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Santorum suspension could unite GOP at last
Yorker UK ^ | April 14, 2012 | Benjamin Bland

Posted on 04/14/2012 4:37:52 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife

Just when everyone was settling down for another month (at least) of borderline primary season tedium, it happened. Rick Santorum announced that, after one of the most surprisingly successful primary campaigns in recent memory, he was suspending his run for the Republican nomination to be President of the United States. What was behind this sudden about turn from the conservative who was closest to pushing Mitt Romney for victory? Well it has to be said that the decision seems largely to have been made on personal grounds. With his three year old daughter, Bella, having been hospitalised last week, noted family man Santorum decided to call it a day.

Of course there were political reasons as well, of that there is no doubt. The Santorum team was clearly frustrated with the failure of Newt Gingrich to pull out of the nomination race, a decision which, had it been made by the former Speaker of the House some time ago, could have resulted in Santorum being far closer behind Romney.

Furthermore the Santorum campaign simply could not have continued to compete with Romney financially for much longer. With his huge budget and supportive poll numbers in states like Santorum’s home state of Pennsylvania, Romney was making life more and more difficult for Santorum to remain a realistic competitor and no doubt that has taken its toll.

Still, it was a surprising move from a man who, as recently as last week, pledged to remain in the race until one candidate had amassed the delegate count needed for victory.

What is perhaps most interesting about the fallout from this Santorum move is the reaction from the Republican party. At the moment little is clear but this could be just the trigger Republicans have needed to finally get behind Mitt Romney as their candidate for November. Polling has suggested that Santorum supporters will now split between Romney and Gingrich and it is now almost a foregone conclusion that Romney will cruise to victory, especially as he is well ahead of Gingrich in polling in large winner takes all states such as California.

The best thing Newt could do of course would be to drop out but his stubbornness still knows no bounds and as such Santorum’s announcement only prompted him to make a plea for more support from conservatives. Realistically though his campaign must realise that only in their wildest dreams will Gingrich stake a claim to the nomination. His polling simply is not good enough and the amount of states coming up which feature winner takes all delegate allocation figures heavily against him as the Romney team will be able to vastly outspend him in the campaigning stakes.

One candidate who it seems will definitely finish the race alongside Mitt Romney is Ron Paul, the libertarian who has run his campaign to promote an ideal rather than with genuine hopes of victory. Paul could be on the list for potential Vice-President nominees, if so inclined, and so it will be interesting to see what he does when the GOP is forced to eventually put its weight behind Romney as its candidate. How soon that open backing of Romney will be remains an open question but senior party figures must be hoping that attention now finally turns to the fight against Obama and not the fight between Republicans.


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I take issue with the assumption in the first paragraph that it was their youngest - Bella's health that prompted Rick Santorum's withdrawal. Her health challenges were understood and had previously come to the forefront of his campaign during the Florida primary. So that doesn't gel. Neither does it gel that because Newt wouldn't withdraw it hurt Santorum.

Will it happen that by Rick dropping out Mitt picks up half of his supporters and the nomination?

Newt Gingrich knew that by staying in he was helping to preserve the conservative block of voters that would have moved to Romney.

But Newt is called "stubborn." I guess that depends on where you stand. From my vantage point, Rick Santorum handed the nomination to Mitt on a silver platter.

1 posted on 04/14/2012 4:37:56 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Ricks withdrawal made it easy for Romney.but the Gop still has to gin up support for this rhino


2 posted on 04/14/2012 4:42:03 AM PDT by Yorlik803 (better to die on your feet than live on your knees.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Look, this is a free market - and we’re getting the best candidate money can buy.


3 posted on 04/14/2012 4:48:36 AM PDT by Riodacat (And when all is said and done, there'll be a hell of a lot more said than done......)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Dream on.


