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Trial of George Zimmerman Could Trigger Another Rodney King
The Daily Beast ^ | April 18, 2012 | Mansfield Frazier

Posted on 04/17/2012 11:27:43 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

Trayvon Martin’s shooter has a new lawyer. Mansfield Frazier hopes he’s advising his client to take a plea, since a protracted murder trial is the last thing we need.

As George Zimmerman faces murder charges for shooting Trayvon Martin, it’s worth asking if America is in danger of facing Rodney King, Part II?

That’s what I see down the tracks: If this case goes all the way to trial, it’s a train wreck waiting to happen. The time is now for strong hands to take the helm and steady the ship of state—not to mention our national racial, political and legal discourse. The paramount concern has to be to avert a large-scale racial calamity.

As Touré recently wrote, if sane adults are not careful, deliberate and measured in the handling of the Trayvon Martin-George Zimmerman affair, a dark time could descend upon America.

Look what’s already festering on the streets of Sanford, Florida. On the one hand we’ve got the three stooges of the New Black Panther Party running around Sanford, spouting off crazy ideas and becoming a total embarrassment to more thoughtful and reasoning blacks who simply want justice. On the other we’ve got the equally clownish neo-Nazis, goose-stepping around on their self-appointed mission to protect the white race. In this environment it wouldn’t take much to ignite the racial power keg we’re sitting on. One false or ill-conceived move in this case could allow the loony inmates—not Zimmerman’s current neighbors, but those who are imprisoned by their long-simmering racial hatreds—to fan the incendiary flames of bigotry into full-blown conflagrations of violence across the land.

As someone who watched the King riots unfold from a Los Angeles motel window (and sometimes from the balcony, when we weren’t too afraid to venture out), I’m here to tell you it was a nightmarish time. Thick, acrid black smoke from hundreds of fires hung over the L.A. basin for days as young, armed blacks and Hispanics roared around in open convertibles and jeeps, wearing bandannas and brandishing all sorts of weaponry. We could hear gunfire both in the distance and nearby. Stores that hadn’t been set on fire the first day were looted by the second, and by the third day TV stations were warning of an impending food shortage. A body lay in the gutter on Crenshaw Boulevard for the better part of two days before National Guard troops removed it.

We don’t want to go back there. Fortunately Zimmerman’s new attorney, Mark O’Mara, appears to comprehend the broader implications and potential danger of the situation, and seems well qualified to negotiate a fair outcome for his client, and indeed for the rest of us. He has the calm demeanor of a law professor, and speaks in measured, but not calculating, terms. His first comments seemed designed not to convince anyone of his client’s innocence, but rather to take the heated rhetoric down a few notches. He cautioned that everyone should allow the justice system to work.

So what would a fair outcome look like? To my mind, the government offers Zimmerman a plea deal that has him back on the street within this decade, and he accepts it quietly. That seems like a conclusion most reasonable Americans could live with. Of course, no matter how long or short any sentence may be, there will be those who disagree, some vehemently.

If O’Mara were successful in brokering such a resolution, he should be viewed as nothing less than a savior. A protracted murder trial of George Zimmerman is the last thing this country needs right now. America can only dodge so many racial bullets, and a not-guilty verdict in this case could very easily turn the racial cold war into a very hot one.

Of course, for such a plea scenario to work, Zimmerman will need to listen more to O’Mara than to any of the other voices clamoring for a piece of him. He’s in isolation right now, presumably for his own safety, but a side benefit is that it keeps the more rabid right-wingers from getting inside his head and convincing him to take the case to trial, based on the belief that no matter what the evidence shows, in Florida at least one juror will never vote to convict. Unfortunately, this reasoning is not crazy. The South, after all, is still the South.

But after a few weeks of isolation and the counsel of O’Mara, Zimmerman may decide going to trial isn’t in his best interest. If O’Mara is as savvy as he seems, he will probably inform his client of the stark legal facts: The state overcharged him with murder 2 for two reasons: it’s a bargaining chip to force him to accept a lesser charge, and a means to keep him locked up pretrial. The way the legal system is designed, it’s difficult for someone being held in custody to win acquittal. Even if he went to trial and managed to get a hung jury, the state would surely retry him (multiple times, if necessary), until they get a conviction or he’s spent more time in the county lockup than he would have spent in prison if he’d just pleaded guilty in the first place. And even if he were acquitted, let’s not forget the specter of a federal indictment being handed down.

