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Eight Minutes You Missed: George Zimmerman’s Former Lawyer’s Press Conference
Press Conference ^ | 04/17/2012 | Joan of Argghh!

Posted on 04/17/2012 10:02:57 AM PDT by JoanVarga

Since April 11th, the MSM has known at least as much as George Zimmerman's former lawyer told them about the facts of the case. Those facts were woefully out of line with the Narrative. So the MSM just let us wonder about the strange moment and didn't find much else very interesting. Except that it was.

That's why you didn't see this.

It's part of the entire 45 minutes' presser. All you or I got to see was a somewhat strange assembly listening to some lawyers throwing their client under the bus, or publicly wondering whether they had been thrown under the bus. Either way, it's too bad, because that eight minutes should be no mystery to anyone who has followed the facts of the case, sans media filtering.

But it's more than that. The man calls out the race-mongers in no uncertain terms:

...we've had some people come to town who are only relevant in an area of racial strife. . . who, frankly, have a business model based on driving division in racial communities. . .

And he calls out one of Martin's attorneys as well:

. . .actually had an attorney for the Martin family who, as far as we know actually went to law school, get on the air and say, "They need to just go ahead and arrest him and let him prove his innocence in a court of law." Really? In the United States? I don't think so!

Note that he's a former police officer and legal police adviser. He absolutely has to school the young pups about law, offense, and how facts work toward truth. He really throws down. After watching it from the 28 minute mark forward, I almost think he resigned just so he could smack the press around. He really goes after them and especially after the feely-meely questions from the women. Full of goodness. No wonder the press doesn't like this guy.

Watch the whole thing from about 28 minutes on. It's a completely impolitic rant. Satisfying. Or just click link above for the short version of the facts of the case. Either way, I found it worth the time:

Full 45 minute press conference here.

Get the popcorn and enjoy!


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Extended News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: craigsonner; georgezimmerman; haluhrig; justice; trayvon; trayvonmartin; zimmerman
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Just a bit of an extension on the Zimmerman case. The presser actually gets a bit rowdy after the 34 minute mark.
1 posted on 04/17/2012 10:03:02 AM PDT by JoanVarga
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To: JoanVarga

thanks...ping for later


2 posted on 04/17/2012 10:09:56 AM PDT by mick (Central Banker Capitalism is NOT Free Enterprise)
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To: JoanVarga

Thanks! I will watch the video later.


3 posted on 04/17/2012 10:10:17 AM PDT by Spunky
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To: JoanVarga

bump


4 posted on 04/17/2012 10:10:46 AM PDT by SouthTexas (You cannot bargain with the devil, shut the government down.)
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To: JoanVarga

Could you provide where the unaired 8 minutes portion of the video are, so I can avoid watching 45 minutes?


5 posted on 04/17/2012 10:14:10 AM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: JoanVarga

Sorry, maybe that is the link to the 8 minutes...I’ll look.


6 posted on 04/17/2012 10:17:29 AM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: dragnet2

You can also avoid 45 minutes (as I did) by watching the video from the 28 minute mark. Actually, after that 8 minutes, he’s just getting warmed up.


7 posted on 04/17/2012 10:18:58 AM PDT by JoanVarga ("Yes We Can" It's not just a slogan. It's a threat.)
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To: JoanVarga

Did anyone, like Fox, show this, at least the shortened version? I don’t watch pro-romney Fox station anymore.


8 posted on 04/17/2012 10:19:32 AM PDT by Linda Frances (Woe to those who call evil good and good evil, who put darkness for light and light for darkness.)
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To: Linda Frances

Get used to it, with your attitude you’ll be getting only state supported news after November anyway. Nothing to see here move on good useful idiot.


9 posted on 04/17/2012 10:22:53 AM PDT by bigfootbob
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To: JoanVarga

You have to wonder where all the Hispanics are, and why they are allowing this man to be crucified without response from them/

Zimmerman is alive today because he was armed and defended himself.

Angela Corey should be ashamed of herself for being cowed into bringing up Zimmerman on charges.


10 posted on 04/17/2012 10:23:12 AM PDT by Venturer
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To: JoanVarga

Great video, great attorney!

It’s about time someone other than the typical black racist are speaking out with actual facts. I hope this guy stays with Zim.

Thank you for posting this.