4 posted on 04/14/2012 4:49:00 AM PDT by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Rick was promised his life and the lives of his family would be nothing but misery so he gave up


5 posted on 04/14/2012 4:56:08 AM PDT by yldstrk ( My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

“But Newt is called “stubborn.” I guess that depends on where you stand. From my vantage point, Rick Santorum handed the nomination to Mitt on a silver platter”

Bingo! Santorum absolutely knew that Bella would prohibit his run for office because of her health problems. I can’t help but wonder if, by playing nice with Romney, he made a deal with the GOP for a future coronation by the RNC when Bella is no longer an issue.


6 posted on 04/14/2012 5:01:16 AM PDT by freeangel ( (free speech is only good until someone else doesn't like it)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Look it is time we all took a chill pill.
The majority of us here on FR had a candidate other than Romney. My first choice was Herman Cain. Last time (2007) my choice was Fred Thompson.
As far as I am concerned Noot has way too much baggage. Yes he is a good debater, and yes he would give ZERO fits in a debate. We don't need a debater in the WH.
Noot now has very little chance of getting the nomination. I live in Florida and Cain had dropped out. I voted for Noot in the primary not because I liked him but he was the best choice at that time.
As far as the baggage goes with Noot no need to ask me about it. It is known by anyone with a thirst for knowledge. It is not the wives I could care less how many he had or how they broke up.
If Noot should somehow get the nomination of course I will vote for him. I would vote for Lucifer over ZERO. I would vote for HITLERY over Zero.
7 posted on 04/14/2012 5:12:12 AM PDT by DeaconRed (I am not a Golfer; however I love ping. Ask me why. . . . .)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Neither does it gel that because Newt wouldn't withdraw it hurt Santorum.

No? Check out the results from OH and MI and the delegate allocation rules from Alabama and Mississippi.

8 posted on 04/14/2012 5:17:03 AM PDT by Impy (Don't call me red.)
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To: Voter#537
Look it is time we all took a chill pill...

...I would vote for Lucifer over ZERO. I would vote for HITLERY over Zero.

LOL I guess the chill pill did not work!

Romney won't even win his home state. But he will win Utah.

9 posted on 04/14/2012 5:42:45 AM PDT by Theophilus (Not merely prolife, but prolific)
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To: Yorlik803
Ricks withdrawal made it easy for Romney.but the Gop still has to gin up support for this rhino

Dittos for Santorum. I posted this because history is being re-written to suit Mitt and cushion Rick.

In 2004, when the GOP-e told Santorum to endorse Arlen Specter over Pat Toomey he did what he was told, which after a bitter battle gave Obama-Pelosi-Reid Care the vote they needed to pass "affordable" universal health care.

Rick "took one for the team" but it is the country that eventually took it in the back. When Rick was defending himself to Mitt RomneyCare for "taking it for the team," Newt was attacking Obama's infanticide. Transcript of Feb 22, 2012 CNN Republican Debate in Arizona

Here it is 8 years later, and we've returned to the scene of the Santorum-Specter-GOP-e crime scene -- Pennsylvania -- to witness yet another vote involving Rick Santorum and choices he makes. Again he chose to remain politically viable. He dropped out to help himself. From now on he will be as "loved" and "respected" as Arlen Specter is.

The ONLY conservative left standing in the GOP Primary before and after Santorum's "surprise" suspension of his campaign is Newt Gingrich.

10 posted on 04/14/2012 5:46:39 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Will it happen that by Rick dropping out Mitt picks up half of his supporters and the nomination?

Its too late for me to vote for Gingrich but I will admit that it would be hard to do in the face of the continuing attacks from a handful of Newt supporters.
11 posted on 04/14/2012 5:46:57 AM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: central_va
Dream on.

Wake up.

12 posted on 04/14/2012 5:55:08 AM PDT by trebb ("If a man will not work, he should not eat" From 2 Thes 3)
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To: cripplecreek
Since Rick dropped out, Newt's campaign set forth as one of their goals picking up as many of Rick's supporters as they can.

Any number of Newt supporters here think the best way to do this is to continue trashing Rick and those that supported him.

I guess I'm just too ignorant to recognize the brilliance of their plan.

