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Rick Santorum Was The Most Conservative, Authentic and Resilient Candidate of 2012
Telegraph(UK) ^ | April 10, 2012

Posted on 04/10/2012 5:26:18 PM PDT by Steelfish

Rick Santorum Was The Most Conservative, Authentic and Resilient Candidate of 2012.

Tim Stanley April 10th

Rick Santorum's struggle touched a chord with many working-class Americans

Rick Santorum said goodbye on Tuesday afternoon. It was a classic performance from the Rickster – heartfelt, overlong, a little bitter. He pledged to go on fighting for the little people but acknowledged that the race was over, brought to a close by his daughter’s illness and poor polling. To most people this means that it’s now between Romney and Obama. The only minority report on that will come from Newt Gingrich.

You can imagine him happily switching the TV off after Santorum’s speech and saying, “Callista, it’s in the bag!” [“Plop!” goes the ice into the glass as Callista fixes herself another medicinal Martini. It’s going to be a long three months...]

Love him or loathe him, Santorum was the most interesting candidate of this season. Against insurmountable odds (including a false count in Iowa) he won 11 states and more counties that all the other candidates combined. His candidacy marked the entry of mainstream conservative Catholicism into the Republican Party at a national level.

He’s the first serious Catholic Republican contender since Pat Buchanan in 1996 – and a lot more serious than that (sorry Pat!). At the root of all his politics was a strict natural law view of the world – the concept that nature is an estate of God and it contains within it the template of moral order.

He wasn’t half as obsessed with sex as the interviewers who constantly asked him about it, and if they’d dug deeper they’d discovered that it was part of an over-arching philosophy of rights and responsibilities that is at the heart of the Western Catholic tradition. If John Paul II .....

(Excerpt) Read more at blogs.telegraph.co.uk ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: catholics; newt; newtgingrich; newtisnottheenemy; ricksantorum; santorum; stupidarticle
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1 posted on 04/10/2012 5:26:22 PM PDT by Steelfish
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To: Steelfish
*Sigh*. I'm gonna hafta get used to the idea of sleepwalking through the upcoming elections.

As imperfect a conservative as he may have been, at least Santorum had a shot.

2 posted on 04/10/2012 5:29:15 PM PDT by skeeter
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To: Steelfish
Rick Santorum Was The Most Conservative

Yeah, maybe. But he bailed out. So what's your point?

3 posted on 04/10/2012 5:29:49 PM PDT by humblegunner
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To: humblegunner

I understand the policy here against blog pimping, but thought this site allowed articles.


4 posted on 04/10/2012 5:31:50 PM PDT by skeeter
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To: Steelfish

He’s dead, Jim.


5 posted on 04/10/2012 5:34:10 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Over half of U.S. murders are of black people, and 90% of them are committed by other black people.)
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To: humblegunner
Gonna be a whole lot of moping for the next couple days.
6 posted on 04/10/2012 5:34:24 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: Steelfish
Rick Santorum Was The Most Conservative, Authentic and Resilient Candidate of 2012.

Yeah, well Romney is the richest.

7 posted on 04/10/2012 5:36:30 PM PDT by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: skeeter

I wasn’t bitching about pimping.

My point was that it’s stupid to be lauding Santorum. He’s out.

Cogitating about how he’s the best candidate is stupid now.

He’s gone. Toast. An Ex-Candidate. Pining for the Fjords.


8 posted on 04/10/2012 5:37:08 PM PDT by humblegunner
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To: Steelfish

I still believe Sarah leads Rick in all 3 categories but, yes, she was not a “candidate”.


9 posted on 04/10/2012 5:37:54 PM PDT by shalom aleichem
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To: Steelfish

The meanings of political labels shift over time, but if we are using the term “conservative” in its historical context, Santorum is one of the most conservative candidates that we have seen since at least Buchanan (I hope I’m not forgetting anyone obvious,) and probably will see for a long time.


10 posted on 04/10/2012 5:40:38 PM PDT by WPaCon
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To: skeeter

C’mon, surely you’ve been around here long enough to know it’s the hummelgummer’s thing to sit back and take potshots at any and everything.


11 posted on 04/10/2012 5:41:08 PM PDT by ngat
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To: humblegunner

Well thats useful, too. Thanks.


12 posted on 04/10/2012 5:42:36 PM PDT by skeeter
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To: hinckley buzzard

Couple of days? I was planning on somewhat longer than that.


13 posted on 04/10/2012 5:43:57 PM PDT by skeeter
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To: Steelfish

Where are all the threads by anti-Santorum FReepers who’ve been urging him to quit for the past months? They should be doing the happy dance tonight.


