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Republicans need to unite to win
Sun-Sentinel ^ | April 1, 2012 | Noelle Nikpour

Posted on 04/01/2012 1:29:22 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife

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To: EternalVigilance
It is a republic, but it is based on the votes of the people, making it ultimately democratic.

GW was probably right, but it hasn't worked out that way.

Hamilton, Madison and Jefferson, started the first parties BTW.

141 posted on 04/01/2012 8:08:39 AM PDT by A.Hun (Common sense is no longer common.)
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To: Guenevere
She's making an April Fool's joke. But I agree: mitt will be abusing our need to vote against Obama "no matter what," and as a conservative I do resent him using us so, and the Media / Establishment Republicans forcing him on us from day 1.

There is no reason to just lie back and submit to the rape YET. If we have to, we have to, but let's go down fighting him off all the way. Vote / support Santorum. Unite around him to deny Romney delegates.

142 posted on 04/01/2012 8:09:20 AM PDT by Yaelle (Donate to Rick to stop Romney in WI! Make calls, pray, donate!!)
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To: Psalm 144

If it wasn’t for the abject fear of Obama, the Romney Republicans would have nothing at all.


143 posted on 04/01/2012 8:09:33 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (You can be a Romney Republican or you can be a conservative. You can't be both. Pick one.)
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To: A.Hun

Bush did not cut taxes. He did NOTHING to halt and significantly augmented the growth of government and that comes out of our hides one way or another, either today or tomorrow.

Bush was a disaster. McCain would have been a disaster. Romney will be a disaster. Thank the Elite GOP for this record of shame.


144 posted on 04/01/2012 8:10:28 AM PDT by DManA
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To: DManA

Sorry if I offended you, but sometimes the truth hurts.

And don’t tell me to stop expressing my opinion.

Unless you are prepared to stop expressing your own.


145 posted on 04/01/2012 8:11:43 AM PDT by altura
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To: A.Hun
It is a republic, but it is based on the votes of the people, making it ultimately democratic.

No. It is ultimately a constitutional republic, "an empire of laws, not of men."

146 posted on 04/01/2012 8:11:50 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (You can be a Romney Republican or you can be a conservative. You can't be both. Pick one.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Once the general election begins, Republicans must be sure to fight the battle on their terms.

With Mitt Romney as our William Wallace???

Bwaaa ha ha ha ha haaaaaaaaa!!!

147 posted on 04/01/2012 8:14:44 AM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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To: altura

Why in the world would I be offended by being accused of whining? And why would someone accuse me if whining if not to shut me up? Or start a fist fight.


148 posted on 04/01/2012 8:15:53 AM PDT by DManA
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To: Psalm 144

Reagan was a diehard Republican for a reason....the alternative was minority status forever giving the true socialists in America free reign.

I think the Republicans will make great strides this election, just as they did in 2010...with or without zealots. Thats because the Democrats have screwed up and finally shown their true colors. Their positions are so egregious that even the MSM can’t lie them out of it this time. They’ve lost young people, Catholics, even a lot of blacks.

Conservatives need to build on this, not turn your backs because they won’t be conservative enough. We could have built on the 2004 Repubs, but we’re not known as the stupid party for nothing.... So many “conservatives” can’t see farther than there own noses.


149 posted on 04/01/2012 8:16:38 AM PDT by A.Hun (Common sense is no longer common.)
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To: Psalm 144

Not that the Romneys, or the Romney Republicans, actually fear another Obama term, by the way. I was told that one of the Romney sons pooh-poohed any idea that Obama represents any real threat to the country.

Reminiscent of John Judas McCain’s happy talk about Obama four years ago.

It’s who these people are.

Frankly, they don’t really have any problem with the communist in the White House. They just think they can do socialism better and more effectively.

Sadly, they’re probably right. The Romney governorship in Massachusetts being Exhibit A.


150 posted on 04/01/2012 8:16:58 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (You can be a Romney Republican or you can be a conservative. You can't be both. Pick one.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife; LucyT

The individual who is in charge of polling analysis for (I Believe) Weekly Standard is periodically interviewed on FOX and makes what I view as the telling point.

The assumption is that people who vote against Romney in the primaries will unite behind him in the general against the greater negative of Zero.

Unquestionably that is true for a large segment of the approximately 60% of the primary voters who do vote against Romney. But, as the analyst regularly points out there is a hard core of at least ten percentage points of that vote that will not vote for Romney under any circumstances and his view sees the no Romney vote as closer to sixteen to eighteen percentage points. In any kind of election that translates into at least five to nine percentage points of margin against the Republicans.

