Posted on 04/03/2012 2:14:46 AM PDT by Libloather
I agree, let’s just hope that his arrogant speech from a petulant man child is enough to thoroughly piss them off, and in their disgust OVERTURN WICKARD v FILBURN. Abolish 80% of the Federal Government in One Ruling. No that would be HOPE AND CHANGE.
This is obviously a political message to Obama’s liberal base who didnt like Obama-care in the first place but found themselves rallying behind Obama against the Republican House. Once again he plays the same act against the SCOTUS to rally them.
Note his consistent style : He says is confident that the SCOTUS will do the right thing. He said the exact same thing about the Republican House on that deficit deal he blew up. Call it Phony optimism for political effect.
The legal arguments for upholding the mandate and other parts all revolve around court precedents giving congress power to do mostly anything it wants since Roosevelt. Notice Libs don't see precedents as their limitation, like marraige definition 10,000 years as opposite sex.
This is the obama who claims that DOMA is unconstitutional. Arrogance is his name for sure.
If they throw out the individual mandate, but leave the rest in place, it is the equivalent of the Supreme Court having a Line Item Veto, which they ruled as unconstitutional for the President!
2 possibilities:
1) the vote went against him and Obama is desperately trying to flip Kennedy before June
2) the vote went for him and Obama is positioning himself to take credit.
Based on his demeanor and tone of voice I’m going with Option 1.
“If you say this is unconstitutional, then you have to say Social Security and Medicare are also unconstitutional”
I can live with that!
I concur that the timing and intensity of this hand-wringing strongly suggest Kagan has leaked word that Friday’s vote went badly for Obamacare.
Of course, all this ex parte lobbying may well backfire, as it amounts to “piling on” after the president’s attempt to publicly humiliate the Court during the SOTU. The conservative justices on SCOTUS well know the Court’s proper role and presumably are deeply offended by POTUS’s unprecedented politicking for a favored result.
Correct me if I’m wrong, but IIRC, even AlGore had the decency to keep his lips zipped while SCOTUS was deliberately during Bush v. Gore.
IMHO the news was worse than expected.
If this is a 5-4 vote, Obama can spin it as political.
A 7-2 vote, with one of his own voting against him, is much harder to explain away.
I wonder if this sort of thing would be enough to make Kennedy fold like a cheap umbrella...
Somewhere there is an ugly tree with all of its branches snapped off.
Even a 6-3 would show that one of the 4 stooges voted against him. I look for a 5-4. Which way? Who knows how Kennedy will vote?
“...We are seeing the left resort to intimidation, personal attacks, and throwing fits on a daily basis now....”
Just wait till after Ø is defeated in November. We ain’t seen nothing yet!
He screwed the pooch now. I suspect his unholier that everyone ‘tude will cause a shift in the court to 6-3.
That guy (0) is the most obnoxious SOB to ever sit in the WH.
Interesting to note that the more he loses, the more irrational he gets.
I am afraid of what he might do,
“I’m confident the Supreme Court will uphold the law,” Obama said Monday during a Rose Garden press conference. “That’s not just my opinion but also the opinion of legal experts across the political spectrum.”
Translated:
“we have asked the opinion of people from across the spectrum for their opinions. White liberals, black liberals, Hispanic liberals, gay liberals, female liberals, handicapped liberals, old liberals and young ones too. All agree this law should be upheld”
Seriously, he lives in a real life echo chamber.
Obama throws “fag fit” the Bulldyke whispered “You lost” to
him.
i am thinking the same
Agree.... Stay safe !
Maybe you should not count your chickens yet.p> I predict that Romney will not beat Zero, and I further predict that the Zero bill will be upheld, with maybe a ruling against the mandate, which will somehow be passed on to the States.
The reason the bill will stand can be directly attributed to the GOPe.
Just my prediction, hope I am wrong for sure.
I love the smell of tyranny in the morning...smells like oppression.
Not trying to sound like Michelle, but for the first time in my life I am afraid for the safety of the Supreme Court Justices. This President his Commie buddies scare me.
This Motherhugging Kenyan Socialist Muslim Marxist Crack Smoking D**k Sucker (also known as President Barack Obama) knows full well that Judicial Review, which is their precise function, has been the job of the Supreme Court since the country was founded.
Unprecedented???!? This is the use of Hitler's Big Lie premise!!!
Let me give you a feew precedents to the Supreme Court "overturning a law that was passed by a strong majority of a democratically elected Congress"
1) Supreme Court Overturns Campaign Finance Law
And that's just two examples. There are more.
That's the severability issue, and you're right about the implications. It was also noted by the Court that Congress had a severability clause in Obamacare and then specifically threw it out. So it's not likely that it will be acknowledged as acting. Which means when the individual mandate goes, all of Obamacaer goes with it (which would be true financially even with severability, but the Court will just strike the whole thing outright).
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