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U.S. Defines Its Demands for New Round of Talks With Iran (0's Big "Last Chance" Ultimatum)
New York Slimes ^ | 4/7/2012 | DAVID E. SANGER and STEVEN ERLANGER

Posted on 04/08/2012 11:26:19 AM PDT by mojito

The Obama administration and its European allies plan to open new negotiations with Iran by demanding the immediate closing and ultimate dismantling of a recently completed nuclear facility deep under a mountain, according to American and European diplomats.

They are also calling for a halt in the production of uranium fuel that is considered just a few steps from bomb grade, and the shipment of existing stockpiles of that fuel out of the country, the diplomats said.

That negotiating position will be the opening move in what President Obama has called Iran’s “last chance” to resolve its nuclear confrontation with the United Nations and the West diplomatically. The hard-line approach would require the country’s military leadership to give up the Fordo enrichment plant outside the holy city of Qum, and with it a huge investment in the one facility that is most hardened against airstrikes.

While it is unclear whether the allies would accept anything less than closing and disassembling Fordo, government and outside experts say the terms may be especially difficult for Iran’s leaders to accept when they need to appear strong in the face of political infighting.

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Israel; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: iran; nuclearweapons; obama
The WH spinners have been on overdrive this weekend on the Iran front. They must actually be scared that the Israelis are going to pull the trigger and upset Prince Barry's reelection campaign.

The first piece of evidence is this piece in the Slimes, telling how Barry's gonna get real tough with the mullahs this time. Sure. The mullahs will tell Barry to pound sand, and the WH spinners already know this.

Which brings me the second piece of evidence published this weekend in the Compost (notice the nice symmetry - one big scoop for the Slimes and another for the Compost - a sure sign of major spin campaign) and posted earlier on FR but I'll link to it for those who missed it. That story leaked supposed US intelligence that lo! miracle of miracles! the mullahs aren't really trying to build a warhead, or if they are they're a couple of years from being able to accomplish it.

Notice the brilliance of this WH grand strategy: First, Barry looks tough - he's giving those mullahs one last chance and this time he really really means it. Except that the WH knows that the mullahs will give Barry the finger. So what then, Mr. Tough Guy?

Ah! You see! It doesn't really matter! Those darned mullahs aren't anywhere near getting an actual nuke, so we don't really need to do anything!

Now marvel at the cynicism. Marvel at the conviction that the MSM will carry water for this disaster. Stand amazed at how this actually aids Iran and punishes Israel. Wait for the WH sniping at the Israelis in the coming week when these talks fail and they express their dismay and anger. Because there's one thing for sure, the WH isn't going to let a bunch of cranky Israelis spoil all the fun - they've got a campaign to win!

See you at the next 0bama2012 fund raiser!

1 posted on 04/08/2012 11:26:28 AM PDT by mojito
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To: mojito

What happened to Zer0’s “unconditional” talks with Iran?


2 posted on 04/08/2012 11:28:32 AM PDT by Roccus
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To: Roccus
'Last Chance!'

One of many. Who's counting?

3 posted on 04/08/2012 11:30:13 AM PDT by Parmy
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To: mojito
Here's the link to the Compost story I mention above, first posted by intrepid FReeper Siezethecarp:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2869475/posts

4 posted on 04/08/2012 11:31:45 AM PDT by mojito
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To: Parmy

Brand New Last Chance!!!! ......coming in May


5 posted on 04/08/2012 11:34:10 AM PDT by woofie (It takes three villages and a forest of woodland creatures to raise a child in Obamaville)
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To: mojito

Speak loudly and carry no stick at all.

Never bring a stick to a nuclear weapons fight.


6 posted on 04/08/2012 11:42:01 AM PDT by Maceman (Liberals' only problem with American slavery is that the slaves were privately owned.)
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To: mojito

Obama is an idiot.


7 posted on 04/08/2012 11:44:17 AM PDT by Jim Robinson (Rebellion is not just brewing, rebellion is here!!)
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To: mojito
A “community organizer” like Osama should recognize stalling tactics when he sees them.God knows that he's used them often enough during his sorry existence.And yet he would have us believe that he doesn't understand that the 9th Century pig fornicating knuckledraggers ruling Iran are using such tactics in order to GET A NUCLEAR BOMB!
8 posted on 04/08/2012 11:49:24 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Jimmy Carter Is No Longer The Worst President To Have Served In My Lifetime.)
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To: Jim Robinson
Obama is an idiot.

Gotta disagree,Jim.He's a willing co-conspirator.If *only* it were true that he was nothing more than an idiot.