11 posted on 04/17/2012 10:27:32 AM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: dragnet2

You’re welcome. I’m a giver. :o)


12 posted on 04/17/2012 10:32:07 AM PDT by JoanVarga ("Yes We Can" It's not just a slogan. It's a threat.)
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To: Linda Frances; JoanVarga

Send the eight minutes to Brett Bozell, Media Research Center www.mrc.org
He has done an excellent job of pointing out media bias and will bring it to the attention of everyone he can to right the misrepresentation. He was the force behind highlighting the ABC, NBC, and CNN Zimmerman errors.


13 posted on 04/17/2012 10:32:42 AM PDT by hoosiermama
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To: JoanVarga

Sorry about #5. I blanked there.

White folk better wise up to some of the black or Hispanic folk using their color as a weapon and deceitful tool.


14 posted on 04/17/2012 10:37:29 AM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: Venturer

Hispanics are much more astute about authority, appearances, and becoming a target. Plus, his last name is Zimmerman, not Martinez. Sorry, but that’s how shallow the MSM assumes its audience to be.


15 posted on 04/17/2012 10:38:32 AM PDT by JoanVarga ("Yes We Can" It's not just a slogan. It's a threat.)
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To: nnn0jeh

ping


16 posted on 04/17/2012 10:40:22 AM PDT by kalee (The offenses we give, we write in the dust; Those we take, we engrave in marble. J Huett 1658)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; maggief; kristinn; Cboldt; little jeremiah

FYI


17 posted on 04/17/2012 10:44:13 AM PDT by hoosiermama
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To: JoanVarga
Excellent from the 34-minute mark on. I took the liberty of transcribing an exchange starting around the 41-minute mark. I wish Zimmerman had stayed in contact with these attorney and hadn't started free-lancing by contacting Hannity and others on his own. I understand why they had to withdraw. Hal Uhrig sounds impressive in this exchange - and his command and control is superb.

Hal Uhrig: This is a gun law consistent in about 23 or 24 other states. What is basically says is nothing new. If you are confronted by someone and physically attacked and in reasonable fear for your safety, you're entitled to defend yourself.

The statute has four little . . four stools . . . four legs to that stool. First, you have to be someplace where you're allowed to be. Both of them were. you've gotta be not doing anything illegal. As far as we know both of them were. And you cannot be the first physical aggressor. Not the first "Hey, I want to call you a bad name," or call you mama a bad name. The first physical aggressor. The only evidence and most of the forensics support the fact that that was Trayvon Martin.

When . . when that happens. When that happens . . .

[Reporter interrupts with something unintelligible about mortician]

Let me tell you what the mortician said about Trayvon Martin. What, what he said on his little announcement was, other than the bullet, bullet hole, I didn't find, ah, injuries on Trayvon Martin. I guess he was intending to say, I didn't see the, ah . . .

[Another reporter interrupts with something unintelligible]

Did you want to outshout me? Or did you want to go talk to somebody else?

[Unintelligible response]

I'm answering a question. You can stay out of it. What the, what the mortician said was I didn't see any injuries. [Reporters still murmuring] He didn't have a broken nose. He didn't have scars on the back of his head. [Obnoxious reporters] You won't find any photographs of those. You won't find a witness to come in and say that.

18 posted on 04/17/2012 10:47:11 AM PDT by Scoutmaster (You knew the job was dangerous when you took it)
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To: Scoutmaster; JoanVarga

Silly me. I forgot to mention that Uhrig’s comments were in response to a reporter asking him (well, demanding of him) wasn’t this all because of guns, and wasn’t the gun law a bad law.


19 posted on 04/17/2012 10:49:51 AM PDT by Scoutmaster (You knew the job was dangerous when you took it)
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To: dragnet2
Great video, great attorney!

Unfortunately, these aren't Zimmerman's attorneys any longer.

20 posted on 04/17/2012 10:52:21 AM PDT by Scoutmaster (You knew the job was dangerous when you took it)
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To: Scoutmaster

Thanks, Scoutmaster. I especially liked his schooling on the idea of offensive speech not being an indication of physical aggression. (If it were, the folks in my nabe would all be locked up.)


21 posted on 04/17/2012 10:52:21 AM PDT by JoanVarga ("Yes We Can" It's not just a slogan. It's a threat.)
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To: mick

me too


22 posted on 04/17/2012 10:56:28 AM PDT by stylin19a
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To: Scoutmaster; JoanVarga
Which came first:

1. Broken nose, concussion, abrasions on back of head.

2. Gun shot wound. No other wounds

SO which was the first aggressor?

