Posted on 03/30/2012 6:29:41 AM PDT by IbJensen
Good post!
Thanks.
It’s the truth, and the bottom line truth. And it’s the reasons for all the checks and balances that the founders wrote into the Constitution.
But the money-changers don’t like it...
:-)
They ex parte met with, and bowed before,
an undocumented, if not foreign, litigant
on a case before them, HERE:
.
this is what I’ve been saying we need do take back our towns counties and states and get off the teat then the gov will shrink.
Speaking of extortion in regards to taking federal money, Mayor Janice Daniels of Troy Michigan is facing recall for refusing to accept federal money.
She’s true tea party victory.
Maybe it's me and I'm not smart enough to understand enlightened jurisprudence, but Kagen sounds like a dumbass here...
And might I add it’s the reason the United States is now what, 15T?? in debt.
Because it’s not real. It’s insubstantial. It’s phantom, hypothetical.
It's my opinion that the conservative justices know they have Kennedy's vote....and choose not to challenge Ginsburg on ethical grounds at this time. Why argue with success?
Approaching 80, Bader-Meinhof is the oldest Justice on the Court. She's undergone surgery for pancreatic surgery and probably will resign after the November election, so why give her the personal pleasure of recusal publicity if they don't have to. She's best ignored as the inept nebbish she is.
(Gee, I hope I'm correct on my assessment that the votes are in the bag, shudder, shudder. But I'd lay book that they are).
Leni
I would imagine the states have not had much choice along the way. It seems the Federal monster has gradually taken the power away, with the help of the judiciary at all levels. Yes, some blame goes to the states, but the power was largely taken by force.
Once the states take money from the federal government, they have to dance to the fed’s tune. This is how the federal government has got its talons into everything from education, to land management, to industry regulation, to, well, everything.
Public schools used to be exclusively run by the individual states, districts, and counties - now an ever-growing part of what happens in public schools is driven by the agenda the federal government has on tap - and it’s only going to get worse.
Why should they, when you have at least 1 SC Justice on the record telling a foreign country to not use our Constitution as a model for theirs, because it is flawed?
He's blaming the States for what Congress has done, and the USSC was complicit in.
“increased reliance on the federal government for money”
If this federal money as they call it. Is collected in their state. Do not they have a right to some of it? Leftist aka progressives think tax dollars are they governments. Not the taxpayer.
this is not a good line of questioning for tossing obamacare.
If you accept federal money once you give up EVERYTHING?
I think the Civil War had a little something to do with states losing their sovereignty.
There’s a big problem in that the states did give up a lot of their power via both the 17th Amendment and the craven greed of accepting federal funds (with all of the attached strings).
HOWEVER.
This is utterly irrelevant with regard to the clearly unconstitutional insurance mandate, in which the federal government seeks to compel private citizens to purchase a product from a private party. The federal government does not have that power ANYWHERE in the Constitution, and taking off on a tangent about the states is destructive toward the end of reigning in the feds. Roberts should concentrate on THAT.
Further, once the mandate is tossed out for being well beyond the power of the feds, the rest of the law MUST be tossed out - because there was no severability clause. Even forgetting the fact that Congress knows damned well how to insert a severability clause into any law (and, thus, by not putting it there that evidences its intention), you have the FACT that the House version of this law included such a clause - but the Senate version and, more importantly, the version approved by Congress and signed by Obomination lacked such a clause. That is CLEAR evidence to me that Congress clearly intended to have the entire law flushed down the toilet if so much as a single clause of the law was later ruled to be unconstitutional.
Toss the mandate and toss the law, Roberts. Do your damned job.
As for the states, if they had any brains they’d start a petition for a Constitutional Convention for the purpose of repealing the 17th Amendment. Once 35 or 36 states sign on, Congress will act to pass such an amendment and then 38 states can ratify it, obviating the need for a CC and, more importantly, repealing that piece of statist trash that is the 17th Amendment.
It is long past time for the states and the people to reign in the power of the dictatorial feds.
“If you accept federal money once you give up EVERYTHING?”
No you do not. Only leftist aka progressive think that way. They feel they can threaten states into compliance with their agenda by withholding tax dollars collected in the state. Ocare is wrong because it forces people to purchase a product. Simply to lower the cost of the product for others. And that never works.
pgyanke#8: The States became wards of the Federal government in the 17th Amendment. You effectively went to a House of Representatives and a House of Super Representatives. The voice of the States was lost in the Senate.
Paine in the Neck #9: This problem started with the institution of the income tax and was made infinitely worse with the introduction of direct withholding. Once the Feds could rab all the money first evryone was put in the position of being supplicants on their knees with begging bowls.
Only above items which were done via USC are binding, since the only way to change the supreme law is via amendment; those amendments needs be removed. The states acceptance of bribery and coersive moneys from USG is not binding, but a side effect of those broken amendments. The Reserve is not binding and anything buy coin/species is un-USC, therefore it required an amendment.
USG is and has been a criminal organization for some time.
Crime: 1. An act committed or omitted in violation of a law forbidding or commanding it ... 2. Unlawful activity
...in relation to the Reserves _money_ VS USC. USCongress in regards to law requiring a budget. Thousands if not millions of further acts against the law on an ongoing and escalating manner.
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