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N.Y. parents want to ban ice cream trucks
sfgate ^ | Apr 02 at 2:04 pm | Posted By: Amy Graff

Posted on 04/06/2012 12:51:37 PM PDT by dennisw

Mom wanted to be kept anonymous for fear of being ostracized by friends, said there’s a group of parents in Park Slope who are trying to get the trucks banned. But this mom doesn’t agree. “People just need to say no,” “I say no to him all the time, and I feel his wrath. But he needs to hear that no.”

Pushcarts and trucks selling everything from Italian ice to Nestle Drumsticks begin circling the park’s Harmony Playground in the spring. For some parents getting their kids a cone come April is a tradition, but a few members of the Park Slope Parents online group just wish the ice cream trucks would go away. These parents are tired of listening to children cry, scream and throw tantrums when they’re denied a sugary ice cream.

“Along with the first truly beautiful day of the year, my son and I had our first ruined day at the playground,” A member of the group named Sarah wrote. “Two different people came into the actual playground with ice cream/Italian ice push carts. I was able to avoid it for a little while but eventually I left with a crying 4-year-old.”

Mom Sarah Schenck shared : “Nobody wants to be a crank, but one in three kids are going to be obese or diabetic by high school,” she said. “When my kids see other kids get ice cream, they just start begging me. I just don’t think these are the fights we should be having.”

You’re constantly saying, “No!” or “only one candy,” or “just one piece.” I’ve listened to the loud, obnoxious cries of a 4-year-old who’s denied a Popsicle at the park. Just about any child psychologist will tell you that if you ignore your child’s whining and screams, he will eventually

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1 posted on 04/06/2012 12:51:41 PM PDT by dennisw
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To: dennisw

The fact that someone actually reproduced with these people is astonishing.


2 posted on 04/06/2012 12:56:55 PM PDT by VanDeKoik (If case you are wondering, I'm supporting Newt.)
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To: dennisw

When I was a kid the Ice cream man sold psilocybin and acid, in addition to fudgecicles, twin pops, and long johns.


3 posted on 04/06/2012 12:57:30 PM PDT by HerrBlucher
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To: dennisw

as one guy in the biz told me many moons ago, “all I can get to work for me are hardcore unemployables....”


4 posted on 04/06/2012 12:57:54 PM PDT by the invisib1e hand (I think in about 5 - no, 4 - years I'll have had enough.)
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To: dennisw

As I told my kids: “Life is full of disappointments, how you react to them is testament to your character.”

Oh, they didn’t understand me, but the confusion that resulted usually shut them up.


5 posted on 04/06/2012 1:00:09 PM PDT by South Hawthorne (In Memory of my dear Friend Henry Lee II)
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To: dennisw

Kid - Daddy I want Ice Cream!!!!

Dad - No

Whats so hard about that?


6 posted on 04/06/2012 1:00:36 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: dennisw
Our world today is filled with treats and when you’ve got kids everywhere you turn there’s a candy dish or a birthday cake or an ice cream store.

Let's ban those too!!

7 posted on 04/06/2012 1:00:45 PM PDT by randog (Tap into America!)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

Thanks dennisw.


8 posted on 04/06/2012 1:01:16 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (FReepathon 2Q time -- https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: dennisw

I have no problem telling my children, “No, and don’t ask again.” However, I do with our city would ban the obnoxious electronic music, or issue citations under current public-nuisance statutes.


9 posted on 04/06/2012 1:02:25 PM PDT by Tax-chick ("Love means to give absolutely everything." ~ Dominik Cdl. Duka)
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To: VanDeKoik

In my defense, I was lonely, desperate, and drunk.


10 posted on 04/06/2012 1:02:32 PM PDT by lowbridge (Rep. Dingell: "Its taken a long time.....to control the people.")
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To: driftdiver
I just tell my kids that tinkly music is this guy:

11 posted on 04/06/2012 1:02:55 PM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: dennisw

Good old New York. Happiest day I ever lived, was leaving there forever.


12 posted on 04/06/2012 1:04:37 PM PDT by Lazamataz (Shut up and drill.)
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To: dennisw

Perhaps these parents should put their offspring up for adoption since they are unable/unwilling to offer parental guidance and/or discipline.

I’m just sayin’.


13 posted on 04/06/2012 1:05:12 PM PDT by Wordkraft (Remember who the Collaborators are.)
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To: dennisw

First they came for the Happy Meal toys and I said nothing,.....


14 posted on 04/06/2012 1:09:07 PM PDT by 21twelve
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To: Lazamataz

Boston was worse..


15 posted on 04/06/2012 1:13:07 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: dennisw

These parents are tired of listening to children cry, scream and throw tantrums when they’re denied a sugary ice cream.


and the problem is.................(wait for it)......the ice cream truck.


