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Just think! The 85 essays called THE FEDERALIST were written to explain the Constitution to farmers in upstate New York and throughout the states. According to Jefferson, they were to be used in the University of Virginia Law School to train lawyers, along with Blackstone's Commentaries.

Had Matthews and the other so-called "progressives" understood the essential ideas of liberty expounded by Madison, Jay and Hamilton in those essays, they would not have "trouble" understanding why this mandate is "unconstitutional."

If one uses as a standard the intellectual arguments articulated in the debates of the 1787 Convention, and among the participants debating ratification of the proposed U. S. Constitution throughout the States in 1787-88, then what an embarrassing look into the mind and thought process of current Justice Kagan in some of her questions and statements!

Justice Breyer's nonsensical musings, when combined with those of Justice Kagan, should alarm every citizen who cherishes the Constitution's underlying principles, as articulated and explained by America's Founders and Framers of that Constitution's protections for liberty.

My post from another thread related to Kagan:

"Kagan: "'The exact same argument so, so that really reduces to the question of: why is a big gift from the federal government a matter of coercion?
"'In other words, the federal government is here saying: we’re giving you a boatload of money. There are no, is no matching funds requirement. There are no extraneous conditions attached to it.
"'It’s just a boatload of federal money for you to take and spend on poor people’s healthcare. It doesn’t sound coercive to me, I have to tell you.'"

This statement tells us everything we need to know about Justice Kagan's concept of "coercive power" versus "individual liberty" and the Constitution's protections for the latter.

America's Founders viewed "government" as "coercive" by nature.

America's Founders understood that "government" creates no money, has no money, and cannot "gift" money without first "taking" it from someone--a "coercive" act in itself.

Besides, this "boatload of money" is not "federal money." It is "the People's" money, and who is naive or uninformed enough to believe that "taking" it from the people, sending it to Washington, and then doling it out to the States is an efficient way to provide "poor people's health care"????

Oh, how far we have come from the genius and wisdom which gave birth to America's Constitution, America's liberty for all, and America's prosperity and greatness!!!

I hope that these members of the Supreme Court will understand that future generations of Americans and individuals all over the world, given the new technologies which enable them to study the Founders' ideas, will judge them by the Framers' standards, not by the standards of the so-called "progressive" politicians in this Administration.

"Ideas have Consequences" (Weaver). America's Founders' ideas produced freedom, opportunity, prosperity and plenty for hundreds of millions of oppressed people.

The "progressives'" ideas of redistribution (socialism) have produced approaching tyranny and oppression, mediocrity, and want, in every society where they have been tried.

11 posted on 03/29/2012 6:19:59 PM PDT by loveliberty2
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To: loveliberty2

Nice rant - many great points.


20 posted on 03/29/2012 6:31:48 PM PDT by GOPJ (Democrat-Media Complex - buried stories and distorted facts... freeper 'andrew' Breitbart)
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To: loveliberty2

-——”Kagan: “’The exact same argument so, so that really reduces to the question of: why is a big gift from the federal government a matter of coercion?
“’In other words, the federal government is here saying: we’re giving you a boatload of money. There are no, is no matching funds requirement. There are no extraneous conditions attached to it.
“’It’s just a boatload of federal money for you to take and spend on poor people’s healthcare. It doesn’t sound coercive to me, I have to tell you.’”—

Reading Kagans quote....I can only imagine what Scalia,Roberts,Thomas smust be thinking.....


27 posted on 03/29/2012 6:37:51 PM PDT by Popman (America is squandering its wealth on riotous living, war, and welfare.)
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To: loveliberty2

Bttt.


64 posted on 03/29/2012 8:02:31 PM PDT by Inyo-Mono (My greatest fear is that when I'm gone my wife will sell my guns for what I told her I paid for them)
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