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To: Flotsam_Jetsome
It's hard to believe with all the resources available to Obama that he would come up with such an amateur creation as he did with this birth certificate:

1. Back in 1961 people of color were called ‘Negroes’. So how can the Obama birth certificate state he is ‘African-American’ when the term wasn't even used at that time?

2. The birth certificate that the White House released lists Obama’s birth as August 4, 1961. It also lists Barack Hussein Obama as his father. No big deal, right? At the time of Obama’s birth, it also shows that his father is age 25 years old and that Obama’s father was born in “Kenya, East Africa”. This wouldn't seem like anything of concern, except the fact that Kenya did not even exist until 1963, two whole years after Obama’s birth and 27 years after his father's birth. How could Obama’s father have been born in a country that did not yet exist? Up and until Kenya was formed in 1963, it was known as the “British East Africa Protectorate”. Wikipedia about this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kenya_Colony

3. On the birth certificate released by the White House, the listed place of birth is “Kapi’olani Maternity & Gynecological Hospital”. This cannot be, because the hospital(s) in question in 1961 were called “KauiKeolani Children's Hospital” and “Kapi’olani Maternity Home”, respectively. The name did not change to Kapi’olani Maternity & Gynecological Hospital until 1978, when these two hospitals merged. How can this particular name of the hospital be on a birth certificate dated 1961 if this name had not yet been applied to it until 1978?

Obama either doesn't know or he doesn't care that we aren't all as shockingly ignorant as his Democrat constituency.

20 posted on 04/09/2012 4:43:43 AM PDT by DJ Taylor (Once again our country is at war, and once again the Democrats have sided with our enemy.)
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To: DJ Taylor
Kenya did not even exist until 1963
The name did not change to Kapi’olani Maternity & Gynecological Hospital until 1978

Please take you disinformationalist BULLSH*T elsewhere. Stamps were being issued that referred to Kenya in 1935.

And the Nordyke twins birth certificates list the same hospital you claim did not exist in 1961.
Get lost.

ML/NJ

27 posted on 04/09/2012 6:11:44 AM PDT by ml/nj
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To: DJ Taylor
So how can the Obama birth certificate state he is ‘African-American’ when the term wasn't even used at that time?

It doesn't say that. In fact birth certificates never list the race of the child, only the parents.

29 posted on 04/09/2012 6:56:31 AM PDT by wideminded
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To: DJ Taylor
1. Back in 1961 people of color were called ‘Negroes’. So how can the Obama birth certificate state he is ‘African-American’ when the term wasn't even used at that time?

WRONG!!!

The image that Zer0 put on the web said that the FATHER was AFRICAN!!!

BUH-BYE


31 posted on 04/09/2012 7:00:46 AM PDT by Roccus
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To: DJ Taylor
It's hard to believe with all the resources available to Obama that he would come up with such an amateur creation as he did with this birth certificate:

It is my opinion that Obama did not create it. I believe it to be the creation of the Department of Health in Hawaii, and that is why it is so amateurish.

1. Back in 1961 people of color were called ‘Negroes’. So how can the Obama birth certificate state he is ‘African-American’ when the term wasn't even used at that time?

I regard this as evidence that the original record created in 1961 was NOT created in a hospital where it was likely they would have used a normal classification of race. This point reinforces the idea that his original birth certificate is based on a "born at home" affidavit filled out by his grandmother, and she put "African" down because she didn't know any better.

2. The birth certificate that the White House released lists Obama’s birth as August 4, 1961. It also lists Barack Hussein Obama as his father. No big deal, right? At the time of Obama’s birth, it also shows that his father is age 25 years old and that Obama’s father was born in “Kenya, East Africa”. This wouldn't seem like anything of concern, except the fact that Kenya did not even exist until 1963, two whole years after Obama’s birth and 27 years after his father's birth.

This point is completely wrong. Yes, Kenya did exist prior to 1961. The entire region had been called "Kenya" for over a hundred years or more. Someone has even posted a Kenyan postage stamp from the 1950s. I couldn't find that stamp, but I did find this from 1957.

How could Obama’s father have been born in a country that did not yet exist? Up and until Kenya was formed in 1963, it was known as the “British East Africa Protectorate”. Wikipedia about this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kenya_Colony

The local people called themselves "Kenyans". They didn't care what was the Official British name for themselves. Since the place of Father's birth was being told by a native Kenyan, I am not going to worry about what the British thought it should be called. It is completely irrelevant. Apart from that, according to the stamps on this web page, even the British referred to it as Kenya.

3. On the birth certificate released by the White House, the listed place of birth is “Kapi’olani Maternity & Gynecological Hospital”. This cannot be, because the hospital(s) in question in 1961 were called “KauiKeolani Children's Hospital” and “Kapi’olani Maternity Home”, respectively. The name did not change to Kapi’olani Maternity & Gynecological Hospital until 1978, when these two hospitals merged. How can this particular name of the hospital be on a birth certificate dated 1961 if this name had not yet been applied to it until 1978?

This assertion is complete nonsense. The Nordyke's 1961 birth certificates also says "Kapiolani Maternity & Gynecological Hospital. "

That is a FACT. Arguing that it shouldn't be so is ignoring reality.

Obama either doesn't know or he doesn't care that we aren't all as shockingly ignorant as his Democrat constituency.

Maybe not ignorant, but being misinformed is a worse condition. As Reagan said: "The trouble with our opponents is not that they are ignorant... it's that they know so much which isn't so. "

33 posted on 04/09/2012 7:40:53 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp (Partus Sequitur Patrem)
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