13 posted on 04/14/2012 5:57:27 AM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: cripplecreek

Do what you will. I seriously doubt anything I’ve posted will affect how you vote anyway. I have sat back and posted threads on Newt’s campaign that have seen posters come on just to twist the gist of the thread — and for why? There is no mention of Santorum, they do it just for spite — because Rick dropped out.

I have not gone to Santorum threads before or after his decision, but today I felt that to keep the “record” of why Rick suspended accurate for a few moments longer, that I would post the truth.

Incidentally, yesterday I posted a comment to one of my own threads to keep it from turning into a Santorum roast. So go somewhere else “cripplecreek” to vent.


14 posted on 04/14/2012 6:01:09 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

I’m not talking about you in particular. Take a look at this thread and at some of the rabid hatred being spewed at Rick Santorum and his supporters this morning.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2871985/posts


15 posted on 04/14/2012 6:06:09 AM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: Voter#537
....As far as I am concerned Noot has way too much baggage. Yes he is a good debater, and yes he would give ZERO fits in a debate. We don't need a debater in the WH. Noot now has very little chance of getting the nomination. I live in Florida and Cain had dropped out. I voted for Noot in the primary not because I liked him but he was the best choice at that time. As far as the baggage goes with Noot no need to ask me about it. It is known by anyone with a thirst for knowledge. It is not the wives I could care less how many he had or how they broke up.

You're a regular little DNC-GOP-e talking point ventriloquist.

16 posted on 04/14/2012 6:07:39 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: cripplecreek

I think the Newt supports got tired of trying to be nice. It is hard to fault them.


17 posted on 04/14/2012 6:08:44 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: trebb
Dream on. Wake up.

F off.

18 posted on 04/14/2012 6:10:34 AM PDT by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

You’re a regular old Eddie Haskell yourself.

Always playing the peacekeeper and always playing the victim and always faulting those who spot you for what you are.


19 posted on 04/14/2012 6:13:29 AM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Santorum suspension could unite GOP at last

Santorum dropping out certainly made it more likely that Mr. Etch-A-Sketch will win the nomination, but I think the party is far from being united and it will probably be even less united in November.

20 posted on 04/14/2012 6:13:43 AM PDT by CharacterCounts (A vote for the lesser of two evils only insures the triumph of evil.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Where are all the patriots who put personal comfort aside for the good of the nation? The only people who run for the POtus seem to be only in it for personal gain.


21 posted on 04/14/2012 6:15:19 AM PDT by Yorlik803 (better to die on your feet than live on your knees.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

What does GOP-e stand for? GOP elite?


22 posted on 04/14/2012 6:17:50 AM PDT by WashingtonSource
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To: Yorlik803

IMHO many good people take a look and see what’s in store for them from the GOP-E, DNC and their bootlicking media and simply decide it’s not worth it.


23 posted on 04/14/2012 6:19:48 AM PDT by CharacterCounts (A vote for the lesser of two evils only insures the triumph of evil.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife; Kaslin; freeangel; Voter#537; trebb; Joe 6-pack
Let's extend this line of thinking a little more.

I was a Perry guy. Keep him as Governor of Texas. He's doing fine right where he is.

Let's extend this line of thinking a little more. Assuming Romney becomes the (R) nominee, he will need to coalesce the base. He must do this convincingly for conservatives and Tea Party to get on board full throttle, not just halfheartedly.

How many of us were enthusiastic about Reagan in 1980 but thought the "Rockefeller Wing" was going to sabotage our chances when he selected GHWBush as his VP? How many of us were somewhat enthusiastic about Quayle, but not so much about GHWBush in 1988? How many of us were enthusiastic about Kemp, not so enthusiastic about Dole in 1996? How many of us were only cautiously supportive of GWBush in 2000, but roared when we learned he'd selected Cheney as his VP?

How does he get us on board? Here's a suggestion:

Run not only with your VP but with your proposed cabinet as well.

Conservatives sometimes have to be reminded that a President is not king. He can't get anything done by dictate. Above all, he must be a quarterback for the team. While a quarterback may sometimes run a ball in to the end zone himself, more often than not he strategically uses the talents of his team mates to move the ball down the field and bring about the win.