14 posted on 04/10/2012 5:45:09 PM PDT by bigbob
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To: Steelfish

Resilient? Newt’s still in it to win it and Rick dropped out. Doesn’t sound like he’s so resilient to me.

Interesting? Not more interesting than Newt, that’s for sure, who is someone from whom you can learn something new about American history, political history and innovative policy every time you listen to him.

“Mainstream conservative Catholicism” is an oxymoron to anyone who actually knows Catholics.


15 posted on 04/10/2012 5:45:33 PM PDT by JediJones (From the makers of Romney, Bloomberg/Schwarzenegger 2016. Because the GOP can never go too far left.)
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To: Steelfish

Blog pimping aside,...I never supported ANY of the GOP candidates. Yet the wizards of smart in Washington have rammed Romney DOWN MY THROAT. I can’t vote for him. Yes, I know Obama is a communist and if elected we are finished. Frankly, the way the world is going, I believe we are ALL finished. Perhaps if ODouchBag is re-elected it will ignite a revolution. If the left can’t be vanquished electorally, well then.............................................


16 posted on 04/10/2012 5:48:18 PM PDT by Doc Savage ("I've shot people I like a lot more,...for a lot less!" Raylan Givins)
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To: Steelfish
As an often-stated Santorum supporter, I'm sad to see Rick go, but I'm glad he did it early.

Never in the history of politics (unless you are a Marxist, then Obama is an exception) has there ever been a perfect candidate.

One can view Romney optimistically (I do as far as national defense and some things economic); or one can support Romney out of fear (Obama seems to be aching for some "flexibility" to do a scorched-earth, full-Venezuela on our fine country, and Mitt is relatively not as destructive) and Mitt has a sense of country that Mister Obama does not. (If you want to say that Mitt has a sense of Mitt, okay, no argument, so be it.)

I am Mitt Romney's newest, and most ardent, and least likely supporter.

Contrary opinion invited, my FRiends, we need this (genial and gracious) discussion.

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18 posted on 04/10/2012 5:50:24 PM PDT by Seaplaner (Never give in. Never give in. Never...except to convictions of honour and good sense. W. Churchill)
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To: WPaCon
The meanings of political labels shift over time, but if we are using the term “conservative” in its historical context, Santorum is one of the most conservative candidates that we have seen since at least Buchanan (I hope I’m not forgetting anyone obvious,)

Yes, you forgot someone obvious who is far and away more conservative. If you can pass more conservative legislation under a Democrat president than the other guy could under a Republican president, that definitely makes you more conservative.


19 posted on 04/10/2012 5:51:46 PM PDT by JediJones (From the makers of Romney, Bloomberg/Schwarzenegger 2016. Because the GOP can never go too far left.)
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To: Seaplaner
Contrary opinion invited, my FRiends, we need this (genial and gracious) discussion.

No one needs to have a genial and gracious discussion with a traitor to the conservative cause, which anyone who supports an economic and cultural leftist like Governor Romney over his more conservative opponent Newt Gingrich is. Get lost.

20 posted on 04/10/2012 5:55:08 PM PDT by JediJones (From the makers of Romney, Bloomberg/Schwarzenegger 2016. Because the GOP can never go too far left.)
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To: bigbob

I am. Maybe Newt can still pull this out.


21 posted on 04/10/2012 5:55:25 PM PDT by PhiloBedo (You gotta roll with the punches and get with what's real.)
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To: JediJones
"Resilient? Newt’s still in it to win it and Rick dropped out. Doesn’t sound like he’s so resilient to me."

That was my exact thought.

22 posted on 04/10/2012 5:55:41 PM PDT by JustaDumbBlonde (Don't wish doom on your enemies ... plan it.)
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To: JediJones
Gingrich, lifetime ACU rating 90% - Santorum, lifetime ACU rating 88%. And Santorum was representing a swing state.

More conservative, but hardly 'far and away' more conservative.

Too bad we all couldn't get behind one of these guys.

23 posted on 04/10/2012 5:56:17 PM PDT by skeeter
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To: Seaplaner
Last I checked there are two people still left in the race. One is a bonafide conservative with a record to prove it, the other is a liberal also with a record to prove it. You are supporting the liberal why?
24 posted on 04/10/2012 5:58:32 PM PDT by Durus (You can avoid reality, but you cannot avoid the consequences of avoiding reality. Ayn Rand)
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To: Steelfish

Fred Thompson Was The Most Conservative, Authentic and Resilient Candidate of 2008. How’d that work out?


25 posted on 04/10/2012 5:58:48 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (Ich habe keinen Konig aber Gott)
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To: humblegunner

Thanks for proving my point.