In all of this, the upcoming bail hearing is key: If the judge doesn’t grant bail, Zimmerman had better start listening real intently to his lawyer.

The wild card is his father, Robert, who has so far sounded like a knee-jerk far-right ideologue. In an interview he said, "I never foresaw so much hate coming from the president, the Congressional Black Caucus, the NAACP," and this was before Obama said anything about the case! It will be virtually impossible to keep Robert Zimmerman away from his son, which means he’ll have ample opportunity to whisper Stand Your Ground rhetoric into his ear, possibly ginning up Zimmerman’s courage and convincing him to go to trial in spite of the danger of being convicted.

We all need to pray that Mark O’Mara is successful in bringing about a fair outcome for his client, for justice, and, more important, for America.



TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Editorial; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: cw2; cwii; florida; georgezimmerman; raceriots; racewar; trayvonmartin; zimmerman
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To: Third Person

Look for Mansfield Frazier’s next column... Everyone Vote Obama to Avoid Riots!


101 posted on 04/18/2012 5:39:05 AM PDT by Third Person
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To: TYVets

“They would find it was not be Reginald Denny types facing them.”

The Reginald Denny types will be exactly who the black racists will target. There are smatterings of white progressive liberals living in government-subsidized lofts in the big cities and also working there. They are our canaries in the coal mine. When they start going down - shot, beat and raped - that will embolden the savages, thinking they can move into the suburbs and get whitey.

That’s when they meet people who are not Reginald Denny.


102 posted on 04/18/2012 5:43:37 AM PDT by sergeantdave
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To: Olog-hai
"Rodney King riots" and excuse to loot!

Exo 23:2 Thou shalt not follow a multitude to do evil; neither shalt thou speak in a cause to decline after many to wrest judgment:

103 posted on 04/18/2012 5:46:41 AM PDT by the_daug
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Hey, Mansfield Frazier you are an A$$. If the black community must riot then they will have to suffer the consequences’ of their actions. Railroading a innocent man is not justice.


104 posted on 04/18/2012 5:49:10 AM PDT by Ratman83
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To: maxwellsmart_agent

Nix that last reply, seems the purchase has been confirmed.

Given his history of possession of known illegal stuff, does not bode well that the question had to be asked.


105 posted on 04/18/2012 5:55:58 AM PDT by ctdonath2 ($1 meals: http://abuckaplate.blogspot.com/)
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To: Olog-hai

Wasn’t George Herbert Walker Bush Defender-in-Chief of Rodney King?


106 posted on 04/18/2012 5:58:32 AM PDT by Theodore R. (Past is prologue: The American people again let us down in this election cycle.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
So what would a fair outcome look like? To my mind, the government offers Zimmerman a plea deal that has him back on the street within this decade, and he accepts it quietly. That seems like a conclusion most reasonable Americans could live with.

I am very reasonable, and if I were George Zimmerman, I wouldn't accept a plea deal for something that I didn't do.

It was either self defense or not.

If self defense, he should walk, if not, go to jail.

As far I riots are concerned, the threat of black thugs burning our homes should not deter us from seeking justice.

The black thugs should think twice before taking that kind of action, because this is not 1969.

107 posted on 04/18/2012 6:01:29 AM PDT by USS Alaska (Nuke the terrorists savages.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Well, if ever an article needed a “Barf Alert!” this was it...

“The paramount concern has to be to avert a large-scale racial calamity.”

Absolutely not. The paramount concern is something called “justice”. I hope in the instance climate this has brought about it’s still possible...

I think a trial is EXACTLY what’s called for.


108 posted on 04/18/2012 6:02:03 AM PDT by PreciousLiberty (Pray for America!!!)
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To: Billthedrill

These people preach on ‘social justice’ but in reality, they mean, ‘Just Us’.

Sacrifice the ‘white’ man to appease the natives. This is nothing more than payback for the number of blacks jailed for crimes they committed and this low IQ freak projecting a lie to make himself feel better about the color he is.


109 posted on 04/18/2012 6:08:57 AM PDT by Cowgirl of Justice
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To: bert
Black people will become undesirable and unemployable liabilities.

It has already happened to one Little Rock Business this week. 1/3 of their workforce that day either is dead or conspired to commit murder. Read the affidavit at the source, a half-dozen co-workers told LRPD that they heard the perps conspire for WEEKS TO ROB THEIR EMPLOYER AND MURDER JESUS because he called them out on their poor work ethic!