Did anyone hear Palin the other night (4/12/2012) on Hannity when asked if she'd consider being Sec'y of Energy? Did you watch her show the following night in place of Greta? Did anyone hear our own FReeper Allen West when interviewed on Hannity (4/11/2012) and asked whether he'd consider being Romney's VP? And BOTH essentially said YES!

Newt has practically conceeded. Are any of these folks any less conservative for facing what are becoming our realities this election cycle?

I have proposed cabinet and administration roles for persons who were Romney's rivals at some point. These are the skill sets we conservatives wanted applied to to the places of government where they'd be most effective. Instead of rivals let's make them team players:

Rick Santorum - Sec'y of HHS

Sarah Palin - Sec'y of Energy + Sec'y of Interior (merge these)

Newt Gingrich - Sec'y of Education

Michelle Bachmann - Attorney General

Herman Cain - Sec'y of Commerce and Head of GSA (merge)

John Bolton - Sec'y of State

John Petraeus - Sec'y of Defense

Ron Paul - Head of Federal Reserve (let the audit begin)

Donald Trump - Head Council of Economic Advisers

Paul Ryan - Head of Office of Management and Budget

Joe Arpaio - Head of FBI, and Homeland Security (merge these)

Dick Cheney - Head of CIA

White House spokesman: Mark Levin

And our own FReeper, Allen West, as VP.

Next: Most of these folks are honed primed and stoked from the recent primary debates. They're all sharp. Nationalize the cabinet selection process as much as the Presidential and Congressional elections.

Release every one of these folks back out onto the the campaign trail with an assignment: tackle in an "in your face" way each of these departments - stage a kick-off news conference in front of each one of them. Challenge the office holders to the equivalent of Lincoln-Douglas style debates allowing each Obama appointed office member to defend their record and their (mis)-management of their public trust.

They won't debate, you say? OK, try some new Rules for Conservative Radicals. Stalk them, dog them with cameras, shame them into the arena, watch the cowards avoid the heat, watch for and exploit their mis-steps, create and run ads based on their failures in office and refusal to be made accountable.

While this is distracting the DNCs resources, Romney can land his own punches on Obama in the same way he's managed to blow away all his opposition in the primaries. Use Romney's well funded strike teams to confound opposition at the grass roots, do what they can to discourage and depress Democratic opposition and their voters.

Face it: if Romney was able to take out his competitors in the primary don't you suppose Obama's hacks could have taken anyone of them out in the general?

Have Romney's boys sew the seeds of hopelessness and dissension in the Obama ranks, emphasise betrayal and failure of Obama to keep 2008 promises. Undermine, destroy and confound the opposition into a confused, ill-directed mass who find themselves fighting on more than one Alinskyized, freeze-the-target Presidential candidate, and instead spending their resources fighting 10+ personalities "running" for cabinet offices.

Who are the "generals" they have to call into a fight like that?

Instead of dividing us with all the endless sniping, let's quit doing the DNC's work for them and work on dividing THEM for a change!

Romney and Netanyahu both began strategic business careers at Boston Consulting Group. Agree with them or disagree with them, but admit that they are patient, long range, strategic thinkers.

One of the things Romney has been able to do in large part is to keep his persona distanced from the decisively well-calculated positioning of opposition to rivals in the primaries. His name-less, face-less cloaked "hit-men" are as effective as any guerrilla force out there, but all that activity is maintained at a plausibly deniable, comfortable, arms-length distance from Romney the candidate. I dare say it puts the likes of Nixon's and Clinton's "opposition research" squads to shame.

Sorry George. Enough of the "kinder-gentler" crap. Tight formations, and "gentlemen's wars" provided the fixed targets that let us destroy the Brtis in our War of Independence.

I can see that machine going to work on Obama and leaving more than just a few lumps. Let's turn the "talents" of Romney's henchmen on to Obama, keep them disciplined, focused, and this side of doing any thing "Watergate," and let them go for the DNC's juggular.

