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State Attorney Decides NO Grand Jury In Martin Case
BayNews 9 ^ | 9 April 2012 | Staff

Posted on 04/09/2012 9:00:31 AM PDT by rarestia

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TOPICS: Breaking News; Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: florida; georgezimmerman; grandjury; trayvon; trayvonmartin; zimmerman
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1 posted on 04/09/2012 9:00:38 AM PDT by rarestia
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To: rarestia

Article JUST posted:

http://baynews9.com/content/news/baynews9/news/article.html/content/news/articles/cfn/2012/4/9/trayvon_martin_grand


2 posted on 04/09/2012 9:01:34 AM PDT by rarestia (It's time to water the Tree of Liberty.)
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To: rarestia

Interesting.


3 posted on 04/09/2012 9:01:40 AM PDT by b4its2late (Patience is not a virtue, it is a waste of time.)
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To: rarestia

Lock and load.


4 posted on 04/09/2012 9:02:03 AM PDT by unkus (Silence Is Consent)
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To: rarestia

Let the riots begin!


5 posted on 04/09/2012 9:02:30 AM PDT by grobdriver
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To: rarestia

Just doing what one should is sometimes an act of bravery.


6 posted on 04/09/2012 9:02:48 AM PDT by mrsmith (Dumb sluts: Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat Party!)
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To: rarestia

Doesn’t mean much of anything (said the former Prosecutor) WE sometimes used them and sometimes didn’t. More a personal matter of preference than anything else.


7 posted on 04/09/2012 9:05:13 AM PDT by RIghtwardHo
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To: rarestia

Will the white part in the WH have something to say, again?

The white part that is keeping the blacks down and angry while
looking like the black part is with them?


8 posted on 04/09/2012 9:05:31 AM PDT by TribalPrincess2U (Anyone not wanting an ID or purple thumb to vote isn't worthy of voting privilege.)
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To: rarestia

This doesn’t mean he won’t be charged.

Florida only requires a grand jury for first degree murder cases.


9 posted on 04/09/2012 9:05:43 AM PDT by Dan Nunn (Support the NRA!)
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To: rarestia

Don’t consider this good news, a Grand Jury could issue a “no bill” and end this farce. The prosecutor could charge him without a grand jury.


10 posted on 04/09/2012 9:05:43 AM PDT by Arthurio
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To: rarestia

This was just reported on “Rush” radio. I wonder if Rush will talk about it?

http://www.rushradio1200.com/main.html


11 posted on 04/09/2012 9:05:53 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: mrsmith

Does not mean charges are not forthcoming.

Wait. Watch. The witch hunt may still be on.


12 posted on 04/09/2012 9:06:11 AM PDT by bolobaby
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To: grobdriver

This means nothing.


13 posted on 04/09/2012 9:06:21 AM PDT by snarkytart (http://www.freerepubli224%2C1)
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To: rarestia

CNN-Martin attorney demanding the arrest of Zimmerman.


14 posted on 04/09/2012 9:07:06 AM PDT by unkus (Silence Is Consent)
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To: bolobaby

Quite frankly, I think it means she is MORE likely to charge him.


15 posted on 04/09/2012 9:07:29 AM PDT by RIghtwardHo
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To: Arthurio

“The prosecutor could charge him without a grand jury.”

And I’m getting that sinking feeling that that will be the end result.


16 posted on 04/09/2012 9:07:47 AM PDT by freeangel ( (free speech is only good until someone else doesn't like it)
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To: Arthurio

Exactly. This could be a way for this wench to press charges knowing an anonymous grand jury would likely not find a reason to indict.


17 posted on 04/09/2012 9:08:26 AM PDT by snarkytart (http://www.freerepubli224%2C1)
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To: rarestia

Keep your eyes on the southern horizon for signs of rising smoke...


18 posted on 04/09/2012 9:09:07 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: rarestia

Why do we even need to involve the justice system or the courts? After all, we have Al Sharpton and Roseanne Barf to determine someone’s guilt. These people were all there on the night in question and know all the facts! /sarc


19 posted on 04/09/2012 9:09:34 AM PDT by JaguarXKE
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To: RIghtwardHo

Curious...did you ever decide to not use a Grand Jury, and then decide not to charge?

It seems with all the publicity, if the prosecutor wanted ‘cover’ to not charge, she would have let the Grand Jury convene...on the hope they said no.

...makes me think she might file charges?


20 posted on 04/09/2012 9:10:03 AM PDT by lacrew (Mr. Soetoro, we regret to inform you that your race card is over the credit limit.)
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To: RIghtwardHo

Exactly. The prosecutor doesn’t want the cross hairs. If she wasn’t going to charge, she’d punt to the grand jury to absolve herself of the responsibility.

She realizes she’s SAFE if she charges. The mob won’t attack her.

So, bet on charges pending.


21 posted on 04/09/2012 9:10:11 AM PDT by bolobaby
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To: rarestia

I thought she said this about two weeks ago that a grand jury wasn’t going to be needed.


