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Report of 1 Kilo Gold Bar Filled with Tungsten Found in UK
Coinweek.com ^ | Mar 26, 2012

Posted on 03/26/2012 2:54:56 PM PDT by KeyLargo

Report of 1 Kilo Gold Bar Filled with Tungsten Found in UK

March 26, 2012

“What appears to be a tungsten filled gold bar has been found – this time in the UK. It is believed that a scrap dealer bought the Metalor 1 kilo gold bar of 99.98% purity from a member of the public.

Metalor are a leading international gold refiner and bar manufacturer, headquartered in Zurich. The bar appears to have been tampered with and may have had holes drilled into it or melted out and then had tungsten rods inserted or tungsten poured into the holes.

Tungsten is a metal with a similar density to gold but which bullion dealers and experts in physical bullion can easily identify.

It follows an incident of a tungsten filled gold bar (500 gram) originating from an unnamed bank being found by Heraeus in Germany two years ago [See Video Below] and there have been rumours of tungsten filled gold bars in Asia, China and in Vietnam.

There was also an unverified report in 2009 that the Chinese received a fake shipment of gold that, in fact, was tungsten. The bars have led to much speculation regarding the possibility that some of the gold bars making up central bank gold reserves may not be investment grade gold bullion.

Presidential candidate, Ron Paul has raised the question as to whether the gold bars in Fort Knox are authentic and even asked whether some of the US gold reserves have been secretly sold off and asked questions regarding the authenticity of the US gold reserves gold bars.

In the UK, there have been doubts about the quality of Britain’s paltry remaining gold stock as some of the gold bars are reportedly cracked, have fissures and are ‘beginning to crumble’. The Bank of England have denied suggestions that the gold may have been ‘adulterated’, and insisted that most of the hoard is in ‘mint condition’.

The incident shows the importance of dealing with reputable and trusted experts in physical bullion coins and bars and with dealing with counter parties who take these issues seriously.”


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; Government
KEYWORDS: 201203; archimedes; bullion; counterfeitgold; counterfeiting; fake; fakeingots; fortknox; fraud; gold; goldreserves; ingots; isolatedincidents; preciousmetals; robbery; scam; tungsten
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To: KeyLargo

How much of the Ft. Knox booty is gold plated tungsten?


21 posted on 03/26/2012 3:55:51 PM PDT by Rebelbase
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To: KeyLargo

First, find a bathtub.
Second, kick out that naked Greek guy,
Third, put your gold bar into the tub and measure how much water sloshes out.

Yada yada yada


22 posted on 03/26/2012 3:59:48 PM PDT by DManA
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To: KeyLargo
tungsten poured into the holes.

I want to see that.

The melting point of tungsten is higher than the boiling point of gold.
23 posted on 03/26/2012 4:01:03 PM PDT by UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide (REPEAL WASHINGTON! -- Islam Delenda Est! -- I Want Constantinople Back. -- Rumble thee forth.)
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To: Travis McGee

Heard this on the business news. Seems it is making waves.


24 posted on 03/26/2012 4:10:23 PM PDT by CodeToad (I'm so right-wing if I lifted my left leg I'd go into a spin.)
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To: guitarplayer1953
When was the last time anyone actually saw the gold in fort Knots?

1964 Goldfinger

25 posted on 03/26/2012 4:14:11 PM PDT by ChildOfThe60s (If you can remember the 60s....you weren't really there)
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To: DManA

Eureka,Greek for “this bath is too hot.”


26 posted on 03/26/2012 4:15:00 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: Greysard

I like the part where the piece says that the Bank of England says “most” of the gold is in mint condition. “Most”? What does that mean?


27 posted on 03/26/2012 4:24:09 PM PDT by ChildOfThe60s (If you can remember the 60s....you weren't really there)
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To: Cicero

I recall speculation that security at Fort Knox tripled not to protect the gold but to protect discovery of what was there.


28 posted on 03/26/2012 4:29:29 PM PDT by mcshot (Friends of A. Breitbart concerned by removal of US flags near the Presidential podium.)
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To: CodeToad
This can only happen as an act of collusion by the deliverers and the receivers. It's too easy to detect a fake in those sizes. Only if it is “understood” that the testing protocols will be intended to be beaten and gone around, does the deal go forward. If both parties are honest, and demand and conduct stringent testing upon delivery, fake bars can't be passed. Assuming that a significant (undefined in advance) number of bars will be removed for lab-level destructive testing, before the contract will be finalazed and custody exchanged.

It's an inside job. The names are known. People go to jail. Or they should. But they are known.

29 posted on 03/26/2012 4:32:59 PM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: KeyLargo
Dust the bar for Bill and Hillery Clinton's fingerprints. The other possibility is it fell out of Michelle Obama’s purse on a vacation shopping spree.
30 posted on 03/26/2012 4:33:56 PM PDT by liberalh8ter (Barack has a memory like a steel trap; it's a gift ~ Michelle Obama)
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To: Noumenon

I cannot listen to a word that guy says because I’m totally stricken with awe at his hair! How? Why? Good grief!


31 posted on 03/26/2012 4:36:02 PM PDT by MWestMom (The heart of the wise inclines to the right, But the heart of the fool to the left. Ecclesiastes10:2)
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To: mcshot
I recall speculation that security at Fort Knox tripled not to protect the gold but to protect discovery of what was there.

You mean the one about it being blocks of Government cheese with gold foil gift wrapping? Mouse traps gave it away, huh?

32 posted on 03/26/2012 4:40:05 PM PDT by Covenantor ("Men are ruled...by liars who refuse them news, and by fools who cannot govern." Chesterton)
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To: MWestMom

I think he’s a glue-sniffer. It would explain a lot, no?


33 posted on 03/26/2012 4:43:49 PM PDT by Noumenon ("I tell you, gentlemen, we have a problem on our hands." Col. Nicholson-The Bridge on the River Qwai)
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To: Covenantor
It's all just a bunch of Nestle's Chunky


34 posted on 03/26/2012 4:47:24 PM PDT by Noumenon ("I tell you, gentlemen, we have a problem on our hands." Col. Nicholson-The Bridge on the River Qwai)
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To: DManA

That tells me the volume of the bar, but how does that measure the density of the bar? A bar of gold and am identical size bar of silver would both displace the same amount of water, would they not? (assuming of course that both bars sink)


35 posted on 03/26/2012 5:04:10 PM PDT by calljack (Sometimes your worst nightmare is just a start.)
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To: KeyLargo

I knew this just had to be out there, as with fake silver bullion as well. They need to run current density tests to be sure.


36 posted on 03/26/2012 5:04:26 PM PDT by SgtHooper (The last thing I want to do is hurt you. But it's still on the list.)
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To: SgtHooper

I think that when transferring bars, a little random destructive testing is normal. The drill don’t lie.


37 posted on 03/26/2012 5:05:56 PM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: I cannot think of a name

I was wondering why they didn’t fill them with lead.


38 posted on 03/26/2012 5:13:33 PM PDT by Venturer
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To: Noumenon

I think an alien is his barber.


39 posted on 03/26/2012 5:16:00 PM PDT by DManA
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To: calljack

No, the won’t because they have different specific gravities.

There is some question about whether Archimedes could have measured the different volumes of water accurately enough to prove the royal crown maker was a crook.


40 posted on 03/26/2012 5:18:39 PM PDT by DManA
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