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To: Jim Noble

But according to what is in the police report (sorry,don’t have marktwain’s police report pdf thread handy) he did de-escalate by heading back to his truck.


35 posted on 03/24/2012 5:17:16 AM PDT by cport (How can political capital be spent on a bunch of ingrates)
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But according to what is in the police report (sorry,don’t have marktwain’s police report pdf thread handy) he did de-escalate by heading back to his truck

Right. I started by saying that a "he said...he said" case will be hard to resolve with one of the two dead.

calex59, it's NEVER been the law that you can use deadly force in a fight where you are a willing participant. J.... Ch...., how many manslaughter convictions have there been coming out of bar fights?

All I'm saying is that I DON'T KNOW if the Florida "stand your ground" law CHANGES THE COMMON LAW OF SELF-DEFENSE, and I asked if any knowledgable freepers could enlighten me.

Do you know if the Florida "stand your ground" law CREATES the right to use deadly force once you start losing a fight in which you are not the aggressor but which you could avoid by reasonable conduct?

I mean, you have the right to be in a given bar, and you have the right to fight back if attacked, but if you wade into a bar fight that you didn't start, punch a guy, and he falls, hits his head, and dies, that's manslaughter, right?

All I'm asking is, in Florida now, if under the same circumstances, he knocks you down and you shoot him, is that legal and proper use of "stand your ground"?

53 posted on 03/24/2012 5:38:24 AM PDT by Jim Noble ("The Germans: At your feet, or at your throat" - Winston Churchill)
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