22 posted on 04/09/2012 9:10:11 AM PDT by Darren McCarty (Time for brokered convention)
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To: RIghtwardHo

Of course that’s what it means, and it doesn’t matter if there is little to no evidence to convict, there will be a conviction because of the fear and pressure the jury will be under to do so. This woman knows it too.


23 posted on 04/09/2012 9:10:18 AM PDT by snarkytart (http://www.freerepubli224%2C1)
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To: snarkytart
This could be a way for this wench to press charges

She's a tough-on-crime Republican (source). Hopefully she won't look at this case as a way to raise her national profile.

24 posted on 04/09/2012 9:10:37 AM PDT by Dan Nunn (Support the NRA!)
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To: unkus

If she was NOT gonna charge him, she’d use the GJ for political cover. She’s gonna charge him.


25 posted on 04/09/2012 9:10:43 AM PDT by Doctor 2Brains (If the government were Paris Hilton, it could not score a free drink in a bar full of lonely sailors)
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To: rarestia
Dozens of college students spent their Easter weekend marching 40 miles from Daytona Beach to Sanford over three days for Trayvon Martin.

I wonder how many are being paid to show up?

26 posted on 04/09/2012 9:11:57 AM PDT by GOPJ (Hoodies - because you can't kill a security camera for snitchin' - - freeper tacticalogic)
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To: bolobaby

True, sometimes the world is much worse than I’m inclined to think it is.


27 posted on 04/09/2012 9:12:04 AM PDT by mrsmith (Dumb sluts: Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat Party!)
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To: Doctor 2Brains

Yep. I agree.


28 posted on 04/09/2012 9:12:36 AM PDT by KansasGirl
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To: RIghtwardHo
-- I think it means she is MORE likely to charge him. --

I don't think it means anything more than she sees this case as being within the spectrum of "usual business" for her office. The evidence is what will drive her decision to charge or not, same as usual. What's unusual in this case is her take on the adequacy of the Sanford PD investigation. That sort of inquiry is not part of the usual business.

29 posted on 04/09/2012 9:13:12 AM PDT by Cboldt
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To: rarestia

I can’t imagine why..........It was obviously a racist hate crime against an unarmed little black child who only wanted some skittles and an ice tea by a white Hispanic who was stalking his victim because he was walking while black...............


30 posted on 04/09/2012 9:13:57 AM PDT by Red Badger (Think logically. Act normally.................)
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To: Doctor 2Brains
If she was NOT gonna charge him, she’d use the GJ for political cover. She’s gonna charge him.

Check out this link:

Shorstein fired Corey in 2006 from the office she had worked in for the previous 25 years. He said the firing stemmed from a complaint from an intern who claimed Corey was unprofessional and profane. He asked Corey to respond to a professor who had brought the complaint to his attention, but Corey instead sent a letter criticizing the professor for communicating the complaint, according to Shorstein.

It kind of made me smile that she had the backbone to stand up to a whiney college professor who complained about her. I don't think that political cover means much to her. That being said, I'd say the odds are still more likely that she'll press charges than not. But I won't say it's a foregone conclusion.

31 posted on 04/09/2012 9:15:11 AM PDT by Dan Nunn (Support the NRA!)
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To: bolobaby; RIghtwardHo; snarkytart; lacrew
Why not we just wait for the final decision before blasting this one way or the other.

In all these cases, there's a lot of evidence that doesn't get released to the public. The opinions here, as well as those by Al/Jesse and the media are driven by speculation, not facts.

Is there probable cause to charge for something or not?

32 posted on 04/09/2012 9:15:35 AM PDT by Darren McCarty (Time for brokered convention)
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To: Darren McCarty

I’m just making an educated guess.


33 posted on 04/09/2012 9:16:33 AM PDT by bolobaby
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To: rarestia

Well, they broke it on Monday....riots more likely if this came out Friday afternoon.


34 posted on 04/09/2012 9:17:13 AM PDT by ErnBatavia (A conservative, a liberal and a moderate walked into a bar; barkeep said "Hi Mitt")
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To: rarestia

If they were going to charge Zimmerman with anything they would already have done it. You can’t charge people with a crime if the evidence points elsewhere like self defense.


35 posted on 04/09/2012 9:19:17 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: freeangel
“The prosecutor could charge him without a grand jury.” And I’m getting that sinking feeling that that will be the end result.

Prosecutor isn't going to show her hand prematurely via the grand jury where the prosecutor is mainly the one presenting the evidence, some of which would not be allowed in a jury trial..... if I understand it correctly.....rather may very well risk the evidence be heard even if it means a judge would throw it out or dimiss it to the jury....it would be heard to some extent.

36 posted on 04/09/2012 9:19:34 AM PDT by caww
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To: Dan Nunn

By all means charge him and add the Florida justice system to the rest of the lawsuits his legal team is doubtless preparing.

At the end of all this nonsense this guy is going to clean up, big time.