If he's what we've got to work with this time around let's face that fact head on and let's hold his feet to the fire and make our will known as conservatives. If he's smart he'll seek our trust, and appoint many of our cabinet choices. To secure our trust he's going to have to both earn it and maintain it.

He'll go a long and convincing way to doing that by arming, deputizing, and funding the campaign efforts of his "cabinet-in-waiting."

FReegards!


24 posted on 04/14/2012 6:22:36 AM PDT by Agamemnon (Darwinism is the glue that holds liberalism together)
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To: Voter#537

Newt’s so-called baggage is a carry-on bag compared to Romney’s entire matched set of Louis Viutton luggage.

Romney is the poinnacle of the GOP’s self destructive and anti-conservative bent.

McCain in 2008 just did not do enough damage to the GOP, so let’s go with Romney because Newt has “baggage”.

Romney isn’t even a Republican. He has disavowed any principle conservatives hold dear.

I’ll vote for the “imperfect” Newt, and I’ll offer to carry his “baggage” any day. At least the man loves America.


25 posted on 04/14/2012 6:24:54 AM PDT by exit82 (Democrats are the enemies of freedom. Be Andrew Breitbart.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Paul could be on the list for potential Vice-President nominees

What planet is the author from?

Kolob?

26 posted on 04/14/2012 6:27:52 AM PDT by Rome2000 (Rick Santorum -Mission Accomplished)
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To: CharacterCounts

Unfortunately its not just politicians. Too many conservatives are unwilling to forego their current comforts to take a real stand for what’s right.

My congressman told me that the tea party came out in force to elect him, then they went home and he hasn’t heard a peep out of us since.


27 posted on 04/14/2012 6:28:50 AM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: Agamemnon

To date, Mitt and his Super-PAC have spent about $100 Million to carpet bomb the airways with lies against their opponents — the conservatives. He may be the man the GOP-E likes but he is not an attractive nominee to me. We are still holding a primary and I vote for Newt.


28 posted on 04/14/2012 6:30:51 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Agamemnon

Please stop doing the Romney’s campaign’s work for them on Free Republic.

I am not interested in Romney nor in getting him elected.

To anything.

There is one conservative left standing and that is NEwt Gingrich, who is head and shoulders above Romney.

Romney doesn;t have a conservative bone in his body, nor, from his record, a Republican one.

He lies above being “severely conservative”, when he record is the polar opposite; then his campaign folks say his positions are like the designs on an Etch-A-Sketch.

My primary is 4/24, and I am voting for Gingrich. I want to send Newt to Tampa to stop the self destructive madness Romney represents in the GOP.


29 posted on 04/14/2012 6:37:44 AM PDT by exit82 (Democrats are the enemies of freedom. Be Andrew Breitbart.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Seems the GOP rinos win again by splitting the vote in the primaries and allowing crossover voting so that their handpicked liberal demrino Romney can win the so called conservative nomination. What a joke it is.
I believe that conservatives must start a new conservative third party rather than continue to try to rebuld the corrupted rino GOP party, a useless endeavor at best and the road to serfdom at worst.
A barrel of rotten apples must be disposed of, the barrel burnt and a new barrel and new apples put in lest the old barrel corrupt the new apples, which represent DC politicians for those who continue to try to vainly rebuild a corrupt GOP.


30 posted on 04/14/2012 6:46:21 AM PDT by kindred (Jesus Christ is the Lord God and Messiah of Israel, a present help in time of trouble.)
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To: WashingtonSource
What does GOP-e stand for? GOP elite?

I use it for Establishment but Elite is used too.

31 posted on 04/14/2012 6:58:14 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
I think Santorum was a RINO foil to Newt. Rick played the Catholic card well enough against Newt to give Mittens enough room through his war chest to make it about “only Mitt has a chance to pull it out now.”. Rick has already publicly stated he was a “team player” once - why does it surprise anyone that he wouldn't do it again? Remember when Newt was asking him to step down when Newt had the momentum after the debates?
32 posted on 04/14/2012 7:20:59 AM PDT by jettester (I got paid to break 'em - not fly 'em)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

It unites the GOPE with the GOPE. I’m a Tea Party guy, there’s no “uniting” for me!


