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Posted on 04/10/2012 12:29:15 PM PDT by Jim Robinson
To hell with the GOP-e. Barring a miracle, they got their big government, unconstitutional mandate loving, socialist abortionist Obama-lite RINO on the ballot, they can now get him elected.
We are the resistance!!
Shove him down our throats today, we shove him up your donkeys in November!!
I can see November from my house!!
The key now is to focus on the Senate races. If we take control of the Senate away from the Democrats it will make a big difference.
I think you missed my “I stand with you” comment to Jim at the end.
You don’t speak ill of the dead.
I am glad I voted for Santorum, dispite what many here said.
All of this is specualation. I only know one thing. Obama is a radical communist Muslim and it would be very difficult to find someone half as damaging as he is. I find it hard to believe that 4 years of idiot Romney does a fraction the permanent damage to our Republic as the lame-duck administration of Obama, now with political shackles lifted.
I can’t speak for him but perhaps this will help.
I believe in right and wrong. I believe that Romney, by his actions, promotes things that are every bit as anti-American as Obama. I base that on his ACTUAL RECORD.
I would have to say to myself “Norm, everything you ever stood for, every thing you believe is wrong. None of it matters.”
I would have to, now lets be honest here, ACCEPT, by way of my vote, that Abortion, gay marriage, socialism, the complete welfare state, anti-gun beliefs and the rest are ACCEPTABLE, because my vote for a man who PROMOTES those ideals and has a RECORD OF DOING SO ...says that I do.
People can make excuses all they want and justify their cowardace till the cows come home. That’s their choice. I will not abandon everything I believe in, nor will I stand one day before God and try convincing him I didn’t really help send him all those dead babies.
You can. That’s your choice.
Hope this helps you understand us ‘extremist types’.
Oh my gosh Onyx! Just getting here as spent the entire day with my grandson at the Dinasour Museum. Santorum out?!!!!
I said he might do so if he saw Pa. wasn’t going well for him...have not heard his speech yet , did he say why?
Well this does change the equation....Newt now needs to up his game plane and take this thing over, at the very least all the way to convention....
Need to read all the threads to see what what now...but this is good news....though I do feel sad for the Santorum voters....very...it’s not easy when your guy steps aside. Never easy...
Well ...I am we struck!!!!
Thanks for this thread. Just now seeing it! As you know, I completely agree. NUTS!
I have said it dozens of times and made no friends for doing so, but it’s true. Many of the ‘conservatives’ on FR are anything but. When it comes time to display the conservative ideals they claim loudly to enspouse, they duck, run, and make excuses for why behaving like a liberal, taking liberal positions et all, doesn’t “REALLY” mean they are a liberal. st like the Dems did RE “Patriotism” when they backed the terrorists over GWB.
JR has guts. He’s no coward like many of the sudden romneybots and he’s informed. He stands for what he believes in and is willing to put FR on the line to do it. That’s the kind of American many of these liberals wish they could be but are too afraid of the ‘evil Obama’ to actually be.
Another pro Obama Freeper. rat...It's the new conservatism!
rat...It's the new conservatism!
To quote John Belushi...”did we surrender when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?”
That’s what this feels like. Two small slivers of Mr. Santorum’s speech (coupled with a little wisdom of Rush) still give a little hope...
Santorum SUSPENDED his campaign. Parsing here...bit NOT the same a “I quit.”
Santorum did NOT mention Romney by name. No endorsement, or let’s get behind him...nope.
And I view those points with an explanation Rush gave today. Apparently Santorum, in Rush’s POV, wanted some sort of “teaming” with Newt—but Gingrich has made this personal—so no deals, but also NO releasing of delegates.
So...does Newt now “do better” in remaining primaries? Will Santorum still pick up delegates in remaining primaries? There is, visible by this thread, a strong antiRomney sentiment...so IF Romney doesn’t campaign (and doesn’t scorch the earth) will the other two (and Paul) continue to pick up delegates (votes AGAINST Myth) and Obamney arrives at the convenvention less than 1144? How and why would Obamney run ads if he “has won?”
I don’t think he is such a sure thing as much as I did when he was destroying Santorum and Gingrich.
Another Freeper for the greater of 2 evils. rat...It's the new conservatism.
Jim is an inspiration. I also look to the Founders. They would NOT have done the easy thing. They did not. It was all or nothing. The same thing that the Boss is trying to encourage. Had the Founders done what some of these posters are espousing, there never would have been a “United States of America”. Defending our country from creeping socialism isn’t easy. As we have said, those posters are ruled by fear and not principles.
Yep, I’m sticking with Newt as well...certainly not Romney...take it to convention and let the chips fall where they may. At the very least we can say we fought the whole way and did not give up.....and at most we could very well win over Romney!!!!!!!!
On to Convention!!!!
My biggest prayer is Romney will drop out!!!!...I know I’m dreaming but nobody thought Santorum would either. So anything can happen.
If Milt Rominy (rhymes with that corn product, hominy) gets the pubby nomination, We The People are going to have to elect enough pubbies to run the Senate and House, so that when little barry bastard is sworn in, again illicitly by the pirate Roberts, the impeachment and removal of the commie scum can proceed over the LDS inc Reid efforts to protect the lying scumbag.
