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To: SatinDoll
There exist illegal aliens who have been here decades and married U.S. citizens, produced children and grandchildren who are U.S. citizens, and because of already existing laws given preferential treatment by INS. These illegal aliens may be deported but only temporarily before being allowed to return. That’s the law when an alien has close family relatives who are citizens.

I am very aware of the law. Yes, if an illegal alien is married to an American, that person can eventually reenter the country once his spouse applies for sponsorship. But this will involve investigating the individual with a background check and physical. There are over 2 million "criminal" aliens in this country. And the vast majority of illegals, 12 to 20 million of them, are not married to amcits. So let's adhere to the rule of law and process people according to it.

Remember that we had an amnesty 26 years ago. The supporters of that amnesty said it would be one time and there would never be another one. The USG estimated that 1 million would apply, but the real number turned out to be 2.7 million. We now have 12 to 20 million illegals not counting the 300,000 to 400,000 anchor babies born each year.

He’s not pro amnesty; he is stating legal reality that for some illegal aliens permanent deportation just isn’t going to happen.

The logic of that is nonsense. We are not going to catch every murderer, but that doesn't mean we accept the fact that some murderers will escape justice. The proponents of amnesty are wont to create the false choice between a blanket amnesty and mass deportation of 12 to 20 million illegal aliens. In reality, we have other choices and alternatives that don’t reward people who have broken our laws with the right to stay and work here and an eventual path to citizenship. The 12 to 20 million illegal aliens did not enter this country overnight and they will not leave overnight. Attrition through enforcement works. We have empirical data from Georgia, Oklahoma, Alabama, and Arizona proving that it does.

If a person is an illegal alien married to another illegal alien they will be deported. Children, even if born in the U.S. will go with parents BECAUSE the Clinton Administration set the precedent when they sent Elian Gonzalez back to Cuba with his father - the U.S. keeps families together.

Wrong. Parents can allow their children 18 and under to remain in the US if they find an appropriate guardian to be responsibile for the children. Once the children reach 21, they can sponsor their parents to enter the US legally under chain migration, i.e., family reunification. Failing to find a guardian will mean that the children will be deported with the family, but they remain US citizens.

These laws already exist, kabar. Newt Gingrich will have them enforced once again, something the last four Presidents did not do at all. To change these laws, Congress must act.

We just need to enforce our existing laws and illegal immigration will decrease significantly and many will self-deport. Conferring rights and privileges upon illegal aliens has a corrosive effect on the Rule of Law, the very foundation of our Republic. It is also a slap in the face to legal immigrants who have followed the rules and obeyed the laws. There are millions of immigrants waiting their turn overseas to enter the U.S. legally. They have completed all of the paperwork including background investigations and physicals. Many have been waiting for years to enter depending on which immigration category they are in. Allowing those who entered illegally and have placed down "deep roots" to have their status legalized is just not fair and it sends the wrong signal to the hundreds of millions of people wishing to come here.

29 posted on 04/16/2012 7:23:28 AM PDT by kabar
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To: kabar

I know one thing about our situation: there is no way in Hell you’re going to get what you want except through laws passed by Congress.

Okay, you don’t trust Gingrich to enforce the laws as they exist. As President, Newt will not make laws. He know how our government should function while most in Congress do not.

Your choice then is to not vote, OR between Obama, a communist, and Romney, a fascist. Neither gives a damn about the U.S.Constitution, the law, or the rights of citizens. To vote for someone else after the nominating convention is to give the election to the communists.


32 posted on 04/16/2012 12:49:12 PM PDT by SatinDoll (No Foreign Nationals as our President!)
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