Case closed.

23 posted on 04/17/2012 11:00:26 AM PDT by hoosiermama
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To: Scoutmaster
"Hal Uhrig sounds impressive in this exchange - and his command and control is superb."

Agreed. I was looking forward to seeing this guy in action.

24 posted on 04/17/2012 11:01:53 AM PDT by moehoward
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To: JoanVarga

This retired detective Sergeant, with 30 years of service, stands with Zimmerman.

This is a racist and politically driven lynching of an innocent man that took the only reasonable option available to him, while he was suffering grievous bodily harm and only when he recognized that he was about to die.

He only had one other option.... accept his own death. I would bet that Zimmerman did NOT want to kill this punk, he simply wanted to stop the threat..... and live.

If I were in the same situation, the bad guy better hope that in the ‘split seconds’ that I have to make a decision, that I figure out an alternative.... or he is likely going to die.


25 posted on 04/17/2012 11:02:38 AM PDT by Gator113 (***YOU GAVE it to Obama. I would have voted for NEWT.~Just livin' life, my way~)
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To: JoanVarga

He should have kept this attorney.

Who was the camera dude in the red/brownish t-shirt and who in the audience was he filming?


26 posted on 04/17/2012 11:04:01 AM PDT by bgill
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To: Scoutmaster

Yes, I realized that now, and should have before commenting...This is what I get for trying to perform other tasks while reading this article at the same time.


27 posted on 04/17/2012 11:07:52 AM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: JoanVarga

Now that’s vigorous representation: “There is NO evidence, whatsoever, from the time that the earth cooled, to right this minute, that George Zimmerman is a racist...”


28 posted on 04/17/2012 11:09:45 AM PDT by jiggyboy (Ten percent of poll respondents are either lying or insane)
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To: jiggyboy

Made me snorfle! *puts drink down*


29 posted on 04/17/2012 11:13:22 AM PDT by JoanVarga ("Yes We Can" It's not just a slogan. It's a threat.)
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To: Spunky

It’s well worth watching the entire presser, but it is especially instructional from about the 25 minute mark onward.


30 posted on 04/17/2012 11:15:49 AM PDT by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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To: JoanVarga

bttt


31 posted on 04/17/2012 11:18:11 AM PDT by advertising guy (Sarah just jumped..........game on boys.)
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To: JoanVarga; Gosh I love this neighborhood

Very interesting.


32 posted on 04/17/2012 11:21:29 AM PDT by GILTN1stborn
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To: Scoutmaster
wasn’t this all because of guns, and wasn’t the gun law a bad law

Because, "shut up," they explained. "It's about OUR narrative, not justice!"

33 posted on 04/17/2012 11:46:37 AM PDT by JoanVarga ("Yes We Can" It's not just a slogan. It's a threat.)
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To: JoanVarga

Thank you for posting this. It does my heart good to hear this man speak.You provided a good service posting.


34 posted on 04/17/2012 11:54:41 AM PDT by Tomato lover
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To: advertising guy

Thanks for the bump!


35 posted on 04/17/2012 11:55:19 AM PDT by JoanVarga ("Yes We Can" It's not just a slogan. It's a threat.)
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To: Tomato lover

I’ve listened to the short clip three times now. It’s just refreshing to hear a man speak to the monolithic media in a way that cannot be misunderstood.


36 posted on 04/17/2012 12:00:41 PM PDT by JoanVarga ("Yes We Can" It's not just a slogan. It's a threat.)
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To: hoosiermama; JoanVarga
SO which was the first aggressor?

At this point, I'm going to play Devil's Advocate, merely so people will know what they may expect if they make the argument about Martin being the aggressor. Remember, this is only a test of the FR Broadcasting System.

"Yeah? But what if Zimmerman pointed his gun at Martin first? That's assault with a deadly weapon! HE was the first aggressor!"

End of test.

Note that saying Zimmerman had the handgun drawn is not only jumping to conclusions, but it's contrary to what we've been told is Zimmerman's story - that part of the wrestling on the ground including wrestling for a holstered handgun.

I'm a little concerned with how narrow Uhrig's definition of 'aggressor' is, but he's the one who knows Florida law. He said 'physical.' Don't know what he would say if Zimmerman did, in fact, point a handgun first. As I understand common law and as I read Florida common law and statutes, that would be little 'a' assault (a common law tort), and quite likely capital 'A' criminal Assault (Florida Statutes 784.011), and double caps criminal Aggravated Assault (Florida Statutes 784.021). Assuming, of course, something not in evidence (and we're told contradicted by Zimmerman): Zimmerman pointing a handgun first, without provocation and legal defense to do so.