Various chat rooms in Little Rock are people talking about not trusting blacks under their employment that are "known troublemakers", i.e. on cellphone at work, constantly tardy, "dragging ass" at work, not giving a damn, no work ethic, calling in sick, trying to get "Kwanza" off, etc.

Anyways, here is article on Little Rock's "Hoodie on Hispanic" crime.

May the victim, Jesus, rest in peace!


110 posted on 04/18/2012 6:25:20 AM PDT by DCBryan1 (Tagline removed at the request of someone who doesn't "get" Monty Python or Shakespeare.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

If one wants to get active about racists killing people, for the life of me I can’t figure out why the hyper-active excitement about the Sanford Florida case, which seems quite slim, and the silence Tulsa, Oklahoma case, which seems a lot more substantial?


111 posted on 04/18/2012 6:35:51 AM PDT by cookcounty (We need Newt. The Black Belt Jaw-jitsu Master!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Seems our esteemed columnist wants George Zimmerman to be a modern-day Harry Morant.
112 posted on 04/18/2012 6:36:48 AM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: Travis McGee

Does this guy work for the same outfit (Daily Beast) that J.M. Berger works for?


113 posted on 04/18/2012 6:44:01 AM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: shibumi

I knew I’d be sorry if I clicked that...and yet I clicked it anyway.


114 posted on 04/18/2012 6:51:18 AM PDT by Salamander (Hey blood brother, you're one of our own. You're as sharp as a razor and as hard as a stone.)
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To: SF_Redux

Sure, throw Zimmerman under the bus to keep the blacks from rioting. Outragous! I hate those lawyers who play with other peoples lives. Ever listen to a “public defender”? They will encourage all their clients to take a plea so they (the lawyers) don’t have to work to prove their client innocent. (Yes, it’s supposed to be “innocent until proven guilty”...NOT!) Happens all the time.

Getting Zimmerman to plead will not stop the riots. The black’s don’t need a reason to riot, they will do it at the drop of a hat. They have NO control over the emosions and I have said that before. They go off for the least and slightest of reason. The riots are just sitting there waiting to start. Does anyone think our dear leader will try to keep that from happening? Buy lots of ammo then lock and load.


115 posted on 04/18/2012 7:06:03 AM PDT by DaveA37
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To: SF_Redux

Sure, throw Zimmerman under the bus to keep the blacks from rioting. Outragous! I hate those lawyers who play with other peoples lives. Ever listen to a “public defender”? They will encourage all their clients to take a plea so they (the lawyers) don’t have to work to prove their client innocent. (Yes, it’s supposed to be “innocent until proven guilty”...NOT!) Happens all the time.

Getting Zimmerman to plead will not stop the riots. The black’s don’t need a reason to riot, they will do it at the drop of a hat. They have NO control over the emosions and I have said that before. They go off for the least and slightest of reason. The riots are just sitting there waiting to start. Does anyone think our dear leader will try to keep that from happening? Buy lots of ammo then lock and load.


116 posted on 04/18/2012 7:06:07 AM PDT by DaveA37
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To: SF_Redux

Sure, throw Zimmerman under the bus to keep the blacks from rioting. Outragous! I hate those lawyers who play with other peoples lives. Ever listen to a “public defender”? They will encourage all their clients to take a plea so they (the lawyers) don’t have to work to prove their client innocent. (Yes, it’s supposed to be “innocent until proven guilty”...NOT!) Happens all the time.

Getting Zimmerman to plead will not stop the riots. The black’s don’t need a reason to riot, they will do it at the drop of a hat. They have NO control over the emosions and I have said that before. They go off for the least and slightest of reason. The riots are just sitting there waiting to start. Does anyone think our dear leader will try to keep that from happening? Buy lots of ammo then lock and load.


117 posted on 04/18/2012 7:06:41 AM PDT by DaveA37
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak out and remove all doubt.”


118 posted on 04/18/2012 7:31:54 AM PDT by Jaded (Really? Seriously?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
"The paramount concern has to be to avert a large-scale racial calamity.”

Maybe in SA or Zimbabwe you race baiting POS.

