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Maternal obesity, diabetes associated with autism, other developmental disorders
EurekAlert! ^ | 9-Apr-2012

Posted on 04/09/2012 1:17:00 PM PDT by neverdem

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Maternal Metabolic Conditions and Risk for Autism and Other Neurodevelopmental
1 posted on 04/09/2012 1:17:06 PM PDT by neverdem
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To: Incorrigible

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2 posted on 04/09/2012 1:19:37 PM PDT by neverdem (Xin loi minh oi)
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To: neverdem

These statistical studies may or may not imply causation.

Let’s postulate that obesity is a marker for lower-class women. There might be many other factors in lower-class households that would also leave to autism. Poor nutrition, excess TV watching, lack of parental attention, etc.


3 posted on 04/09/2012 1:22:11 PM PDT by proxy_user
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To: neverdem

This isn’t going to be well received.


4 posted on 04/09/2012 1:22:24 PM PDT by dangerdoc (see post #6)
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To: neverdem

Much of the recent “autism” is a welfare scam designed to circumvent the five year welfare limit and the end of “cash-for-kids” (by which additional children translate into additional cash). Autism itself is a very real illness; the “autism spectrum” BS is riddled with fraud. I’ve been around children with the alledged condition, and they act like any “only child” who has parents who won’t discipline them. They are very “normal”, and I suspect their parents are fraudsters.

When I heard on the radio that nearly 1 in 50 boys born today has “autism, or is on the autism spectrum” I knew I was vindicated in my skepticism.


5 posted on 04/09/2012 1:23:23 PM PDT by kearnyirish2
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To: proxy_user
Let’s postulate that obesity is a marker for lower-class women. There might be many other factors in lower-class households that would also leave to autism. Poor nutrition,excess TV watching, lack of parental attention, etc.

Perhaps, but my son is severely dyslexic and has suffered from language based developmental delays that are so extreme that he didn't even talk until he was about five years old. His mother (my ex), was not by any measure obese, but she did have gestational diabetes that required hospitalization. She is also very bright with near perfect SATs, and BS, MS, and MBA degrees.

6 posted on 04/09/2012 1:37:43 PM PDT by Labyrinthos
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To: neverdem

Oh, no! Is everything caused by fat folks? How about sun spots? I have news for these people; the way doctors browbeat pregnant women into dieting, what if it is the restricted caloric intake that causes problems? I saw a study recently that said if women are dieting during the time they conceive, their offspring will be more likely to be obese and develop diabetes in the future. The body interprets dieting as starvation and it doesn’t take to it kindly.

Man, I guess the worst crime one can commit in the 21st century is to be overweight by society’s standards. People would rather be with a slim serial killer than a chubby nice person.


7 posted on 04/09/2012 1:39:35 PM PDT by Pining_4_TX ( The state is the great fiction by which everybody seeks to live at the expense of everybody else. ~)
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re: Let’s postulate that obesity is a marker for lower-class women.<> First thing I thought. Weight is quickly becoming a class marker, as those with education and advantages find ways to control weight that lower-econ levels do not have or pursue. AAMOF, I think this is part of the hostility towards overweight women that is out of proportion to either kindness or reason.
8 posted on 04/09/2012 1:39:44 PM PDT by Mamzelle
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To: Pining_4_TX
The other issue is that BMI has its limitations. BMI only considers height and weight. That does not factor in bone density and muscle mass. It's possible to have an athletic woman who has more muscle mass and denser bones with a BMI suggesting "overweight" or even "obese" while a woman with more actual body fat has a lower BMI.

If they want to get serious about this type of study, then they need to look at actual body fat percentage, not BMI.

IMO, BMI is overrated and over-used and will go away in the future.

9 posted on 04/09/2012 1:49:17 PM PDT by susannah59
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To: neverdem

A ratio of 1.5 to one doesn’t begin to explain whatever has been going on with autism over the past half century or so, autism existed in 1960 but it was hellishly rare.


10 posted on 04/09/2012 2:06:59 PM PDT by varmintman
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To: neverdem
Remember the days when autism was blamed on the "refrigerator mother"?