37 posted on 04/09/2012 9:22:19 AM PDT by onedoug
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To: RIghtwardHo

Information v. indictment here in Texas. Prosecutor may be wanting to keep a firmer handle on how the investigation is directed.


38 posted on 04/09/2012 9:22:29 AM PDT by jagusafr ("Write in Palin and prepare for war...")
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To: ErnBatavia
Well, they broke it on Monday....riots more likely if this came out Friday afternoon.

IIRC, Florida grand juries convene once a month. April 10th was long ago mentioned in news articles as that day - thus the day before we are told that it won't be presented to the grand jury tomorrow.

39 posted on 04/09/2012 9:22:54 AM PDT by Dan Nunn (Support the NRA!)
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To: All; rarestia
Clicked thru a couple layers and found this:

Sanford Police Dept. closed as students rally

The Sanford Police Dept. will be closed to the public Monday because of students rallying outside the headquarters.
...
The Sanford Police Department says that since the students are occupying the space in front of the department, they are blocking the main entrance. This will not affect emergency calls, but it will make it difficult for people who need to do non-emergency work at the department.

The city says it will accomodate those people at City Hall. A police representative will be at the city clerk's office.

40 posted on 04/09/2012 9:24:07 AM PDT by tomkat ( .. shall NOT be abridged)
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To: RIghtwardHo

It means she knows she can’t get an indictment.


41 posted on 04/09/2012 9:26:04 AM PDT by 1L
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To: rarestia
So where is the big day of rage that was scheduled for today?

I guess it's a little early for them yet. It's only just after noon here on the east coast. They'll be up soon.

42 posted on 04/09/2012 9:26:18 AM PDT by Semper911 (When you want to rob Peter to pay Paul, you'll always have the support of Paul.)
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To: Buckeye McFrog
Northeast Florida is already on fire with real fires.

We can smell the smoke in Saint Marys, GA.

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43 posted on 04/09/2012 9:27:36 AM PDT by LonePalm (Commander and Chef)
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To: Arthurio

Spot on. If she had sent this to a GJ and they voted no true bill there’d be less of a chance of trouble since the decision was made by 23 private citizens. If she decides not to prosecute the crap,accusations riots etc., hits her and the governor. Therefore i expect Zimmerman’s lawyers are right now preparing for trial. This will then be decided by 12 jurors, and hopefully their makeup will prevent any repeat of the Rodney King/OJ horror.


44 posted on 04/09/2012 9:33:12 AM PDT by xkaydet65
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To: RIghtwardHo
In this case, just because there was no justification to go before a Grand Jury for a warrant only means Whitey is going for a coverup. Just ask JJ, Al and Lou.

Apparently, this DA doesn't want to move to either Tallahassee or DC.

45 posted on 04/09/2012 9:33:49 AM PDT by jonascord (Ask any Democrat. He's firmly convinced that he's brighter than you.)
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To: caww

It would seem counter-intuitive to not use a GJ. The fifth amendment clearly states that a captial crime can be charged only on presentment or indictment of a GJ. I understand prelim hearings etc for felony charges, but I would think the Special Prosecutor would want the top cover of a jury of his peers to make the call on an indictment on felony charges. If she uses her own office, regardless of how it goes down, it will be hers to eat and sleep with.

If a GJ no-bills, then it was society that made the call, not a single person who can be held accountable (GJ cannot be held accoutnable for their verdicts as I understand it).

If she does not charge, then she is the evil person to the illogical massess of libtards calling for a lynching (rather intereting, isn’t it?), if she charges when evidence points to self-defense, then she will wear that unjust coat of kowtowing to the PC crap as well.

I’d send it to a GJ and let due process take it’s course, if there was ProbCause evidence, if not, I’d man up and tell it like I saw it.

Damn the torpedoes!


46 posted on 04/09/2012 9:34:16 AM PDT by Manly Warrior (US ARMY (Ret), "No Free Lunches for the Dogs of War" (my spelling is generally korrect!))
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To: GOPJ

“dozens” huh? Sounds serious.
lol


47 posted on 04/09/2012 9:35:27 AM PDT by snarkytart (http://www.freerepubli224%2C1)
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To: Semper911
So where is the big day of rage that was scheduled for today?

It's tough to be a rager these days. Has to be at least 3 or 4 PM before raging - need time to wake up at 1 or 2 and then an hour or so to get some Skittles and Iced Tea in the system to build up a good rage.

48 posted on 04/09/2012 9:36:26 AM PDT by commish (Freedom tastes sweetest to those who have fought to preserve it.)
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To: rarestia

The article implies that she will bring charges without a grand jury investigation.


49 posted on 04/09/2012 9:36:40 AM PDT by Brilliant
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To: Dan Nunn
Zimmerman said the shooting was in self-defense. Sanford police didn't arrest Zimmerman based on its investigation...

From the link you provided...

50 posted on 04/09/2012 9:36:58 AM PDT by GOPJ (Hoodies - because you can't kill a security camera for snitchin' - - freeper tacticalogic)
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