India won't be able to store another bumper crop

Economic Times ^ | 15 Apr, 2012, 03.54PM IST, IANS

[INVAR]

You don’t have a clue what you are talking about save your own animosity towards Christianity.

I’m living here experiencing what I testified to. Our brethren here suffer institutionalized persecution daily. I’ve seen it and experienced it firsthand bub.

What do you got? Only a worthless opinion.

One frankly more worthy to read on DU and a militant Atheist site instead of FR.

[ravager]

I find it amusing that you seem to have so much contempt for the people to whom you are tying to preach the Gospel.

“Pretty gross in a land that does not use TP.”

I don't know how much of the word you have traveled but much of Asia, Africa and definitely most of the third world don't not use TP. If you want to know why, do go to any general store in a city in India (they do have TP in India) and check the price of a roll. Paper is expensive in most parts of the world out side of US.

“In the cities of India, they have been trying to teach the population to use trash cans instead of simply tossing garbage into the streets and wherever they throw their waste.”

In a country where a large population has a tough time feeding and clothing itself, sanitation wouldn't quite be a high priority for a lot of people.

[ravager]

“What do you got? “

I have lived in India far longer, and I know and understand India far better then you ever will.

You can spew your lies and throw some epithets and labels when challenged but other then that.... what have YOU GOT?

[INVAR]

I find it amusing that you seem to have so much contempt for the people to whom you are tying to preach the Gospel.

I don't have any contempt for the people here.

I have contempt for the system that enslaves them to servitude, filth and deprivation.

go to any general store in a city in India (they do have TP in India)

In the rural slum villages, surrounding towns and cities - TP is not an item used or sold. And the vast numbers of India's poor population lives in these rural slums.

In a country where a large population has a tough time feeding and clothing itself, sanitation wouldn't quite be a high priority for a lot of people.

Again, more pathetic ignorance on your part. Sanitation and hygiene is not ANY kind of priority for this culture, and it's ability to feed and clothe itself is limited to it's millennia-old Caste system of haves, laborers to serve the Haves, and the Have-nots. The people here are willfully enslaved mind, body and soul to a playground that the Devil runs.

[INVAR]

You can spew your lies and throw some epithets and labels

I stand before the Lord by what I have testified to since I'm here on HIS business. You can call them lies all you like. You're not living in the slums here, I AM living here, and I am a witness to what I've seen and experienced.

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[ravager]

You may not realize but your contempt is actually quite evident when you say how shameless the population is because they never learn how to dispose the garbage the correct way.... and for not using TP. Wonder what Jesus would think about that comment of yours. :)

“I have contempt for the system that enslaves “

Please tell us what system you are talking about? The liberal secular democratic system of India?

“TP is not an item used or sold. “

Yes. And I asked you to find out why. You still have no answer.

“Sanitation and hygiene is not ANY kind of priority for this culture, and it's ability to feed and clothe itself is limited to it's millennia-old Caste system of haves, laborers to serve the Haves, and the Have-nots.”

Lets face it..... you have an agenda. You are in the business of spreading the Gospel, nothing wrong with that. However I dont quite see the Gospel fixing up India's economic problems (notwithstanding your strong contempt for non-Christian population/culture).

Every country in the world has an upper class and an underclass. Heck, I have lived in the US long enough to know even US has the same thing, big time! The class difference in India is far more grim but India is a large country that has just about started adopting free market capitalism and is slowly coming out of poverty in the last 2 decades ....after 3 centuries of slavery under guess who?.... A Christian colonial power. If the Gospel could have fixed India's Cast problem and fixed India's economic and sanitation problems it would have done it 3 centuries ago.

The silver lining is that India is changing, there is a lot more optimism and millions of people are actually coming out poverty. Most of it has really nothing to do with the spreading of the Gospel but any genuine good work sure has its rewards.

[INVAR]

Matthew 7:6

My mistake in violating that admonition when it comes to you. I won’t make it again.

[ravager]

“I stand before the Lord by what I have testified to since I'm here on HIS business. “

You don't need to make false testimonies taking the name of the Lord. As I said I have lived in India far longer then you have, I was raised there. I have been in villages and slums far more then you have or ever will and I speak the language. I have families and friends there who I visit regularly. And finally I am an Indian. There is just no way you can more about India then me. You cant even begin to understand the the people, the culture and the mindset the way I do, not matter what you say.

[ravager]

You cant make that mistake. You never had any pearls and you have no idea who really is a swine.

[Night Hides Not]

Why doesn’t the US turn Joe Biden into fuel then?

His plugs are noncombustible.

[coldphoenix]

Invar,
I actually agree with Ravager here.. why? Cos Im a Catholic and am from India.
You are blowing things WAY out of proportion...
There have been problems yes, I don’t disagree with that.
But for the most part things are not as bad as you make it seem to be.

THIS actually happened to me.
A preacher (bible society or new life christian or something like that) comes to our door and starts berating us for being catholic and venerating the Virgin Mary!! He then goes next door and starts calling our Hindu neighbors pagan devil worshipers!! Finally a passing constable had to intervene.. With people like that you can expect even retaliation. And you know what? Non-Christians will not be able to distinguish one from the other. We end up being clubbed with those ass hats and we had to explain to our neighbors that’s that weirdo preacher and us were NOT cut with the same cloth. You don’t just go to someones house and start insulting them and their beliefs.

[ravager]

I have heard that too. A lot of the foreign radical evangelical missionaries with big budget try to aggressively push forward their conversion agenda. They have a quota to fill and they have to show results for the funding they receive. In that process they even try to feed off other Christian denominations. They don't even recognize Catholics, Syrian Church or the Lesser Eastern Churches as Christians anymore. They are all clubbed as “Hindus”. And then they have their PR agents in US and Europe touting the whole “persecution” story to pitch for more funding. It's all a big scam.

[James C. Bennett]

The same scamsters are often forced to face insults and stones hurled at them by orthodox Jews in Israel. It’s almost comedic - the videos are available on YouTube if you want to verify this.