The problem is worse. Many of that five to nine percentage points will not even go to the polls. Thus not only does it beat Romney, it also tips the close races down the ballot against the Republicans.

Not only can Romney not win, he will help defeat many Republicans who might otherwise have been elected.

Why is that? Romney is at best, a status quo candidate and the Country cannot survive with the status quo so why vote for him—take Obama and begin the liquidation of the United States.

Who instead? None of these four candidates is really a legitimate Presidential contender with the possible exception of Gingrich.

Gingrich has proven to be incapable of managing a policy making political effort. He had several opportunities and muffed them all. He wants to take credit for the Clinton balanced budgets but those were not negotiated priority budgets and were the work of Rubin and the financial policy managers engaged by Clinton.

I would vote for Gingrich if it were a choice between him and Zero but many will not.

Neither of the other two have the personal force or intellectual swat to do the job.

I have just finished reading Glen Beck’s “On Being George Washington”—whatever you may think of Beck, the book is a masterpiece. However one of the central messages is that Washington was a man of committed personal faith—God prospered him as a leader.

As bleak as things looked from time to time, he persevered because he knew God would provide.

Now you may or not be a Christian—you are certainly free to believe whatever you choose. But to me, this looks like the period from 610 BC to 586 BC in Israel—God judged Israel by removing its leaders.


151 posted on 04/01/2012 8:23:07 AM PDT by David
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To: DManA

When did I accuse you of whining?

I did not. I now accuse you of lying about my posts.

I didn’t address you at all.

I simply expressed the opinion to another poster who was attempting to reason with you that this was an exercise in futility as you and others like you are busy worshipping at the altar of your own infallible opinions.

You are not interested in reason or good sense and your arm is probably aching from patting yourself on the back for being the last holdout for righteousness.

So have fun with it, but don’t make more of a fool of yourself. I don’t care if you shut up or not and I am a very small woman who never starts fist fights.


152 posted on 04/01/2012 8:24:07 AM PDT by altura
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To: David

Well said and accurate.


153 posted on 04/01/2012 8:31:21 AM PDT by Errant
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

I gots no problem uniting. ‘long as I don’t have to units behind RINO Myth Romney. The man is a pathetic joke. If he is the nominee, we automatically get four more years of nobama.

REELECT NOBAMA - VOTE FOR MITTENS


154 posted on 04/01/2012 8:39:35 AM PDT by upchuck (Need is not an acceptable lifestyle choice; dependent is not a career. ~ Dr. Tim Nerenz)
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To: A.Hun
with or without zealots

To translate out of Romney Republican-speak: "Anyone who won't support the most liberal governor in the history of the republic."

Just keepin' it real.

155 posted on 04/01/2012 8:40:13 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (You can be a Romney Republican or you can be a conservative. You can't be both. Pick one.)
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To: EternalVigilance

The GOP has made it perfectly clear that they don’t want conservatives in the party. They have it all covered with the socialist wing of the GOP which they call “moderate.”


156 posted on 04/01/2012 8:44:33 AM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: EternalVigilance

Its not just Romney EV.

Ya’ll have thrown DeMint, Rubio, West, Ryan and every other elected conservative Republican that understands what a threat Obama is under your Zealous Bus.

If the most conservative politicians we could possibly elect are telling you that you are wrong, maybe you are wrong.

If that has never occurred to you, I’m correct in my label.


157 posted on 04/01/2012 8:50:38 AM PDT by A.Hun (Common sense is no longer common.)
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To: DManA
Bush did not cut taxes.

Better check your history book. He not only cut taxes, but in doing so, raised federal revenue.

His non defense discretionary spending rose at the same rate as inflation.

We traded him for Obama. Extremely bad move.

You don't want to debate me on GWB's spending...I will blister you and have all the facts to back it up. That GWB's spending was anything like Democrats is just a very big lie trotted out by the far, far right to justify supporting Obama.

158 posted on 04/01/2012 8:57:24 AM PDT by A.Hun (Common sense is no longer common.)
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To: A.Hun

I don’t know why any conservative would care what the folks you list think. They’re Romney Republicans.

But I didn’t throw them under any bus. They disqualified themselves by their own actions.

You see, to some of us, the plumb line is principle, not personalities, or abject fear of Obama.


159 posted on 04/01/2012 8:58:01 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (You can be a Romney Republican or you can be a conservative. You can't be both. Pick one.)
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To: A.Hun
If the most conservative politicians we could possibly elect are telling you that you are wrong, maybe you are wrong.

Or, maybe they're not as conservative as some folks wanted to believe.

160 posted on 04/01/2012 9:00:04 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (You can be a Romney Republican or you can be a conservative. You can't be both. Pick one.)
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