I’m voting for that Jim Thompson fellow.
imho, the script/outline is fairly well set . . .
however, I do believe that we can delay things by prayer
and probably lessen the devastations in some locales by unified prayer on the part of all authentic Christians across denominational lines.
The world will again see NEW TESTEMENT CHRISTIANITY WITH INTEREST . . . i.e. MORE ADDED ON . . . GREATER WORKS THAN THESE . . .
but there will be a price to pay . . . and luke Warm pseudo-Christianity won’t even understand the price, much less be willing to pay it.
We truly wrestle not against flesh and blood and ignorant demonized satanic politicos of all labels . . . but against [spiritual] principalities in high places. . .
Let us pull down such strongholds as led of Holy Spirit through prayer and fasting.
Folks do not seem to know about how much prayer was critical in 1776 and every war since then—regardless of the evil-doers who started globalist wars later . . . or their motives.
There are mysteries aplenty but it is still awesome that ALMIGHTY CREATOR GOD HAS set it up such that such flawed creatures saved by the Priceless Blood of His Son can influence history by our humble prayers.
I think one of the major eternal—probably THE MAJOR eternal benefit of FR will turn out to have been Jim’s insistence that Prayer threads have a place and prayer has a place in the main business of FR.
It will likely be INCREASINGLY so in the increasingly critical months to come.
AS The Scripture says . . .
30How should one chase a thousand, and two put ten thousand to flight, except their Rock had sold them, and the LORD had shut them up?
31For their rock is not as our Rock, even our enemies themselves being judges.
I haven’t even voted yet! Everybody I backed has disappeared. Cain. Newt(somewhat). Santorum. I’m gladly back to Newt but will he be around by the CA primaries? Crap, I hope so.
“Another Freeper for the greater of 2 evils. rat...It’s the new conservatism. “
As opposed to what? voting for one lib over another? One sound bite over another? Critical thought...you lackZ it!
Tell Mitt we said no.
How did Newt make this personal?
Newt has been very gracious to Santorum, even today.
It was Santorum who crowed last month that he was proud of the role he played to dump Newt in 1999.
Santorum knew he was getting into a very contested race when he started. If anyone saw the duplicity and fakeness of Romney up close and personal, it was Santorum.
Right now, there is a new political reality:
It is Newt or it is Romney.
All I see on this thread is the wailing and the gnashing of teeth. But what is the plan?
We have one last conservative in the race.
It you won’t support Newt, you will get Romney.
So, what is it going to be Freepers?
I knew that I could count on you!!
All of the voices in my head agree with you, Jim!
NO CCOMPROMISE! NO RETREAT! NO SURRENDER!
All of the voices in my head agree with you, Jim!
NO COMPROMISE! NO RETREAT! NO SURRENDER!
That's exactly what the liberals are saying....and all those who can't seem to wrap around their head this isn't just a Presidential race.....it's a serious and blood thristy war between what is good and what is not for our country.....
You know fully well that Romney is a Liberal Democrate and you cannot rely on anything he's been spewing out there. He'll set the Scotus with Liberal Judges just as Obama will.....Romney has nothing to loose....he knows you know he can't be trusted and doesn't care. He only wants your vote so he can have his long sought after position.
It's not about country for Romney...it's about Romney period. ..and he'll so whatever his superiors want in order to remain President if he gets it.
No I will not vote for the slimeball....and you can put the blame on Obama winning, if he does square on the lap of Romney, the Media and the GOP...which is where it belongs.
Further Romney has not been able to to unite us...what makes you think he'll get congress to unite under anything we want....he'll fold in a heartbeat...he's spineless and has no manner of ability to "war" when it needs it.
Go ahead and vote GOP or nothing. Rove, Mittens, Boehner and the rest of the RINOs appreciate your support.
But as for conservatives like me? We will NOT support a party that has betrayed us.
So taking a hike is certainly intelligent.
stupid....except that I already sent my check in, I'd just call it a day...
Then there's no harm in me voting for him, is there?
I'm not going to sit on my hands and hand another term to Obama.
Hope things are better.
I’m with the OP all the way.
Sticking to your Principles and saying NO when everyone is telling to say yes is Smart.
No submission is not preferable to extinction.
So stick to your so called principal and help re-elect Obama, certainly sounds like a genius move to me, NOT
No Rush said its personal between Newt and Romney. NOT Santorum.
If you read my post...that’s basically what I said—there is NO REASONfor Romney to keep on AGAINST Gingrich ( or the suspended Santorum) so by virtue of that—will apathy w/Romney coupled with those WHO WILL VOTE AGAINST HIM equal NOT ENOUGH delegates (some still going to both the true believers in Santorum, Gingrich& Paul) mean NO 1144?
“Further Romney has not been able to...”
Can you imagine him trying to take a stand on anything?
The video showing him pro/con everything he talks about should be enough that any person with the ability to reason knows he’s every bit the disaster BO is. Right from his own mouth. and yet the rationalizations flow like water on this thread.
