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To: pawpawrick

The was a legal argument that COULD be made for 1st but not a good one. This is the most severe thing they have a hope of winning a conviction for


2 posted on 04/11/2012 3:21:49 PM PDT by Lex Gabba
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To: Lex Gabba

Really? I can’t get to murder and barely get to manslaughter.

Maybe negligent homicide but, that would take some work as well.

A charge of Murder goes to “intent” and I don’t see it.


23 posted on 04/11/2012 3:31:25 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: Lex Gabba

You didn’t last long Zot.


29 posted on 04/11/2012 3:34:38 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: Lex Gabba
The was a legal argument that COULD be made for 1st but not a good one. This is the most severe thing they have a hope of winning a conviction for...

I was under the impression that it took an indictment by a grand jury to charge 1st degree murder.

Regards,
GtG

66 posted on 04/11/2012 3:48:13 PM PDT by Gandalf_The_Gray (I live in my own little world, I like it 'cuz they know me here.)
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To: Lex Gabba; TheOldLady; Old Sarge; Darksheare; darkwing104; 50mm

ZOTTED n00bie troll.


83 posted on 04/11/2012 3:54:13 PM PDT by Arrowhead1952 (Dear God, thanks for the rain, but please let it rain more in Texas. Amen.)
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To: Lex Gabba

They’ll never get a conviction. Heck they won’t even get a jury.


103 posted on 04/11/2012 4:01:05 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Lex Gabba
Charging him is a foregone conclusion. Since a conviction is not terribly likely without a seriously compromised jury (not all that unlikely) they are probably going to keep kicking the trial down the road until after the election.

Obama and his rabble really want to use this to incite blacks to vote. If you don't charge him you get riots and random violence (not that you would notice above what they normally do) and you give Obama an election issue.

Charge him and let the prosecutor go on TV for a couple of weeks and threaten to smear him with honey and stake him to an ant bed. Wait until after the election to actually get a verdict handed down and Jackson, Sharpton, Obama and the rest of the poverty pimps won't care.

120 posted on 04/11/2012 4:06:42 PM PDT by hopespringseternal
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To: Lex Gabba

I was appalled when the prosecutor said they wanted “justice for Trayvon” before later backtracking and saying for Trayvon and Zimmerman. Later, I heard on Levin that she said she’d made up her mind last week. That leads me to believe she chose to bypass a Grand Jury which would be required for Murder One, and which might not give her the indictment. Instead, she decided to exercise her own judgment in filing charges at the highest level her authority allowed.


145 posted on 04/11/2012 4:16:40 PM PDT by EDINVA
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No...But here is 5 million volts for your lame attempt at unsolicited stupidity...

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193 posted on 04/11/2012 4:36:00 PM PDT by darkwing104 (Let's get dangerous)
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To: Lex Gabba
The was a legal argument that COULD be made for 1st but not a good one.

Based on what newbie?

197 posted on 04/11/2012 4:37:57 PM PDT by Road Warrior ‘04 (I miss President Bush! 2012 - The End Of An Error! (Oathkeeper))
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212 posted on 04/11/2012 4:44:40 PM PDT by RedMDer (https://support.woundedwarriorproject.org/default.aspx?tsid=93)
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To: Lex Gabba

I think the prosecutor didn’t take it to a Grand Jury because she was not sure of the outcome. To me this is very dangerous. It tells me if you defend yourself and the victim is black you will be charged. Even though it looks like Zimmerman was in imminent danger of bodily harm! If he is found innocent this will cost him millions to defend himself.


257 posted on 04/11/2012 5:28:10 PM PDT by tallyhoe
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To: Lex Gabba
The was a legal argument that COULD be made for 1st but not a good one. This is the most severe thing they have a hope of winning a conviction for

Posting from a Kiddie Komputer I see. At least that suits your familiarity with English...

Anyway, I haven't been able to drag these out for awhile. Thanks for the opportunity...

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442 posted on 04/11/2012 8:42:11 PM PDT by bcsco
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To: Lex Gabba

I suspect they will have a hard time convicting Zimmerman unless:
1. It was the kid on the ground doing the screaming
2. There is evidence that Zimmerman “provoked” the incident (which at least in Texas would remove his self defense protections); but provoke can have a multitude of interpretations.
3. If the broken nose and blood on his shirt is not backed up by the evidence.
4. If the witnesses that backed up his side of the story renege.
5. If the autopsy doesn’t back up Zimmerman’s story of the events.

In the absence some combination of the above, the best the prosecution can expect will be a hung jury (unless jurors get intimidated by black panther bounty crap). And then of course it will be riot time.

From portions of Texas PC 9.32 Deadly Force in Defense of a Person:
To protect the actor against the other’s use or attempted use of unlawful deadly force.
A person who has a right to be present at the location where the deadly force is used, who has not provoked the person against whom the deadly force is used and who is not engaged in criminal activity at the time the deadly force was used IS NOT REQUIRED TO RETREAT BEFORE USING DEADLY FORCE as described in the section. Also finders of fact MAY NOT consider whether the actor failed to retreat. (emphasis mine).

I’m relatively certain Florida’s laws are very similar.

Nostradamus called me today and said, “I see race violence in the middle and latter part of the year 2012 and continuing until 2013 whether or not dictators prevail, assuming my prediction of the end of the world on 12/21 does not come to fruition. He said he consulted the Mayan calendar before making the call.


454 posted on 04/11/2012 8:55:22 PM PDT by secondamendmentkid
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