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To: achilles2000
Government schools also get a lot more money when they have to educate the “disabled”.

They get the money, but the don't deliver an effective product. My oldest and youngest are classic ADD cases. The oldest also had heart problems that required 4 open heart surgeries to fix. He was so hyper that he was kicked out of kindergarten the first day...after they located him 3 blocks from the school campus. His IEP meetings produced "plans" that resulted in slightly better than "general population" efforts. There was always the pressure to "mainstream" even though the "mainstream" teachers weren't ready to handle it. The youngest was doing just "OK" in San Diego schools. We moved to Idaho and the wheels came off. The teachers were completely unprepared. I have an 8th grade dropout on my hands.

I mention the classic ADD diagnosis because they are both bright. The oldest has pursued a degree in geology and is better read than most literature grad students. He has a mind like a steel trap, but his "executive functioning" just isn't up to the level required to make good progress through his college curriculum. The youngest cut his first CD with a band as the drummer at age 15. Three weeks of time in the studio. He plays electric and acoustic guitar proficiently. He has been in the top 5 world wide in "guitar hero". When not playing or writing music, his amusements include writing new elements into first person graphical "shoot up" style games in Lua or Ruby. Very bright. I wish I could get him to settle down long enough to knock out his GED.

77 posted on 04/08/2012 10:32:19 PM PDT by Myrddin
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To: Myrddin
I mention the classic ADD diagnosis because they are both bright. The oldest has pursued a degree in geology and is better read than most literature grad students. He has a mind like a steel trap, but his "executive functioning" just isn't up to the level required to make good progress through his college curriculum. The youngest cut his first CD with a band as the drummer at age 15. Three weeks of time in the studio. He plays electric and acoustic guitar proficiently. He has been in the top 5 world wide in "guitar hero". When not playing or writing music, his amusements include writing new elements into first person graphical "shoot up" style games in Lua or Ruby. Very bright. I wish I could get him to settle down long enough to knock out his GED.

Asperger's very often goes hand in hand with ADD/ADHD. When they're not interested, they're not interested and it's very, very difficult to get them to focus or pay attention. When they're interested, they hit a hyper-focus function and you can't drag them away. They're research for 18 hrs straight, forgetting to eat and resenting bathroom breaks - and then they're DONE with the topic and simply walk away from it.

85 posted on 04/09/2012 7:09:42 AM PDT by SCalGal (Friends don't let friends donate to H$U$ or PETA.)
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To: Myrddin

I think someone has confused genius with ADD. Extremely gifted people aren’t “normal” and cannot be expected to behave or perform like “normal”. The problem is, what do you do? All I can say is that they should be nudged to the degree possible toward something that will allow their genius to be come productive.

Why not have the 8th grader try his hand at some CLEP tests? It might appeal to him as a challenge (although he probably would not have much trouble with it).


86 posted on 04/09/2012 8:29:34 AM PDT by achilles2000 ("I'll agree to save the whales as long as we can deport the liberals")
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