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To: Jeff Head; Jim Robinson; greyfoxx39; All
Most people forget that Romney was elected governor in an overwhelmingly liberal state. RomneyCare is really MassCare because it was wht the people there wanted. It is quite possible, IMHO, that without Romney their plan would have even been even far worse...even though it is not acceptable as it is. Romney said the things he did and took the positions he did to get elected. Otherwise he would not have been elected. To help understand him, look at the vetoes he made while Governor, particularly those that were immediately over-ridden by an 85% DNC legislature. [Jeff Head, post #818]

No wonder JimRob responded to this post of Mormon Jeff Head by saying "What a steaming pile of mealy-mouthed clap trap. What happened to the strong hard as nails pro-life, pro-Liberty conservative Jeff Head that I used to admire and respect."

Jeff Head wants us to judge RomneyCare on the basis of the Bay State being a liberal state & looking @ what Romney vetoed overall in that state. Even if we conclude that RomneyCare was some sort of "given" -- as Jeff contends -- how about looking at what Romney could have vetoed to dilute the abortion impact of RomneyCare...but refused:

By April 12, 2006 when RomneyCare passed, this was no longer an issue of Romney having to do or say something to get elected or even govern (as Jeff insinuates -- "though it is clear Romney took liberal positions to get elected governor, and then to govern there")...nobody in 2006 was forcing a gun to Romney's head to remain pro-abortion.

Via RomneyCare, Mitt expanded abortion access/taxpayer funded abortions for women--including almost 2% of the females of his state who earn $75,000 or more. Assessment: (Wait a minute, I thought he told us post-'06 that ALL of his actions were "pro-life?" How could this be other than what JimRob concluded: "Romney is a fricken compulsive LIAR!!").

Also, not only this, but as governor, Romney could have exercised veto power to portions of Commonwealth Care. Did Romney exercise this power? (Yes, he vetoed Sections 5, 27, 29, 47, 112, 113, 134 & 137). What prominent section dealing with Planned Parenthood as part of the "payment policy advisory board" did Romney choose NOT to veto? (Section 3) That section mandates that one member of MassHealth Payment Policy Board must be appointed by Planned Parenthood League of MA. (See chapter 58 of the Acts of 2006, section 3 for details).

1,122 posted on 04/12/2012 6:45:15 PM PDT by Colofornian ( It's not even 'conservative convictions' be damned anymore; they've ALREADY BEEN anathematized.)
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To: Colofornian

I made my position clear in post 818 for anyone to read...you can spin it however you want based on your own obvious agenda and slant.

If Romney wins the nomination I will back him over Obama. Newt has not bowed out yet, so, after Sarah, Cain, and Santorum, now I support Newt.

I pray for a brokered convention...that would give us a chance to get a more conservative candidate for President.

But, if that doesn’t happen, then that post speaks my mind and it is really pretty easy to understand and why...I say so. And it is not the words you are attempting to put in my mouth.


1,189 posted on 04/12/2012 8:48:42 PM PDT by Jeff Head (Freedom is not free, never has been, never will be (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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