The journal article reports that castration was ordered by the state for those found to be mentally deficient or who were incorrigible sexual offenders. Who was the victim? Could the Catholic Church order the castration of a young man? How was that possible?

Perhaps like the NYT, you would prefer to view the Catholic Church as the oppressor.

11 posted on 03/22/2012 7:11:16 AM PDT by NYer (He who hides in his heart the remembrance of wrongs is like a man who feeds a snake on his chest. St)
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To: Triple

Yes, Triple. In this case, the Catholic Church acted in precise accord with ethical standards. The offense was reported by people within the Church, two people went to prison, and the abused were treated in what was at at the time considered ethical and humane.

In contrast, the modern standard would probably be to tell the victim to “celebrate his newfound sexuality,” leading him to a life of debauchery, perdition, and quite likely a host of STDs.


13 posted on 03/22/2012 7:14:43 AM PDT by dangus
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To: NYer

A disciple of Kinsey? Enough said.

http://h-net.msu.edu/cgi-bin/logbrowse.pl?trx=vx&list=h-histsex&month=0411&week=d&msg=WYiwmgMxTaC/Vpfhf9HIaw&user=&pw=

Watch the Children of Table 34

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vltmeBPKAAo

Absolute Wickedness (Interesting to see the effect across culture, scary)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X1VVuraWrMQ

Note: Make sure your kids aren’t around when you see this.

Remember his sex studies affected the social structure, laws, education as well as the church. He and Masters and Johnson were the ‘groundbreaking’ sex authorities, so-called ‘researchers’ and ‘scientific experts’. He spoke They were the case law books re: sexuality.

L v. Texas, others, case in point:

http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=2135

And culture has never been the same.

I know things about Kinsey that would make people kill themselves. Like other ‘sex’ researchers, they projected their sicknesses into ‘everybody does it’ normalcy. This took a huge toll on soldiers returning home after WWII, after more women were in the workforce and not with the kids. The perverts headed straight for the home, feminism, everyone cheats, kids are sexual from birth (sex ed), the courts, etc..


23 posted on 03/22/2012 2:46:31 PM PDT by AliVeritas (God's will be done. Pray, Pray, Pray, Penance, Penance, Penance.)
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To: NYer
This is one of Kinsey's charts re: orgasms, anyone see anything insidious? Read Architects of the Culture of Death by DeMarco. He was one of the sickest men ever (hanging out with satanists and absorbing Darwin whole).


24 posted on 03/22/2012 2:47:35 PM PDT by AliVeritas (God's will be done. Pray, Pray, Pray, Penance, Penance, Penance.)
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