...with Obama our destruction is certain.
As for myself I would rather face the person accosting me than be stabbed in the back.
“BS! You’re wanting to go off the cliff at 70 instead of 100. You aren’t even wanting to slam on the brakes which is what’s needed.”
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OK, we have Obama and Romney; care to tell us how to slam the brakes on here? There’s a term and a concept you should get familiar with...it’s called reality. You can sit home feeling sorry for yourself on election night, but that won’t accomplish anything. In the immortal words of Burgess Meredith (Grumpy Old Men): “You can wish in one hand and crap in the other, and see which one gets filled first.”
You’re wanting to go off the cliff at 70 instead of 100. You aren’t even wanting to slam on the brakes which is what’s needed.
With all due respect you just described the GOP I know and hate. They have been heading 70mph instead of 100 and that won’t change no matter who we elect. I have said that for years and I have always been an optimist. Truthfully, we are screwed. If Newt were elected and he cut entitlement spending even 10% he would be voted out in 4 years. The mid-term election would see the GOP massacred just like the rats took it on the chin in 2010. That is the country we live in.
I don’t trust Mitt Romney and doubt that he is a conservative. I also believe that we have only seen glimpses of what Obama would become with a second term and it is an indisputable fact that he will probably nominate at least one SCOTUS Justice if not three. This President has been a complete disaster in every area of executive responsibility.
I have 3 young children and despite my pessimistic attitude about the direction of our nation it is my obligation as their father to try and exert the only realistic influence I have to make things better for them. I can do this by pragmatically choosing the lesser of two evils with the sincere hope that we may preserve the slim 5-4 majority in SCOTUS that we now rely on to thwart the progressives (including many in the GOP-e).
Let me lay out three examples for you -
DC vs Heller - 2nd Amendment 2008 - we won 5-4 - our right to own firearms for purposes of defense was decided by one vote
Casey vs Planned Parenthood 1992 - we lost the issue of abortion 5-4 - a blight on our nation
Gonzalez vs Carhart - Partial Birth Abortion 2007 - we won 5-4 to uphold a law against this sickness
Assuming that Romney even appointed moderate Judges like Kennedy - that would be light years beyond another Kagan type Judge
Obamacare - the largest power grab attempt by the Federal government since the New Deal is possibly going to be decided 5-4
Here are some examples of issues that will probably be in court if Obama gets another 4 years and all of us could probably add additional issues and these are not trivial -
The Fairness Doctrine - the biggest attack on the 1st Amendment in our nations history.... lose that and say goodbye to this website. The left really wants this.
The EPA and Environmental Fascism - Obama has already shown he will use government agencies to promote fascism in the name of climate change - the major obstacle? It’s not the voters and it’s not the GOP... it’s the courts. Think it’s bad that the government can tell us what lightbulbs to use? Just wait until they get the 5th vote!
Private 401k’s, IRA’s, and retirement funds - the left is already talking about the government taking over these funds “to manage them”. We will all work for government if they do this and right now it is probably a 5-4 vote. I believe this administration would consider nationalizing the banks far beyond what they already have... why not? Government motors anyone?
Obamacare - if he loses it (I think he will) they will go to work on another version and the court will be more favorable the next time.
These are some of the reasons I will vote against Obama for the sake of my children. SCOTUS provides the ultimate veto for unconstitutional behavior by government and it is one heartbeat away from being changed forever.
Our founders were pragmatic men who understood how fragile our republic would be. I have studied them quite a bit recently and have an even larger appreciation of their vision when they wrote the constitution. The only thing that is currently saving us is not the GOP... it’s the courts.
Furthermore, I believe our economy is not bulletproof and it could collapse if we do not get control of our progressive spending. If this happens, it is the courts that might determine the limits of executive branch authority. Our freedom may come down to one vote.
It’s nice to say you are an “all or nothing conservative” but that does not reflect reality. Like it or not.... there are two choices. Reasoned debate is the cornerstone of conservatism because our ideas are correct and that is what this community should reflect. All of these unkind comments against other FReepers for facing reality with reason and concern for our nation do not promote the kind of healthy debate I came to this site for many years ago.
I would love to have the perfect Conservative candidate who could convince half our nation that wealth redistribution is evil and leads to fascism. I would love to run my car on unicorn farts and pixie dust too. Our hopes and dreams are often shattered by reality. Face it, half our nation are already wards of the state. When the boomers all retire that number will climb even further.
All this belief that a conservative on a white horse will save us is not going to happen FRiend. Sorry, that is just my opinion, but I believe it is a reasoned and logical observation given our current circumstances. I don’t believe Washington, Adams, Franklin, Jefferson, Lincoln, and Reagan rolled into one could convince our fellow citizens of the need to sacrifice for the sake of future generations.
I don’t like it. I don’t feel good about it. I don’t want it to be that way. I am so convinced that our difficulties will get much worse that I sold a beautiful home in the city and moved out to the country to start a hobby farm for my family. I wanted to be prepared to care for them if our illusion of America shatters. I want my young children to learn how to garden, tend livestock, and survive without the things we take for granted. I pray we won’t have to, but I felt like it was my duty as their father. I bust my butt working long hours and make the longer drive home to bust my butt building a hobby farm. It has not been easy, but I am glad we did it. That is the choice my wife and I made examining the reality of our national situation.
You are free to choose but don’t call me names for doing the same. I believe that freedom hangs by one Supreme Court vote right now. Not many Americans before me could say that. We are in deep trouble and it will take generations to fix. I fear that too many of our fellow citizens don’t have the guts to make the hard choices so our politicians in both parties will just keep smiling and telling us that everything is alright. Romney will probably do the same, but I know Obama will definitely do that and make it worse.
Vote for whomever you choose. I should be free to share my reasoning with this community to uphold the principles of conservatism as I see it. Me and Jim Robinson will be dead and gone when my children have to live with the consequences of the decisions we make today.
Don’t even bother to call me a romneybott. Don’t bother to try and convince me that Romney is just as bad as Obama. I won’t be bullied because I care more about my kids than a bunch of groupthink on a web forum. I shared a reasoned opinion with you and it deserves more than name calling. If I get banned for voting anyone but Obama... so be it. I wish all of you luck and God bless. Choose wisely, my children are counting on you!