33 posted on 04/14/2012 7:30:17 AM PDT by ThePatriotsFlag (Still a contributing Republican? Why?)
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Click

34 posted on 04/14/2012 7:31:11 AM PDT by RedMDer (https://support.woundedwarriorproject.org/default.aspx?tsid=93)
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To: WashingtonSource

“What does GOP-e stand for? GOP elite?”

GOP establisment. Could just as easily be GOP elite.

I prefer to call them the nomenklatura as that also connotes the mediocrity and hereditary nature of that group.


35 posted on 04/14/2012 7:46:45 AM PDT by Psalm 144 ("I'm not willing to light my hair on fire to try and get support. I am who I am." - Willard M Romney)
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To: Yorlik803

This isn’t about Mitt Romney, Rick Santorum, Rick Perry or any other of the candidates. This about the future of this country. When I first researched Barack Obama, I was quickly able to find out that he was a Marxist whose cores values were totally foreign to American values. In less than three years, he has wrecked havoc on almost every aspect of this society. He is sitting there smiling when he sees the opposition in disunity. As time has passed, I have become more and more afraid as I see his people micromanage farm life, energy use, what we eat, etc. With each regulation, this country becomes less functional. If he gets a second term, this country will slowly grind to a halt under the weight of his government’s excessive meddling in every aspect of our lives.


36 posted on 04/14/2012 7:56:31 AM PDT by Essie
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To: kindred
I believe that conservatives must start a new conservative third party rather than continue to try to rebuld the corrupted rino GOP party

I think you're absolutely right. As far as I can tell, there has always been an alliance in the GOP between the Wall Street (Rockefeller, Northeast) branch and Main Street. Their interests were often enough close enough to keep the whole together. I think it was basically Roe v. Wade that started the split; that was the beginning of "social issues" becoming political issues. And the Rockefeller wing was never anti-abortion -- see Gerald Ford, pro-abort, though not in the wild-eyed NARAL sense; it seemed as if he just honestly couldn't see what the fuss was about.

37 posted on 04/14/2012 8:01:06 AM PDT by maryz
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To: Agamemnon
Your cabinet choices sound great . . . most unlikely they'd be Mitt's choices. I'm in MA, and the one thing I recall Mitt being really firm and insistent on is that he would not have one Jim Rappaport (the party's choice) as his lt.gov. Someone who follows local politics more closely than I said it was because Rappaport would not have been a lapdog for Mitt. So Mitt found an unknown who would be just that.
38 posted on 04/14/2012 8:11:22 AM PDT by maryz
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To: Cincinatus' Wife; exit82
I am absoutely on board with everybody still intending to vote for Newt in their primaries to do so.

It's an essential part of holding Romney's feet to the fire, and keeping him on notice that our loyalty to the GOP will have to be earned DAILY. Our support has to be earned, it is not a given and the Tea Party is a force to be reckoned with, not just another constituency to pay lip service to.

Newt has expressed and to a certain degree acknowedged the fact that for him reality is setting in. What do supporters say when he's $4.5 MM in debt, his chief Las Vegas backer has quit writing him checks, he's bouncing $500 election filing checks in places like Utah and failing to file to run in conservative bastions like VA where he'd actually have a fighting chance?

From FoxNews Sunday as reported by World Net Daily:

ELECTION 2012

Gingrich: Mitt Romney likely nominee

Newt acknowledges his campaign is 'operating on a shoestring' Published: 6 days ago

(FOX NEWS) — Newt Gingrich acknowledged Sunday that his campaign is “operating on a shoestring,” as he signaled he is preparing to transition from candidate to surrogate in anticipation of Mitt Romney winning the nomination.

While not throwing in the towel just yet, the former House speaker spoke frequently in past tense about his presidential bid in an interview on “Fox News Sunday.” He said he wants to continue to try and influence the party platform, but said he’s already discussed with the Republican National Committee how he can best help the nominee defeat President Obama if it’s not him.