16 posted on 04/06/2012 1:13:14 PM PDT by PeterPrinciple (Lord, save me from some conservatives, they don't understand history any better than liberals.)
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To: HerrBlucher

When I was a kid the Ice cream man sold psilocybin and acid, in addition to fudgecicles, twin pops, and long johns.

long johns , red or white ,two button trap door


17 posted on 04/06/2012 1:14:25 PM PDT by molson209
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To: dennisw

Sigh. Remembering the good old days in Park Slope before it went nuts with yuppies in the mid-80s and got too expensive to live in, with all the snooty new-age new-comers. Geez, been so long, some of these Moms might’ve actually grown up in the neighborhood, even if they know nothing of its history except their property values.


18 posted on 04/06/2012 1:14:34 PM PDT by Tanniker Smith (I didn't know she was a liberal when I married her.)
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To: dennisw

Just ban children.


19 posted on 04/06/2012 1:15:41 PM PDT by Attention Surplus Disorder (The only economic certainty: When it all blows up, Krugman will say we didn't spend enough.)
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To: dennisw

Translation: “ I don’t want to have to dicipline my kid, so I want to wreck everyone else’s fun, and at the same time, kill a piece of Americana “


20 posted on 04/06/2012 1:18:00 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: dennisw

I still remember how mad my Mom was with my Aunt when she showed my sister and I what the noisy truck was for!


21 posted on 04/06/2012 1:18:19 PM PDT by Teflonic
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To: dennisw

BAN IT is always their very first choice, isn’t it? So many teaching moments are lost. Why not tell the child that they can have a treat every 5th visit to the park? Give them a coupon or chit of some sort to represent each park visit and when they have saved up enough they can turn them in for a treat. They learn to save, to be patient, to keep track of the coupons, to look forward to a treat with mom, to follow rules. There are more creative choices than just “NO” or “YES” or “BAN IT”. Any tantrum should initiate an immediate return home and a canceled park visit.


22 posted on 04/06/2012 1:19:44 PM PDT by Anima Mundi
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To: Anima Mundi

Ban or regulate or tax or two out of three.


23 posted on 04/06/2012 1:23:11 PM PDT by morphing libertarian
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To: Tax-chick
However, I do with our city would ban the obnoxious electronic music, or issue citations under current public-nuisance statutes.

I'm with you there.

We have one truck in the neighborhood, and he plays the same tune over and over and over and over and over again all season long. Just as he gets far enough that I can barely hear it, he starts on his way back.

By about July, I'm ready to run out there with a baseball bat and beat his "music" generator into a billion little pieces.

But I'd probably buy an ice cream from him after that. ;)
24 posted on 04/06/2012 1:24:50 PM PDT by chrisser (Starve the Monkeys!)
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To: dennisw; Morgana

These are the bad parents you see on TV who are controlled by the kids as teens.


25 posted on 04/06/2012 1:26:24 PM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: Tanniker Smith

I never did understand Park Slope, with all those stunted little buildings.


26 posted on 04/06/2012 1:26:51 PM PDT by firebrand
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To: dennisw

Give Moochelle enough time and they will only be allowed to sell pickles from the ice cream truck.

(very, very sour dills..)


27 posted on 04/06/2012 1:27:25 PM PDT by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
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To: Anima Mundi

Anyone who has worked in a psychology lab knows you are just strengthening the response with this method.


28 posted on 04/06/2012 1:29:22 PM PDT by firebrand
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To: dennisw

Just had a thought...

I wonder if it’s illegal to sell beer out of a vending truck.

Bet you could make a mint on a hot August Saturday with a truck full of cold brewskis.

Maybe play DLR’s ‘Ice Cream Man’ to let the adults know you’re coming.


29 posted on 04/06/2012 1:30:07 PM PDT by chrisser (Starve the Monkeys!)
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To: molson209

Bet those LongJohns would be extremely popular in San Fransicko....


30 posted on 04/06/2012 1:30:07 PM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: dennisw

I don’t believe this; but if true, I hope the kids rise up.


31 posted on 04/06/2012 1:33:59 PM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: firebrand
You mean like the landmarked brownstones?

Parts of Park Slope are getting the seven-story condo treatment anyway. Say goodbye to your view of the harbor and the Statue of Liberty.

32 posted on 04/06/2012 1:34:10 PM PDT by Tanniker Smith (I didn't know she was a liberal when I married her.)
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To: GeronL

What tune does the, ahem, “ice cream truck” that sells those special long johns play, I wonder?

Anything by The Village People, maybe? Hmm?


33 posted on 04/06/2012 1:35:03 PM PDT by MarineDad (Wherever mosques and JDAM's meet, civilization benefits)
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To: MarineDad

lol.

Good question.

Lots of possibilities.


34 posted on 04/06/2012 1:38:40 PM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: Tanniker Smith

Joke. I actually like the little two- and three-story deformities. I pity them.


35 posted on 04/06/2012 1:39:58 PM PDT by firebrand
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To: chrisser

We have one truck that comes through the neighborhood playing an electronic version of “Three Blind Mice”. Fortunately he drives at about 30 MPH and no one has a chance to get money and catch him. The noise only lasts a couple minutes.


