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To: Tax-chick
The Federal regime requires the schools to show improving results, and yet they are unable to actually produce improved student performance.

Yes. There are certainly bad teachers out there, but I put most of the blame on the students and their families. The Buffalo teachers' union [I'm no fan] is fighting the state now to exclude chronically truant students from teacher evaluations. It only seems right, but the state won't have any of it.

The teachers are being made to take the fall for the bureaucracy's unwillingness to confront the social issues of race and chaotic families.

16 posted on 03/25/2012 8:03:45 AM PDT by BfloGuy (The final outcome of the credit expansion is general impoverishment.)
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To: BfloGuy
I put most of the blame on the students and their families.

*shrug*

Everyone has an opinion. However, it is a fact, not an opinion, that a large percentage of schools do not teach phonics and do not teach and require mastery of arithmetic skills. This results in myriads of students who can't read or do basic, much less advanced, math.

Classroom teachers really can't be blamed for this - the curriculum comes from a much higher level (and this is part of the problem, of course), where people like Bill Ayers are "educational theorists."

17 posted on 03/25/2012 8:10:02 AM PDT by Tax-chick (Does your life need some excitement? Become a Cub Scout leader!)
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To: BfloGuy

The Buffalo teachers’ union [I’m no fan] is fighting the state now to exclude chronically truant students from teacher evaluations. It only seems right, but the state won’t have any of it.
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Maybe, just maybe, if these truant kids were forced to attend that the overall scores of the entire class would drop dramatically. Why?

Answer: Because the disruption caused by the children who are resentful for being imprisoned against their will in their government school classroom would be so great that the child who wanted to learn would be unable to learn.


21 posted on 03/25/2012 8:54:35 AM PDT by wintertime (Reforming a government K-12 school is like reforming an abortion center.)
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