Now, could you just get on with taking some shots at, say, Newt? Romney? Paul?


26 posted on 04/10/2012 6:01:36 PM PDT by ngat
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To: Steelfish
Robert Costa at National Review is right to suggest that part of his appeal to working-class voters was his refusal to give up

Seems a rather odd thing to say today, doesn't it?

27 posted on 04/10/2012 6:07:28 PM PDT by iowamark
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To: JediJones

Gingrich is more accomplished and talented but not more conservative.

If the media weren’t so dumb I bet they could have asked Santorum many more gotcha questions than just the one about contraception, because he is far to the right of what Americans are comfortable with. As his comments on Kennedy may indicate, I doubt he believes in separation of church and state. He’s more like an old-fashioned Torie or ancien regime supporter than any candidate in recent memory, and those are the true right-wing extremists, not Nazis and fascists.


28 posted on 04/10/2012 6:08:32 PM PDT by WPaCon
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To: WPaCon

“The meanings of political labels shift over time, but if we are using the term “conservative” in its historical context, Santorum is one of the most conservative candidates that we have seen since at least Buchanan (I hope I’m not forgetting anyone obvious,) and probably will see for a long time.”

Even freepers thought he was too conservative for them.

It will now be a competition between Obama and Romney as to who will mandate the most free birth control pills and gay rights.


29 posted on 04/10/2012 6:10:23 PM PDT by ari-freedom
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Save it. It’s been a delusional fiasco.


30 posted on 04/10/2012 6:11:06 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Newt/Sarah 2012)
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To: ngat

Now, could you just get on with taking some shots at, say, Newt? Romney? Paul?

Sure. But that doesn't get you off the hook for trying to talk about me behind my back.

That makes you a coward and a weasel and you'll just have to deal with that.

And I'll be helping you now.

Enjoy your prize.

31 posted on 04/10/2012 6:12:35 PM PDT by humblegunner
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To: Durus
Yes, of course, Newt is more conservative, generally.

He is also somewhat "flexible" (please recall the Pelosi/couch/global warmist lecture).

That said, on balance I like Newt, but my inner voice tells me that it's not in the cards for the good Speaker who (to his indelible credit, wowed us with the Contract With America, and some history-making debates.) His Fox interview told us that he was pessimistic about his future in the primary race. (He's backtracked, but he didn't need to).

We are on the same side, my FRiend, and I understand and support your loyalty to Newt.

32 posted on 04/10/2012 6:16:08 PM PDT by Seaplaner (Never give in. Never give in. Never...except to convictions of honour and good sense. W. Churchill)
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To: ari-freedom
Even freepers thought he was too conservative for them.

You're right.

The attacks on Santorum on this site were especially obnoxious, because those criticizing him from left had the audacity to claim that they were the conservatives and that Santorum was the liberal. His critics would have been much less intellectually dishonest if they admitted that he was too conservative for them and that they were attacking him from the left.

33 posted on 04/10/2012 6:17:02 PM PDT by WPaCon
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To: humblegunner

That was purdy funny.

I do apologize for not pinging you when I had something nice to say about you. I thought you would take the description of your style as a compliment.


34 posted on 04/10/2012 6:18:54 PM PDT by ngat
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To: Steelfish

Prayers for Rick and Karen Santorum and their family.


35 posted on 04/10/2012 6:20:04 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Steelfish

No he wasn’t.


36 posted on 04/10/2012 6:22:21 PM PDT by MNJohnnie (Giving more money to DC to fix the Debt is like giving free drugs to addicts think it will cure them)
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To: humblegunner

Our worst fears are now realized,that POS Romney will be the nominee.
There are times when I wonder why we even bother to try.


37 posted on 04/10/2012 6:22:53 PM PDT by Farmer Dean (stop worrying about what they want to do to you,start thinking about what you want to do to them)
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To: WPaCon

No mainstream definition of “conservatism” includes eliminating the establishment clause of the Constitution.

Most of the attacks on Rick’s record here were based on his big-spending ways under Bush, his backing of unions, his endorsements of Specter and Romney, etc.


38 posted on 04/10/2012 6:23:12 PM PDT by JediJones (From the makers of Romney, Bloomberg/Schwarzenegger 2016. Because the GOP can never go too far left.)
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To: skeeter

“Too bad we all couldn’t get behind one of these guys.”

It’s not too late. But if we do, the conservative would likely be Goldwatered by the establishment.


39 posted on 04/10/2012 6:23:43 PM PDT by ngat
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To: humblegunner
Oh knock it off, you cantankrous old turd. You aren't bullying anyone.

You might have credibility around here if you for once had something meaningful to contribute.