Now they're blaming "mother too often in the refrigerator"

Plus ca change....

11 posted on 04/09/2012 2:12:13 PM PDT by lightman (Adjutorium nostrum (+) in nomine Domini--nevertheless, Vote Santorum!)
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Oh, no! Is everything caused by fat folks?

Well yes many things are.

Coronary heart disease Type 2 diabetes Cancers (endometrial, breast, and colon) Hypertension (high blood pressure) Dyslipidemia (for example, high total cholesterol or high levels of triglycerides) Stroke Liver and Gallbladder disease Sleep apnea and respiratory problems Osteoarthritis (a degeneration of cartilage and its underlying bone within a joint) Gynecological problems (abnormal menses, infertility) Knee and joint problems Gastric reflux, many forms of psoriasis

12 posted on 04/09/2012 2:15:58 PM PDT by trailhkr1 (All you need to know about Zimmerman, innocent = riots, manslaughter = riots, guilty = riots)
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To: Labyrinthos

But you don’t understand statistical risk.

A statistical correlation does NOT mean a one-to-one correspondence.

Know what I mean?


13 posted on 04/09/2012 2:20:40 PM PDT by fishtank (The denial of original sin is the root of liberalism.)
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To: kearnyirish2

I’m dubious of your conclusion. Do you have any expertise in the field?


14 posted on 04/09/2012 2:30:34 PM PDT by RavenATB ("Destroy the family and you destroy the country!" ~Vladimir Lenin)
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To: neverdem

Once again I’m trying to let people know that most cases of autism are actually lyme disease. Lyme can be passed down from mother to baby. And guess what a big symptom of lyme is.......weight gain!!

So to the scientists, maybe the same bacteria that causes weight gain in the mother also causes the autism symptoms in the baby.

I don’t understand why all the new research showing 90% of kids with autism tested postive with the lyme bacteria isn’t being given wide publicity.

Many children’s symptoms improved dramatically after starting antibiotics. Lyme disease and autism have the same symptoms.


15 posted on 04/09/2012 2:37:21 PM PDT by vickixxxx
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I think obesity is more likely to be a precursor or indicator for diabetes more than social class.

My SIL is an MD, not obese (actually tall and slender) but she had gestational diabetes with her first child and he is autistic.


16 posted on 04/09/2012 3:34:22 PM PDT by Valpal1
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To: varmintman
A ratio of 1.5 to one doesn’t begin to explain whatever has been going on with autism over the past half century or so, autism existed in 1960 but it was hellishly rare.

That is what I thought too, I read several paragraphs and thought, "did she take into account that all the kids had vaccinations?"

I know they came out and said vaccinations were not in mercury and were safe but still, we didn't have these problems at this level back when I was a kid.

Misdiagnoses? fraud? that might explain alot, but not all.

17 posted on 04/09/2012 3:41:56 PM PDT by The Bat Lady (BO borrows 1.5 Billion from China to give to the Muslim brotherhood? Where is Congress?)
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18 posted on 04/09/2012 3:46:36 PM PDT by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: RavenATB

“Do you have any expertise in the field?”

Nope, just my lying eyes; any “expert” in these field that believes nearly 1 in 50 male children born today are on the “autism spectrum” is part of the scam, and any lay person that believes it is directly linked to a scamming recipient. Society has to come to terms with the fact that numerous children are raised watching 5+ hours of television daily (”ADD” is the result of children having attention spans the length of a television commercial...literally); false/fabricated illnesses help non-parents dispel their guilt, and make some money at the same time (they receive Social Security for the “afflicted”, with no 5 year limit or even real proof of illness).


19 posted on 04/09/2012 3:53:39 PM PDT by kearnyirish2
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To: vickixxxx

“Lyme disease and autism have the same symptoms.”

I hadn’t heard that before; I think Lyme disease is more nerve-related in terms of joints, while autism is directly linked to the brain end of the nervous system. There is overlap, but I don’t think the symptoms are very similar.


20 posted on 04/09/2012 4:01:10 PM PDT by kearnyirish2
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