9 posted on 04/08/2012 11:51:46 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Jimmy Carter Is No Longer The Worst President To Have Served In My Lifetime.)
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To: Gay State Conservative

Anyone who doesn’t believe in freedom is an idiot.


10 posted on 04/08/2012 11:54:31 AM PDT by Jim Robinson (Rebellion is not just brewing, rebellion is here!!)
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To: Roccus

“What happened to Zer0’s “unconditional” talks with Iran?”

He didn’t have any pre-conditions, but Iran did.
Condition #1. You don’t talk about nuclear weapons development.
Condition #2. You don’t talk about nuclear weapons development.


11 posted on 04/08/2012 11:56:38 AM PDT by tumblindice (our new, happy lives)
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To: Gay State Conservative
And yet he would have us believe that he doesn't understand that the 9th Century pig fornicating knuckledraggers ruling Iran are using such tactics in order to GET A NUCLEAR BOMB!

...for peaceful purposes.

12 posted on 04/08/2012 11:57:55 AM PDT by Roccus
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To: tumblindice
He didn’t have any pre-conditions, but Iran did.

Oh...I see. Since that worked out so well for the rag heads, he's decided to employ those tactics himself...with no intent on backing them up.

This should go well.

13 posted on 04/08/2012 12:03:45 PM PDT by Roccus
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To: Gay State Conservative
Gotta disagree,Jim.He's a willing co-conspirator.If *only* it were true that he was nothing more than an idiot.

Obama is a good example of someone who is clever but not wise.

14 posted on 04/08/2012 12:12:49 PM PDT by oldbrowser (They are Marxists, don't call them democrats)
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Obama is a good example of someone who is a traitor but not exposed.

Fixed....


15 posted on 04/08/2012 12:22:26 PM PDT by Hogblog
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I posted on another thread that if Israel sees a nuke in Iran’s future, Israel might give them one.


16 posted on 04/08/2012 12:50:36 PM PDT by Terry Mross ("It happened. And we let it happen." - Peter Griffin, Family Guy)
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To: Roccus
Iran’s “last chance” to resolve its nuclear confrontation with the United Nations and the West diplomatically.

I suppose little bammy will also take a"hard-line approach" by telling Iran this is their "last chance" to give back that RQ-170 drone while they are at it, darn it!

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17 posted on 04/08/2012 2:13:17 PM PDT by TLI ( ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA)
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To: mojito
Except that the WH knows that the mullahs will give Barry the finger.

No, they'll give Zippy the Hawaiian Birth certificate symbol.

18 posted on 04/08/2012 2:23:19 PM PDT by BerryDingle (I know how to deal with communists, I still wear their scars on my back from Hollywood-Ronald Reagan)
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To: mojito

What happened to our DEMAND they return our drone/


19 posted on 04/08/2012 2:27:32 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: mojito

Seeing as how the Mullahs have already publically
rejected Obama’s opening gambit what does he have
left? Bupkis.


20 posted on 04/08/2012 2:27:39 PM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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Obamah is giving Iran a backhanded way to continue their nuclear weapon ambition by saying "civil use" is acceptable to the USA.

Imanutjob just LOL at Little Bari.

All while Israel tries to keep Obamah from feeding Iran with leaked intel.

21 posted on 04/08/2012 3:05:55 PM PDT by TexasCajun
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To: Terry Mross
I posted on another thread that if Israel sees a nuke in Iran’s future, Israel might give them one.

I used to believe that fairy tale too, but no more. Bibi will not launch a preemptive strike, and you can take that to the bank.

22 posted on 04/08/2012 6:10:24 PM PDT by itsahoot (Tag lines are a waste of bandwidth, as are most of my comments.)
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To: itsahoot

Do you think Iran will strike Israel once they get the nuke? If so, do you think Bibi will sit back and let them hit first knowing Israel will be destroyed? I just can’t believe he’d allow that to happen.


23 posted on 04/09/2012 12:18:11 PM PDT by Terry Mross ("It happened. And we let it happen." - Peter Griffin, Family Guy)
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To: Terry Mross
I just can’t believe he’d allow that to happen.

He wouldn’t do it on purpose but it could happen because he waffles, or lets Zero hold him back. Truth is I lay this at the feet of GW, no way he did not know who this guy was. He had the power of the CIA, SS, FBI and we are led to believe that no one knew?

Not Hardly.

24 posted on 04/09/2012 2:35:59 PM PDT by itsahoot (Tag lines are a waste of bandwidth, as are most of my comments.)
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