FUMF

119 posted on 04/18/2012 7:34:20 AM PDT by SZonian (Throwing our allegiances to political party's in the long run gave away our liberty.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; All
While the Zimmerman/Martin ‘white’ on black killing is covered 24/7 on the MSM with an outpouring of rage and charges of a racial hate crime, where is the concern- where is the rage about the home invasion, torture, beating, rape and murder of the elderly white couple by a gang of feral blacks in Oklahoma just a few weeks ago?

The 90 year old war veteran husband was beaten and his jaw broken. He was shot in the face numerous times with a BB gun and sent to the hospital in critical condition.

The 85 year old partially blind wife was RAPED and then BEATEN TO DEATH.

Can you just imagine the pain, the humiliation, the horror that dear old lady experienced being gang raped by that pack of feral animals?

(the autopsy states she was raped. Don’t think all of these animals didn’t all participate)

And can you imagine the pain, the horror of that dear old husband having to witness this?

There’s a lot more involved here than a home invasion and robbery.

WHERE ARE THE CHARGES OF A RACIAL HATE CRIME??

90 year old husband’s jaw broken and shot in face with a BB gun numerous times?

85 wife year old semi blind wife RAPED and BEATEN to death??

Why does it take a foreign press to enlighten America as to this henious crime?

WHERE IS THE NATIONAL OUTRAGE?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2117695/Brutal-home-invasion-Oklahoma-couple-ends-65-year-romance-meeting-blind-date.html

__________________________

They have arrested one. Have they caught the rest of the gang of feral blacks who raped, tortured and murdered this elderly woman? Are they even looking? Not a word about it in the media.

120 posted on 04/18/2012 7:39:32 AM PDT by patriot08 (TEXAS GAL- born and bred and proud of it!)
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To: SamuraiScot
Is this a column or a blackmail note?

It's blackmail. Crucify anyone they name or they will riot.

121 posted on 04/18/2012 7:42:35 AM PDT by DNA.2012
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Sorry Mr. Frazier, you're a concern troll. You want Zimmerman to take a plea for fear there will be riots? As an American, you should understand that our system of justice doesn't work that way. If it did, OJ wouldn't have gotten off. How about you channel your “concern” into responsibility and go out into your community and teach your fellow man how to behave like a civilized people? Additionally, Florida is a State that relies heavily on its tourism industry. If you think my State will allow you and your people to drive that industry away because you need to railroad someone for the sake of your race hustling industry, you are mistaken. This ain't Kali.
122 posted on 04/18/2012 7:46:21 AM PDT by liberalh8ter (If Barack has a memory like a steel trap, why can't he remember what the Constitution says?)
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To: SWAMPSNIPER

In 2012, the word “justice” has been twisted to mean “whatever special protected groups want”.


123 posted on 04/18/2012 7:47:11 AM PDT by DNA.2012
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To: RWB Patriot
when was the last time anyone trembled in fear at the prospect of whites rioting over a simple court verdict?

Whites don't riot over court verdicts. To do so would be uncivilized, and only an uncivilized group would do that.

124 posted on 04/18/2012 7:52:23 AM PDT by DNA.2012
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
"So what would a fair outcome look like? To my mind, the government offers Zimmerman a plea deal that has him back on the street within this decade, and he accepts it quietly. That seems like a conclusion most reasonable Americans could live with."

I reject your absurd, race baiting, threatening premise and you can consider me one of the "unreasonable" ones you POS.

125 posted on 04/18/2012 7:56:34 AM PDT by SZonian (Throwing our allegiances to political party's in the long run gave away our liberty.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
This is the problem when you have newspaper and media arschlochs thinking they are attorneys.

Mark O'Mara's job, and he'll tell you this himself, is to represent the best interest of his client. Anything else is malpractice. His job is not to satisfy you, me, or the peanut gallery. His job is to portray the different scenarios to his client and follow his wishes. If that means a trial, then go to trial. If that means a plea, then take a plea.

126 posted on 04/18/2012 7:59:42 AM PDT by Darren McCarty (The Republican Party is bigger than the presidency)
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To: reagandemocrat
I personally witnessed courageous Koreans protecting their stores; I have a pictue of the LA riots on my wall.

I'm just sorry they didn't have Steyr AUG's to wave around instead of those Glocks and Rugers.

And maybe a Barrett.

127 posted on 04/18/2012 8:00:21 AM PDT by lentulusgracchus
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To: Billthedrill
To my mind, the fellow has the fair trial he's entitled to.....