37 posted on 04/17/2012 12:02:13 PM PDT by Scoutmaster (You knew the job was dangerous when you took it)
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To: Scoutmaster

The youngster’s don’t understand the concept of “devil’s advocate” anymore.

However, an unarmed teen facing a man with a drawn handgun is not likely to pummel him in the face and sit on top of him, providing a handy target. Plus, he would need both hands to slam Zimm’s head into the sidewalk, meaning he was not wrestling for a gun. He didn’t know there was a gun at that point.


38 posted on 04/17/2012 12:12:28 PM PDT by JoanVarga ("Yes We Can" It's not just a slogan. It's a threat.)
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To: JoanVarga

No, thank you for posting this video.


39 posted on 04/17/2012 12:14:06 PM PDT by Scoutmaster (You knew the job was dangerous when you took it)
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To: MHGinTN; JoanVarga
I just finished watching. I don't know why George Zimmerman released these lawyers, but if I had a lawyer that kept calling me GEORGE MARTIN I would get rid of them.
40 posted on 04/17/2012 12:16:24 PM PDT by Spunky
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To: Scoutmaster

A man holding a gun is not going to be decked in the nose and end up on his back in the grass with his head being pounded repeatedly on the sidewalk.....If he had pulled his gun he would have been holding it when the police arrived and Trayvon would still be alive.

The devil looses .......again.


41 posted on 04/17/2012 12:20:31 PM PDT by hoosiermama
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To: JoanVarga
I can't get over that lady who kept pressing for almost twenty minutes about how Zimmerman could have gotten the address from condos on the OTHER side of the street, or whether addresses where available on another side of the buildings, or why Zimmerman had to go toward the buildings to get the address, and so forth, and so on. And she keeps going like the Energizer Bunny no matter how many times Uhrig points out that Zimmerman had the address and was headed back to his car.

Uhrig had another interesting quote when addressing the reporter who demanded that he say (it wasn't really a question to Uhrig) that this was all about guns and the law was a 'bad law' (I'm looking at my dogs as I type this: 'bad law. bad.' One of them is staring back at me: "What did I do?"). Uhrig said, at around 42:50:

"If you take the guns away from the good people, then the punks and thugs know you're unarmed and it's open season."

42 posted on 04/17/2012 12:24:12 PM PDT by Scoutmaster (You knew the job was dangerous when you took it)
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To: Spunky
I know. Twice he called him Martin. But you can't fault much else about him.

Hell, as the last of eight kids, my own mother rarely got my name right. My first name.

43 posted on 04/17/2012 12:29:21 PM PDT by JoanVarga ("Yes We Can" It's not just a slogan. It's a threat.)
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To: Scoutmaster
And she keeps going like the Energizer Bunny

This is what they are taught in J-school: get in their face! Forget the 5 questions, jam the narrative and talking points.

The Fifth Column is made up entirely of the Fourth Estate. It all adds up to the 9th Circle of Hell.

44 posted on 04/17/2012 12:47:22 PM PDT by JoanVarga ("Yes We Can" It's not just a slogan. It's a threat.)
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To: JoanVarga

That was worth the time to listen. Thanks.


45 posted on 04/17/2012 1:08:51 PM PDT by Jaded (Really? Seriously?)
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To: JoanVarga

Great arithmetic! Love it, detest the fact.


46 posted on 04/17/2012 1:21:44 PM PDT by Avoiding_Sulla (How humanitarian are "leaders" who back Malthusian, Utilitarian & Green nutcases?)
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To: Avoiding_Sulla

I was told there would be no math . . .

:o)


47 posted on 04/17/2012 1:25:02 PM PDT by JoanVarga ("Yes We Can" It's not just a slogan. It's a threat.)
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To: Avoiding_Sulla

p for L


48 posted on 04/17/2012 1:27:28 PM PDT by MarineMom613 (RIP Sandra Sue, my fur baby 12/31/1999 ~ 7/2/2010 - See you on the other side!)
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To: Gator113

Well stated.


49 posted on 04/17/2012 1:32:53 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: JoanVarga

Watched the short version. This guy lays it out in clear concise terms. Thanks.


50 posted on 04/17/2012 1:48:11 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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