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The race is on for the Humvee's successor
DVICE ^ | March 30, 2012 | Eileen Marable

Posted on 04/01/2012 1:06:16 PM PDT by DogByte6RER

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To: UCANSEE2; Lazamataz

Oh... well that is cool.

heh


21 posted on 04/01/2012 2:02:36 PM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: UCANSEE2

Tell him no, some of the big ones are actually flying buses, others are flying trucks, bombers are flying dump trucks.


22 posted on 04/01/2012 2:05:04 PM PDT by oneolcop (Lead, Follow or Get the Hell Out of the Way!)
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To: DogByte6RER
I know! Let's buy some ugly piece of crap made in China! And let's make it prohibitively expensive, an utter failure for its mission, and full of technological gee-wizardry that breaks down before the first shot is fired!

That'll show our enemies.

23 posted on 04/01/2012 2:15:30 PM PDT by IronJack (=)
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To: DogByte6RER
The way things are going in our country, maybe this will be the replacement. red green makes a hummer
24 posted on 04/01/2012 2:19:04 PM PDT by dznutz
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To: DogByte6RER

The number one question that needs to be asked is where, and under what circumstances is this new vehicle expected to be used?

The second question is even trickier, and takes some explanation. Who is going to be using this new vehicle?

This is, because it has become too expensive to use our top of the line military for cheesy little bush wars, peacekeeping missions, guard duty and other such nonsense in every little rat hole in the world.

America needs to create the equivalent of an offshore French Foreign Legion, a private company, but led by US officers, to do the piddling stuff for a fraction of the price. Strictly for low intensity, extended and international mission operations, costing tens of millions instead of tens or hundreds of billions of dollars.

All their transport and logistics would be provided by the US military, but these contractors would be the ones sitting in some African pestilence for a dozen years, not our soldiers.

Europe did something like this for over a thousand years, hiring mercenary companies to handle their disputes, with the understanding that they would not abuse the local civilians on either side.

By being offshore, there would be no limitation to who such a company could hire, though most would not be US citizens. And, as private contractors working for a private company, though under US auspices, they would not have to obey nonsense and anti-military directives from Washington. If told to do so, they could just quit. Part of their contract.

For the most part, the Pentagon would be very happy with this arrangement, because it would permit them to keep the US military in good condition for the stuff they need to do, not worn down and degraded by doing piddly stuff.


25 posted on 04/01/2012 2:24:16 PM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy ("Be Brave! Fear is just the opposite of Nar!")
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To: DogByte6RER
No word on whether the Humvee will continue to churn out vehicles for civilians...

Wow, Eileen Marable comes across as completely clueless with that statement. Does she understand the difference between a Humvee and a Hummer H1 and a Hummer H2 or H3? It sure doesn't sound like it. The last civilian version of the Hummer H1 came off the assembly lines years ago. The H2 and H3 have nothing in common with the H1 other than the Hummer name, and they certainly have nothing in common with the Humvee.

26 posted on 04/01/2012 2:29:05 PM PDT by Zeppo ("Happy Pony is on - and I'm NOT missing Happy Pony")
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy

My number one question is where can I go buy a military surplus Humvee! I suppose the rules will be such that won’t happen. A guy I know has an old WWII surplus Willies that is GREAT for field work in the mud, etc. (Chilly though with no windows!)


27 posted on 04/01/2012 2:35:04 PM PDT by 21twelve
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I vote Warthog.
28 posted on 04/01/2012 2:43:20 PM PDT by RandallFlagg (Look for the union label, then buy elsewhere.)
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To: DogByte6RER
Gee, I survived the cold war in one of these:

Now , they're looking for something that weighs 7-10 tons? Heck- go back to these:

At times, I think the military can't live without their much vaunted uparmored anything. If you carry moire armor, the bad guys simply build a bigger IED to knock it out.

29 posted on 04/01/2012 2:47:27 PM PDT by Sarajevo (Money cannot buy happiness, but it's more comfortable to cry in a Mercedes than on a bicycle.)
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To: DogByte6RER

I bet what ever they choose, it will be made by government motors and is a POS. These libs hate the military and could care less about survivability.


30 posted on 04/01/2012 2:47:55 PM PDT by JoSixChip (santorum is Mr Rogers without a spine. Check his record, not his rhetoric.)
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To: UCANSEE2

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cDoRmT0iRic&feature=related


31 posted on 04/01/2012 3:07:47 PM PDT by wally_bert (It's sheer elegance in its simplicity! - The Middleman)
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To: wally_bert

THAT was cool!


32 posted on 04/01/2012 3:22:16 PM PDT by RandallFlagg (Look for the union label, then buy elsewhere.)
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To: null and void

In the AF we used to call them “air starts.”


33 posted on 04/01/2012 3:34:52 PM PDT by ops33 (Senior Master Sergeant, USAF (Retired))
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To: IronJack

I’ve been considering when looking at military hardware that the enemy may well be us. Think those 450 million .40 cal HPs and the 175 million .223 rounds are for border patrol....


34 posted on 04/01/2012 4:12:14 PM PDT by mcshot (Friends of A. Breitbart concerned by removal of US flags near the Presidential podium.)
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To: Sarajevo

Why not a vehicle with a modular armour kit so that you can operate with little to no armour when it is not needed and attach the armour when it is needed? That, or go with two vehicles: one that is used for areas/missions that do not require armour out the wazoo and another vehicle that is armoured.


35 posted on 04/01/2012 4:22:54 PM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: RandallFlagg

It’s a good towncar.


36 posted on 04/01/2012 4:27:04 PM PDT by wally_bert (It's sheer elegance in its simplicity! - The Middleman)
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To: DogByte6RER
Been there, did that: The USMC MEU's drive a modified version of the Mercedes-Benz Geländewagen 290, diesel 4x4. The hummer is too wide, too slow, not agile enough. SEALS drive them too, great rig. In Fallujah, the most survivable rig was the John Deere Gator for its speed and agility. Let's hope the contract engineers have a design criteria called: Boogie Index.
37 posted on 04/01/2012 4:32:04 PM PDT by gandalftb (The art of diplomacy says "nice doggie", until you find a bigger rock.)
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To: mcshot
I’ve been considering when looking at military hardware that the enemy may well be us.

I've been wondering the same thing.

38 posted on 04/01/2012 4:55:04 PM PDT by IronJack (=)
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To: UCANSEE2

MRAP variants, not JLTV.


39 posted on 04/01/2012 5:18:34 PM PDT by muleskinner
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To: DogByte6RER

Yeah, but can it “jump like a Willys in four wheel drive”?


40 posted on 04/01/2012 5:19:29 PM PDT by Daniel II (Really??????)
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