To: Mr. Jeeves; Cronos; jiggyboy
As long as there is steady supply young English speaking Indians with some basic skills in programming (.Net, Java, Oracle), business will always find a way to utilize their skill. There is no point screaming and yelling all that nonsense....”Indians are mediocre in quality” ....”they are cheap”....”they cant speak English”....”Americans are much better”.
First of all project managers and employers hiring them don't buy such nonsense and secondly no one really needs a super intelligent programming whizkid with decades of experience (because that doesn't count in this field). Any young professional with some intermediate skill in any of the latest technology can very well get the job done. Building a software application isn't really rocket science anymore. No employer in this economy is going to pay top dollar for a software programmer when there are millions of readily available resources from overseas.
61 posted on
04/16/2012 8:29:57 AM PDT by
ravager
To: khelus
62 posted on
04/16/2012 8:33:17 AM PDT by
ravager
To: ravager; Mr. Jeeves; jiggyboy
Any young professional with some intermediate skill in any of the latest technology can very well get the job doneYou are wrong. I've worked in datawarehousing for nearly 12 years now and your statement is wrong on so many levels. "get the job done" -- you can "get the job done" in ruby on rails but the code is not extensible. You can use MSAccess and VBA but then when the requirements expand you end up with a nightmare tool that functions, but no one knows how and when it breaks down, everyone's in a manic as no one knows how it works or why it works how it does
Secondly, intermediate skills in any technology is ok for basic programming, but you need a couple of years to understand what you can do -- with a guy with 5 years experience that comes down to 3 months, but not less.
Finally, more important than coding which any code monkey can do is software engineering -- thinking logically.
Building a software application isn't really rocket science anymore. -- if you want it to last and have a good foundation for building upon, then yes it is. If you want a hack job that functions right now, but you have to toss out if you ever want to add more functionality then yeah, it's not rocket science
No employer in this economy is going to pay top dollar for a software programmer when there are millions of readily available resources from overseas. -- yes and no. For a basic programmer, yeah. For an engineer, no.
66 posted on
04/16/2012 11:25:54 AM PDT by
Cronos
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To: ravager; Mr. Jeeves; jiggyboy
India bashing makes astute politics -- not really, there are not enough flks affected or who really care in the US.
Who doesn't like paying overrated American grads a ridiculous $150 grands with full benefits for writing a piece of code while their jobs are protected by unions. -- incrrect. Fresh American grads would get $40000 a year tops. Top rated engineers will get 100+ and PMs or PgMs will get 150+
67 posted on
04/16/2012 11:28:30 AM PDT by
Cronos
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