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Biden says most shootings happen with victim’s own gun
politifact.com ^ | 16 April, 2012 | The Truth-O-Meter

Posted on 04/17/2012 7:58:27 AM PDT by marktwain

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To: Jerrybob
Is this guy really as stupid as he sounds? How has he lasted this long in Washington being so darn dumb. If he said that bit to dumbness in New Orleans, he'd be laughed out of the 9th ward. We have shootings daily - sometimes multiple daily and the victims are NOT shooting themselves. It is drug dealers/druggies/drunks and just plain rotten people shooting people. Do this so called liberal intellects really believe that muck?
21 posted on 04/17/2012 8:22:49 AM PDT by Bitsy
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To: marktwain
BIDEN LOOSE NUT, LOOSE NUT BEHIND THE WHEEL
22 posted on 04/17/2012 8:25:36 AM PDT by FrankR
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To: marktwain
Crackhead Joe shoots of his undregistered weapon again.
23 posted on 04/17/2012 8:26:06 AM PDT by mountainlion (I am voting for Sarah after getting screwed again by the DC Thugs.)
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To: marktwain

You know, it’s becoming a close race as to whether the Obamaloon or Bidencretin is the most stupid.

Really, even the liberals should be able to do better than these two.


24 posted on 04/17/2012 8:29:17 AM PDT by Da Coyote
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To: marktwain

“Stand Up Joe!”


25 posted on 04/17/2012 8:31:50 AM PDT by hadaclueonce (you are paying 12% more for fuel because of Ethanol. Smile big Corn Lobby,)
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To: marktwain
Biden said he thinks it’s important to protect Second Amendment rights but expressed skepticism of laws that could result in people putting themselves in harm’s way. He said he’s "not so sure of" the idea that owning and carrying guns makes people safer.

He also threw out this claim about gun violence: "You know, the bulk of the people who are shot with a weapon — other than these drug gangs taking on one another — end up being shot with their own weapon."

This makes complete sense if you understand the liberal mind. Liberals believe the proper role of government includes protecting people from themselves. They believe the government is the first and only line of defense. So, it makes sense that they would see no difference between a gunshot wound from a violent crime and an intentional, self-inflicted gunshot wound. Both represent a governmental failure to protect.

Conservatives believe that the individual is the first line of defense. The government is a fallback, at best -- late on the scene, and often in the way. We also believe that the government need not protect people from themselves. Suicide, therefore, is not a government problem ... it is a psychological and sociological one. Don't protect me from myself, and get out of the way when I protect myself from someone else.

SnakeDoc

26 posted on 04/17/2012 8:32:45 AM PDT by SnakeDoctor ("I've shot people I like more for less." -- Raylan Givens)
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To: marktwain

That is exactly like saying, “Most intentional overdoses are done using one’s OWN PILLS!”


27 posted on 04/17/2012 8:34:46 AM PDT by Migraine (Diversity is great; until it happens to YOU.)
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We don't need to over-analysis this — Biden’s just a liar.

Context is everything, and Biden was stating that most people using a gun to defend themselves will have the attacker take the gun from them and use it against them.

That's it. That's what he meant. I know it, you know it, the American people know it.*






*Biden is an idiot.

28 posted on 04/17/2012 8:34:59 AM PDT by Alas Babylon!
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He said he’s "not so sure of" the idea that owning and carrying guns makes people safer

This from a buffoon protected by an armed detail everywhere he goes

29 posted on 04/17/2012 8:37:59 AM PDT by paul51 (11 September 2001 - Never forget)
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To: marktwain

Joe Biden walks into a bar…and wakes up in the hospital with a concussion.


30 posted on 04/17/2012 8:42:12 AM PDT by RichInOC (Palin 2012: The Perfect Storm.)
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To: Alas Babylon!; marktwain; Travis McGee

” You know, it’s becoming a close race as to whether the Obamaloon or Bidencretin is the most stupid. “

Biden reminds me of Chauncy Gardiner....


31 posted on 04/17/2012 9:26:58 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: marktwain

“I thought the left championed the ability of people to chose to die when they wish?”

Maybe their real concern is about potential competition for their buddies who want to expand from the abortion business into the euthanasia business...


32 posted on 04/17/2012 9:40:55 AM PDT by Hunton Peck (See my FR homepage for a list of businesses that support WI Gov. Scott Walker)
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To: marktwain

Three years ago, on TV, Little Joe B. bragged that his IQ was as high or higher than anyone he knows. I’ve never doubted that.


33 posted on 04/17/2012 9:53:48 AM PDT by Resettozero
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In Biden’s case, the safest thing would be to give him the gun and no ammo. Both Biden and innocent bystanders would be safe. The only thing Biden would have to worry about would be a thug getting his empty gun and beating him to a pulp with it.
34 posted on 04/17/2012 9:58:28 AM PDT by MasterGunner01 (11)
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To: marktwain
More bias from the inaptly named “truth-o-meter.” How is it a half truth when Biden uses statistics which include suicide, when the question was about “stand your ground” and the rules governing self defense? It's not a half-truth. It's not even a quarter of the truth but nothing more than an attempt to mislead the viewing audience by using statics which are misleading.
35 posted on 04/17/2012 11:24:36 AM PDT by Honcho
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