Reality is starting to set in and I am not championing Romney. I am championing what could be the best places where we expected our primary favorites to have the most impact: where conservative policy actually becomes reality, not just a platform plank.

If conservative will is going to win the operational contest it must be at the cabinet appointment level. We win the cabinet by winning the the big contest. There is no other way to do it. We have to win as a team.

"We hang together or we hang separately."

FReegards!


39 posted on 04/14/2012 8:13:26 AM PDT by Agamemnon (Darwinism is the glue that holds liberalism together)
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To: Agamemnon

You may not be championing Mitt but you are doing your best to diminish Newt.


40 posted on 04/14/2012 8:18:40 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: ThePatriotsFlag
It unites the GOPE with the GOPE. I’m a Tea Party guy, there’s no “uniting” for me!

Please visit Newt.org and consider a contribution.

The fat lady hasn't sung yet.

Thanks.

41 posted on 04/14/2012 8:23:46 AM PDT by Right_in_Virginia
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To: maryz
Your cabinet choices sound great . . . most unlikely they'd be Mitt's choices. I'm in MA, ...

I'm in CT, grew up in RI and MA in the 60's and '70's. I know what lack of representation means and we held the equivalent of Tea Party rallies calling for Victory in Vietnam outside the Park Plaza (the known as the Staler Hilton) in Boston at the little park across the street over 4th of July at the time.

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Victory in the Sky on the 4th of July!

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With Black and Conservative author, George Schuyler at “Victory in the Sky” July 4, 1970 (I’m in the yellow windbreaker)

Third parties don't win anything. They are only spoilers. Theodore Roosevelt's Bull-Moose in 1912 gave us Wilson. In 1972 the American Independent Party ran John Schmitz/Tom Anderson. In 1976 some third party thought former Governor Lester Maddox would take out Carter, when (as imperfect as he was )Ford needed every vote he could get. How did 1977 -1981 turnout fo the US anyway?

Libs ran John Anderson to try to knock out Reagan in 1980 (fail). Perot gave us Clinton two times. The only 3rd party that ever advantaged anything was Wallace back in 1968 to assure (the substantially imperfect but better that Pinko Humphrey) Richard Nixon's win.

Take over the Party apparatus of the Party you have, don't waste time and effort spinning your wheels in ways that while it may make you feel better for a short time only gurantees the victory of whoever wins in the end.

FReegards!


42 posted on 04/14/2012 8:44:24 AM PDT by Agamemnon (Darwinism is the glue that holds liberalism together)
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To: Agamemnon
I wasn't advocating a third party . . . I just think it's inevitable, if not now in the future. Small gov't t conservatives and big gov't Republicans have been fighting since the 70s and don't seem to be getting closer. In fact, the antagonism seems to be growing. Depressing prospect all around.

BTW, did you turn out as cute as you were in the yellow windbreaker? ;-)

43 posted on 04/14/2012 8:51:05 AM PDT by maryz
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
You may not be championing Mitt but you are doing your best to diminish Newt.

If Newt is coming to some realizations on his own, perhaps we all should too.

Forget the womanizing past (that Romney for all his flaws does not have). Bounced checks and negligent filings are the things that diminish Newt more than anything else. Those are evidence of careless organizational mis-steps, not a failure to fund raise. His crew must be more disciplined in order to gain visibility.

I for one hope Newt takes Texas in spite of all the lack of organization, and really makes Romney work for every vote he gets. Like I said, I was a Perry guy, but it is clear that we need a polished speaker -- like Reagan was, not someone who chokes at speechifying and can be thrown off by back pain meds when it's his moment to shine. Perry kind of faded like Fred Thompson did back in '08. But the simplicity of the post card tax filing got some visibility with his candidacy and a lot of people will find that appealing.

Newt's continued candidacy makes Romney have to scream Reaganism, anti-tax, pro-gun, pro-life, etc. in order to gather GOP support. And that's a good thing. It sets the tone for speeches to be made the whole way through the election, and for speeches that may be written and parrotted by proposed cabinet nominees.