36 posted on 04/06/2012 1:47:40 PM PDT by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink)
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To: HerrBlucher
When I was a kid the Ice cream man sold psilocybin and acid, in addition to fudgecicles, twin pops, and long johns.

SillyCy? Through the years I have read of ice cream guys busted for selling marijuana on the side to the kiddies

37 posted on 04/06/2012 1:48:19 PM PDT by dennisw (A nation of sheep breeds a government of Democrat wolves!)
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To: dennisw

And those kids with their whining and crying at the Toys-R-Us make me want to outlaw toys too.

Is there nothing that government can't do to make our lives better? < /s>

38 posted on 04/06/2012 1:51:56 PM PDT by KarlInOhio (You only have three billion heartbeats in a lifetime.How many does the government claim as its own?)
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To: firebrand

Well use a variable ratio schedule. I have worked in a psychology lab. The object is not to get a child to never want a reward of ice cream. The tantrum is never rewarded. The waiting, saving response is being rewarded.There is consistency because the child knows that there is no possibility of getting the ice cream except at certain set points. It parallels saving up for something which is a good behavior pattern as opposed to you just yell for it and get it right then. In any case, my point is not specifically to do this or that, rather that there are MANY ceative ways to deal with a situation outside of yes, no, and remove the stimulus. As I offered, just take your child home at the first peep, each and every time and the behavior will extinguish. Of course it is always possible that the mom wants to be at the park to socialize more than the child does and that the child would actually RATHER be home playing electronic games. But can’t people modulate and figure out these things, each in the way that works for their situation and family?


39 posted on 04/06/2012 1:54:02 PM PDT by Anima Mundi
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To: R. Scott; chrisser

The one here sometimes plays Christmas songs, from April to October.

I suppose they’re running by the Daylight Saving Time schedule, because it’s here already, showing up after supper as we’re getting the children ready to go to bed. I think we must be the only people who make their children go to bed at a sensible hour.


40 posted on 04/06/2012 2:05:45 PM PDT by Tax-chick ("Love means to give absolutely everything." ~ Dominik Cdl. Duka)
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To: VanDeKoik

Liberals feel like they are entitled to everything too. Can I ban everything they want?


41 posted on 04/06/2012 2:12:47 PM PDT by mykroar (Please be aware any /sarc tag is for the lurkers, not the Freepers.)
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To: dennisw

a good swat on the rear will give the kids something to cry about


42 posted on 04/06/2012 2:34:17 PM PDT by markman46 (engage brain before using keyboard!!!)
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To: dennisw

It is utterly amazing, if a Conservative doesn’t want their kids to have ice cream, they tell them no. If a Liberal doesn’t want their kids to have ice cream, they want it banned for everybody!


43 posted on 04/06/2012 2:43:02 PM PDT by DeweyShootem
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44 posted on 04/06/2012 2:45:03 PM PDT by dsrtsage (One half of all people have below average IQ. In the US the number is 54%)
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To: DeweyShootem; dennisw
It is utterly amazing, if a Conservative doesn’t want their kids to have ice cream, they tell them no. If a Liberal doesn’t want their kids to have ice cream, they want it banned for everybody!

And if a Conservative doesn’t want their kids to have marijuana, they ... ?

45 posted on 04/06/2012 2:47:20 PM PDT by JustSayNoToNannies (A free society's default policy: it's none of government's business.)
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To: freekitty

Occupy Ice Cream Trucks


46 posted on 04/06/2012 4:03:48 PM PDT by HotKat (Politicians are like diapers; they need to be changed often and for the same reason. Mark Twain)
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To: chrisser

We usually had a stock of ice-cream and popsicles in our freezer. One child in our neighborhood was running to the truck and got hit by it. She was a vegetable for many yrs . Her family kept trying to rehab her but she finally died. When I was very very little, Ice-cream novelties came on a bicycle cart with a jingle bell. That was much more fun (getting milk was more fun with the horse-drawn trucks, too).
Just keep them in the parks and out of the neighborhood streets.


47 posted on 04/06/2012 4:07:58 PM PDT by RightLady (Liberty above all)
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To: dennisw

The food police are real and they will be supported and welcomed by this nutcase of a “mom” who cant discipline her kid so she wants to ban everyone’s fun.

Truly a brainwashed sheep, who thinks that ONE ice cream will cause a kid to become diabetic.. after all that’s what she sees on tv.


48 posted on 04/06/2012 4:21:03 PM PDT by eXe (Si vis pacem, para bellum)
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To: Tax-chick
I do with our city would ban the obnoxious electronic music, or issue citations under current public-nuisance statutes.

Some neighbors of ours referred to it as the "Music Truck." That worked for a while. Then the kids saw someone walk away from the music truck with ice cream and the kids knew the truth.

49 posted on 04/06/2012 4:21:41 PM PDT by Qout
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To: the invisib1e hand

What is orange and looks great on a Park Slope stroller mom? A: Fire!


50 posted on 04/06/2012 4:26:19 PM PDT by Clemenza ("History, I believe, furnishes no example of a priest-ridden people maintaining a free civil governm)
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