Posted on 03/30/2012 11:10:18 PM PDT by neverdem
Are you familiar with Heather MacDonald? Did you read the whole essay? The violent crime statistics in this essay are jaw dropping. She frequently writes a very anti-crime and pro-police agenda as well as anti-illegal immigration essays. I never saw her push a gun-grabbing agenda.
First, initiating an encounter is not the same thing as initiating hostilities. For a neighborhood watch volunteer to inquire why someone not from a gated community is walking through in the wee hours is not out of line.
The question is, with the boiling animus of racist victimhood percolating just subcutaneously, was the response to such an enquiry hostile and did it utilize force? One need not have a weapon to kill someone, blunt force trauma using hands and/or feet accounts for a significant enough percentage of murders every year, albeit behind the use of weapons, and repeatedly striking someone's head against a hard object will do the trick.
Cain smote Abel with a rock (the first recorded murder), and bringing the head to the rock instead of the other way around can be equally effective.
At that point, Zimmerman is under attack using lethal force, and to respond in kind, regardless of the means, could be justified if Zimmerman did not initiate the physical confrontation.
To assume guilt on Zimmerman's part (Because he survived the encounter? Because his skin tone is lighter? Because he had a technological advantage that permitted him to prevail?) is crap, especially when the facts have been carefully filtered by the media.
“You furnish the pictures and I’ll furnish the war.” - William Randolph Hearst
Like perhaps a little bag of Skittles? And some iced tea?
Maybe a more extensive search of the area would reveal the 'skittles and iced tea'. Use drug dogs...
Why didn’t the girlfriend come forward when she learned Trayvon was dead? She had to know he was shot and killed yet, according to what I read, Trayvon’s parents only discovered the conversation between the two when they saw the cell phone records. This was weeks later. Why didn’t the girlfriend come forward immediately?
Unless Martins killer, George Zimmerman, had reason to believe that Martin was armed, shooting him was a grossly disproportionate response to a fistfight, even leaving aside the fact that Zimmerman had initiated the encounter.>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
George Zimmerman is innocent until proven guilty. Our criminal law should not be changed because we have a liberal fascist temporarily occupying the White House.Nor should our laws of due process be changed.
I doubt Zimmerman will ever be convicted of any offence in relation to the alleged murder. The Sanford Police Department concluded the homicide was justified. The fact that Martin happened to be a black man had nothing to do with it.Zimmerman acted in fear for his life when Martin tried to grab Zimmerman’s gun . The facts show that Zimmerman had a broken nose, and a laceration to the back of his head.Martin also said that Zimmerman was going to die.
Zimmerman was conservative with his responce shooting only once. I would have emptied an entire clip into him, whatever his race might have been.He could have been a purple genome from Mars for all I would have cared given these facts. We are free men, not subject to these thugs.
All this caterwauling is pure fascism, designed to cow White America into giving up its streets to black thugs prowling terror for Barrak Hussein Obama, our pretend president who we actually know little or nothing about.
Make white America vote out of guilt for Barak Hussein Obama? Alinsky is very much alive.
Let America lock and load. The media has been complicit in spreading this terror. Let them bring it.Its time to put these Obama fascists and their terrorist MSM supporters to bed for good.
Good Read:
http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html
http://www.faithfreedom.org/obama.html
He's Hispanic.
He's a Democrat.
And he probably voted for Obama.
Good job. These are the facts as I understand them, and as I analyze them as well. And IMHO, it was this analysis that was made by the Sanford Police Department.
All the rest is simply raw emotion fanned into flames by race mongers, among whom numbers a sitting president of the United States, who is unqualified for the office.Obama’s lack of qualification shows.Big Time. Obama is complicit in removing the due process constitutional rights of Zimmerman, in public with the help of his fascist running dogs and the fascist propaganda media.How could Zimmerman ever get a fair trial? Obama has launched a lynch mob, and America should deny him.
Now any criticism of Obama is to be judged as “racist” yet again?Spare me the Alinsky violin music.This is not about Martin or Zimmerman. Its about Obama.
Good Read:
http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html
“I take it you havent read what Martins girlfriend said about the conversation over the phone right before Martin confronted Zimmerman.”
Sure did and it only proves that words were exchanged but as an observation I have to ask, doesnt the first person to speak start the conversation or confrontation in this case?
Okay, I'm with you 100% on liberals, democrats, and progressives. But blacks? Seriously? Don't do that on here. Aren't you/we above that?
With friends like this who needs enemies?
My feeling as well. The mother says she called in Sharpton because she couldn’t get any justice; maybe she did, maybe she didn’t. The widespread media blitz and professional race baiters and agitators involvement makes me question her statement. It’s an election year after all and ala Rahm, “no crisis should go to waste”.
When did she first make a public statement?
I don’t think that we’re her audience. That opening paragraph is a throwaway. Her real audience are moderates and the mushy middle, particularly blacks.
This is a call for hard reflection and to “stand down” from the racial flames being fanned by the likes of Sharpton, et. al.
"Heather Needs An Editor", should be her headline.
She led with an apologia (just unconscionable), buried the lede, and those stats should be bullet points (oh, the irony...).
This author's drivel should come with a complimentary barf bag.
Here's a clue, "Heather". Real life fist fights are nothing like the ones on TV. People do not actually trade blows for several minutes, and then end the affray with both parties simply breathing heavily and perhaps a slight trickle of blood from the corner of the loser's mouth.
Fights in real life are often short, violent affairs, usually with one or more parties attempting to inflict maximum, crippling, permanent damage on another, who is trying to defend themselves from said damage. There is a reason cops refuse to trade blows with people they deal with in the street, they often see the results of REAL fights in the course of their job.
This garbage was almost as nonsensical as the idiot poster here the other day that suggested that Zimmerman should have shot to wound Martin, rather than killing him. What we have is a lot of folks who are giving us their stupid opinions, because they "feel" that the events should have happened differently. Stop "feeling", and start THINKING.
Better yet, Heather, go do some research. Find one of these punks who plays the "Knockout Game" on unsuspecting white people, and give them one free punch... one attempt to knock you out with a single blow. Chances are that you will suffer broken facial bones, lost teeth, a broken jaw, a concussion, and possibly the loss of sight in one eye as a result. Your appearance and your emotional state (perhaps even your ability to think clearly. Nah, never mind, that doesn't seem to be an issue.) will be altered forever. That, from a single blow from someone who is playing a GAME.
I did not read the rest of Heather's article either. She had lost any and all credibility in the first paragraph. Maybe in the future she will learn to save the "touchy- feely" nonsense for the LAST paragraph.
My firearms instructor told me “the day you shoot a person will be the worst day of your life.” Hopefully, the race-baiters will not provoke more violence. If you are a hammer, the whole world looks like a nail; if you are a racist everything is solely about race.
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