40 posted on 04/10/2012 6:24:16 PM PDT by skeeter
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To: JediJones
JJ writes...No one needs to have a genial and gracious discussion with a traitor to the conservative cause, which anyone who supports an economic and cultural leftist like Governor Romney over his more conservative opponent Newt Gingrich is. Get lost.

We are on the same side, my FRiend. I supported Santorum because I believed he was a more conservative candidate who could win.

Could Mister Gingrich win the election if nominated? Possibly, and if he were the party nominee, I'm 100% behind him. However, from my vantage, it's not there for Newt.

Romney a "traitor"? That is going too far. Mister Romney is a politician, (and that implies nothing nice), but not a traitor.

As of today, Romney is our party's likely nominee.

My hopeful expectation is that as President, he'll govern more conservatively that most believed.

My biggest worry? A third party spoiler. I cant' believe that anything could be as destructive to our fine Country as a second-term (apparent) muslim/Marxist in the WH

.

41 posted on 04/10/2012 6:29:19 PM PDT by Seaplaner (Never give in. Never give in. Never...except to convictions of honour and good sense. W. Churchill)
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To: JediJones
No mainstream definition of “conservatism” includes eliminating the establishment clause of the Constitution.

That's why I referred to definitions of "conservatism" varying depending on the time and place. For much of history, opposition to separation of church and state, laicite, and secularism were part of the "conservative" agenda.

IMO, his backing of Specter and Romney were pragmatic decisions which don't reflect his true ideals.

I'm glad you brought up his "big spending ways" and his "backing of unions." Although I think much of that is overblown, Santorum doesn't seem to be particularly enthusiastic about laissez-faire economics. For much of its history, conservatism wasn't particularly supportive of lissez-faire economics, either.

42 posted on 04/10/2012 6:39:22 PM PDT by WPaCon
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To: WPaCon
Right wing extremists are like monarchists?!

You sound like you are off your meds...or need meds.

43 posted on 04/10/2012 7:08:45 PM PDT by Durus (You can avoid reality, but you cannot avoid the consequences of avoiding reality. Ayn Rand)
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To: Durus
Right wing extremists are like monarchists?!

They are often are.

You sound like you are off your meds...or need meds.

You sound like you know very little about history and politics. Do you know where the terms "right" and "left" originated?

44 posted on 04/10/2012 7:23:56 PM PDT by WPaCon
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To: Steelfish

I’m going to suspend judgment on why RS suspended his campaign, until such time as he endorses either Romney or Gingrich in the PA primary. If he does neither, I’ll take that as a Romney endorsement.


45 posted on 04/10/2012 7:58:43 PM PDT by Lady Lucky (Romney, the pink slime of presidential politics.)
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To: Durus
Last I checked there are two people still left in the race. One is a bonafide conservative with a record to prove it, the other is a liberal also with a record to prove it. You are supporting the liberal why?

Bears repeating. If only it could be whittled down to a tagline!

46 posted on 04/10/2012 8:15:00 PM PDT by Lady Lucky (Romney, the pink slime of presidential politics.)
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To: JediJones

Newt’s campaign is both moronic and quixotic at this stage after saying that Romney will be the likely nominee


47 posted on 04/10/2012 8:30:14 PM PDT by Steelfish (ui)
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To: Steelfish
Newt’s Romney's general election campaign is both moronic and quixotic at this stage after saying that Romney will be the likely nominee he isn't concerned about the "very poor" and he enjoys being able to fire people and his views are progressive and he's not trying to return to Reagan/Bush and his advisor said they will push the reset switch on him like an Etch-A-Sketch after the primaries...
48 posted on 04/10/2012 8:38:11 PM PDT by JediJones (From the makers of Romney, Bloomberg/Schwarzenegger 2016. Because the GOP can never go too far left.)
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To: Lady Lucky

This fits:

One proven conservative and one proven liberal remain standing in the primary. Where do YOU stand?


49 posted on 04/10/2012 8:42:19 PM PDT by JediJones (From the makers of Romney, Bloomberg/Schwarzenegger 2016. Because the GOP can never go too far left.)
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To: JediJones

And Rick’s record was gone over time and time again by his supporters. However, the same arguments were brought up against Santorum anyway.

On the other hand, how often was it stated that in 1994, Newt was in support of federally paid abortions for “poor women” in cases of rape, incest, or “to protect” the life of the mother?

How many times was this link posted?

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/1995/04/10/MN66900.DTL

If you’re going to debate records, then be prepared to debate the records of ALL the candidates.


50 posted on 04/10/2012 10:08:47 PM PDT by Lauren BaRecall (I declare for Santorum.)
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