The man has no center, no sense of right and wrong. His own people call him an etch a sketch. Anyone stupid enough to vote for someone like that DESERVES what they get. The rest of us don’t, but they do. And they will be the loudest screamers IF he manages to win and takes us down the same road as BO. Someone called them Vischy Freepers. That’s the damn truth.
We either save our country or elect a Rino liberal to manage it's decay. THAT'S what Romney will do. He is Obama lite.
If a conservative had been nominated and lost against Obama, Republican liberals would have said “It’s the fault of conservatives for nominating a conservative!”
Now, with Romney being the most liberal Republican nominee ever, when he loses to Obama Republican liberals will say “It’s the fault of conservatives for not supporting Romney!”
You can vote for whomever you like. But don't expect to be cheered for voting out of fear.
I agree. I will do nothing to enable four more years of Obama. We must get the correct House and Senate in office in any case...if we do that and elect Romney, things will turn around because the new Congress will enure that Romney is given the legislation to fulfill his promises.
Whatever else Romney is, he is clearly a politician and this is the chance for the pinnacle of his career. He is not an ideolog and he will not throw away a chance at eight years by betraying those who get him into office and ensure he makes good on his promises. To do do would be political suicide.
So, as much as I had hoped another would win...and there’s still an outside chance for that...I’ll vote for Romney over the clear Marxist Obama
If Romney does go forward and win the nomination now, let’s see who his VP pick is too.
Romney was elected in a DNC dominated state, Mass. It is really more MassCare than RomneyCare IMHO. He had to run center...and I believe the plan would have been even worse without him there. Study his vetoes sometime...it tells you something about him too. Most of them were over ridden by an 85% controlled state house.
I do not like his changes on critical issues any more than anyone else...but there is something there a proper house and senate can use that would be orders of magnitude better than Obams.
This is a decision that every person must make and it is very personal and varied...but I honestly believe I must oppose Obama, even with Romney, for the sake of my eight grandkids and their future.
Why surrender to Romney now? Why not fight for an actual conservative candidate? That’s what I don’t understand.
Let’s say that someone walks into a restaurant and pays $100 for the best things on the menu.
Instead, the chef brings them a plate of rancid garbage.
The person says “Thank you for bringing me garbage instead of what I ordered! I will pay extra for it!”
The person will then never get anything good but instead will get garbage every time.
In this election year, the role of the chef is being played by the Republican Establishment.
The role of the rancid garbage is being played by Mitt Romney.
And conservatives are told that they have to be in the role of the person accepting the rancid garbage instead getting what they deserve.
I agree 100%. If they force Romney down our throats, he won’t win anyway. The GOP elites are as much the enemy as the Dems. At least the last few years have made this crystal clear.
I am so on edge lately...
I am voting to get Zero out of office. I will not let him get a second term and will not skip voting or go third party just because others are upset their candidates dropped out. I wanted Perry, then Newt.
I voted for Perot years ago and still regret it.
I distrust Mittens and regret that many souls will be lost as Mormonism uses him to lure in more gullible people, but there’s no comparison to how much I despise Zero.
I know what you mean. We are circling the bowl and some want to flush it again and elect Romney. Even though he cannot win against Obama. They share too many accomplishments.
Yes, it’s true, and I’m sorry, I didn’t hear Santorum’s speech. I have been very busy today.
Newt Gingrich is true to his word. He is in all the way to the convention. Vote Newt. Of course, the same media give him no chance, as always. So what.
He won his home state and he didn’t quit. His campaign is in debt. There’s always fund raisers to retire debt. Ask Hillary about that.
Be well, dearest caww.
We gave the GOP the House in 2010. They sidelined all the freshmen TEA party people, co-opted a few and did what exactly with their historic landslide mandate.
They did NOTHING but further enable Obama.
You really think that they won’t do the same again? Really? Bohner is in command. He’s a coward’s coward. He has done nothing but capitulate and ‘compromise’. That’s what will happen without someone to force him to do his job. IE a Conservative president. That’s his record as Speaker. His fights with the dems are token at best and ALWAYS lead to him giving away the store.
He has never stood up to his golf buddy.
And the senate? With Lord Lindsey in power? With HIS record of anti-conservative votes and actions? HE’s gonna listen to newb senators?
Sorry Jeff, I do not see it. If you can show me where any of the above is wrong or based on anything but fact and logical conclusions, I’ll gladly admit my error. Yes, we much! put as many of them in as we can. Absolutely. But they are not the ones making committee appts, moving bills ect.
That’s Grahmm/Bohener territory.
Preach it brother, preach it!
I for one have had enough of the goofballs who (right here on FR by the way) keep telling me it is going to be MY fault that Obama is re-elected if I don’t vote for Romney.
Baloney, Romney just got lessons from Obama on how you ignore and bypass the checks and balances....also ignoring any outcry from congress.
So no....Romney will do what he wants...and that is bringing on Obamacare under his name....giving gays what they shout for, and leaving the decision of abortion to woman.
Defy the Living God if you want but I wouldn't advise it.