I am championing conservativism the only way that we're ever going to be able to do it in the long run, while all we have are grossly imperfect human spokespeople to do it.

And that includes Newt.

FReegards!


44 posted on 04/14/2012 9:07:50 AM PDT by Agamemnon (Darwinism is the glue that holds liberalism together)
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To: Agamemnon; Cincinatus' Wife

He failed to file in VA??

Are you talking about the primary?

He didn’t do that.

His petition of names to qualify for the ballot was disqualified as was Perry’s.

Santorum didn’t even try to qualify.

Only Romney and Paul were accepted, because their names weren’t checked because they ran in 2008, so, were accepted without question.


45 posted on 04/14/2012 9:22:14 AM PDT by txrangerette ("HOLD TO THE TRUTH...SPEAK WITHOUT FEAR" - Glenn Beck)
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To: Agamemnon
keeping him on notice that our loyalty to the GOP will have to be earned DAILY.

My loyalty can't be bought or sold. Romney is not conservative. There is nothing he can say or do to change or conceal that fact.

46 posted on 04/14/2012 9:34:03 AM PDT by Theophilus (Not merely prolife, but prolific)
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To: maryz
BTW, did you turn out as cute as you were in the yellow windbreaker? ;-)

Back in those days I couldn't seem to get a date on a Saturday night; still, I am always hopeful in my belief that my wife of 27 years and 4 kids later musta found something that in her opinion was worth marrying and sticking it out with all these years!

FReegards!


47 posted on 04/14/2012 9:47:49 AM PDT by Agamemnon (Darwinism is the glue that holds liberalism together)
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To: txrangerette
His petition of names to qualify for the ballot was disqualified as was Perry’s. Santorum didn’t even try to qualify.

Examples of organizational failures in each of the three instances. One can't gloss over the fact that if you didn't file with the capability of qualifying, you failed to file.

There are no "do-overs" in these things and you have to get it right the first time. Can't just chalk up Romney's and Paul's successes to who was on the ballot in '08 in VA.

That said, let's all recall that Reagan began his run for the White House in 1976, not 1980. We should not be surprised that either Romney or Paul had the foundations laid for their eventual ground games in VA back in 2008. I think we can all agree that Newt, Santorum, and Perry would all have benefitted by setting up a credible infrastructure well in advance of the 2012 election cycle.

When Paul for all his quirkiness has enough of an organization to qualify like that, that merely speaks to the failed ground game and casual inattention of each of the other three gave in a pivotally valuable, conservativley winnable, and fippable state (given 2008's electoral anomaly).

And none of the three most consevative in the race cared enough to even make a credible go at it!

I'm sure McDonnell was aware of all this, and understands the importance of electoral organization in the ground game. How could McDonnell ever have been persuaded to get behind any one of them with organizations in VA that looked like Keystone Kops? He went with the disciplined team.

Is McDonnell now personaly less conservative, because of the choice he made? Is he a RINO because other conservatives in the race didn't make a credible effort enough to even give him a choice to make?

As an original Perry guy, all that organizational incomeptence had me just shaking my head, but we have reality to too deal with now, and the duty to get our conservative say so in there in ways that will actually have some hope of bearing any fruit.

I have proposed what I believe to be a credible way to make that happen.

FReegards!


48 posted on 04/14/2012 10:25:28 AM PDT by Agamemnon (Darwinism is the glue that holds liberalism together)
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To: Voter#537
I would vote for Lucifer over ZERO.

So, you would sell your soul to Lucifer to keep Obama from a second term. Interesting. Is that the price for your immortal soul, or would you trade for less?

Thank God, some of us here on FreeRepublic have principles.

49 posted on 04/14/2012 12:25:13 PM PDT by COBOL2Java (FUMR)
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To: Theophilus
My loyalty can't be bought or sold. Romney is not conservative. There is nothing he can say or do to change or conceal that fact.

And Romney's PROVEN the fact that he WILL say anything.

50 posted on 04/14/2012 12:30:07 PM PDT by COBOL2Java (FUMR)
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