Unless he's entitled to dismissal of the charges instead, on the strength of his self-defense right and the Stand Your Ground law.

128 posted on 04/18/2012 8:03:32 AM PDT by lentulusgracchus
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To: Quickgun

Black on White crime is not treated as a “hate crime”.


129 posted on 04/18/2012 8:08:58 AM PDT by DNA.2012
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To: RFEngineer
Zimmerman will walk and there will be untold numbers of Reginald Denny reenactments (that’s the only likely parallel to the LA riots) as whites are massacred by blacks as targets of opportunity.

Attack the wrong person, and they'll be picking out .45 holes from their carcasses.

130 posted on 04/18/2012 8:09:51 AM PDT by Darren McCarty (The Republican Party is bigger than the presidency)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
The soldier at right in the portrait appears to be an approximation of a Roman soldier rather than a Herodian one .... in which case he'd be wearing traditional Judaean armor and headgear.

As a Roman, he'd be wearing (rather than as shown) a Coolus C or E helmet, in bronze, probably without crest on fatigue or garrison duty, and a dark-brown paludamentum (cloak) of semicircular pattern, in dark-brown wool, over his Gaulish-pattern thigh-length chain-mail hauberk with Greek-type shoulder doublings ("straps"). He probably wouldn't carry a pilum, but more likely a hasta longa while in garrison, and would wear a gladius Hispanus (short sword) from the right side of his swordbelt and a pugio (fighting dirk) or utility knife on the other side. He would be shod with caligae, military open-toed boots with hobnailed soles, and he would carry a semi-rectangular scutum with squared-off Augustan bottom and top, if he were a legionary, or a round or elliptical clipeus if he were an auxiliary infantryman. Underneath, he'd be wearing a subcingaculum or armored loincloth, with heavy ends hanging down fore and aft with metal studs, woven of a heavy byssos of tightly-weft linen, which would impart many of the qualities, and much of the protection against cuts and thrusts, of modern Kevlar cloth.

131 posted on 04/18/2012 8:17:11 AM PDT by lentulusgracchus
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To: Sir_Humphrey
The days of the docile Caucasian are coming to a close.

Technically I'm not Caucasian, but the docile white has only been around since the late 60's in some quarters, and the mid 1980's for Irish and Italians.

It can't end too soon.

132 posted on 04/18/2012 8:17:11 AM PDT by Darren McCarty (The Republican Party is bigger than the presidency)
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To: Darren McCarty
It can't end too soon.

Let me get my shotguns patterned, okay?

133 posted on 04/18/2012 8:23:55 AM PDT by lentulusgracchus
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To: RFEngineer
Unfortunately for the idiot author, Zimmerman’s attorney represents Zimmerman. If somehow he tries to weigh the interests of anyone else over those of his client he should be disbarred.

Just on the strength of this liberal scribbler's mumbled hope that Zimmermann's lawyer will, ahem, "grow", and lift his eyes above the mundane to the necessary blah, blah, blah .... i.o.w. sell his client down the river, I would hope that Alan Dershowitz will show up momentarily with brief in hand -- as amicus curiae if nothing else. If the first chair won't take second fiddle to the more zealous and effective defender, then maybe an amicus would be the way to go. Are amici allowed in criminal trials?

Anyone?

134 posted on 04/18/2012 8:30:07 AM PDT by lentulusgracchus
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Zim should plead guilty to littering for failure to police his brass.


135 posted on 04/18/2012 9:01:55 AM PDT by Dedbone
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To: LadyDoc

According to the article and your statement, I am correct in saying that it is better for George Zimmerman to go to prison, even if he is innocent and killed Trayvon is self defense? Has this country come to the point to where all Americans would be willing to let an innocent man go to prison just to satisfy the radical blacks in this country? Is this country going to bow down to this? Then we would be no better than the citizens in the Middle East who let the Taliban and other radical Muslims take over their towns. How could we live with ourselves knowing we let such an injustice happen. Radical blacks such as the new black panthers will cause riots if they can no matter what. Their is no stopping what is coming. It may not happen this year or next, but this country is a simmering pot of hatred just boiling and waiting to explode. Sacrificing a man without a proper trial will not stop the inevitable. I wish it were not, but I see how our society is getting worse. All good Christians should pray for our country.


136 posted on 04/18/2012 9:06:58 AM PDT by PoesRaven2
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To: DNA.2012

Thank you. I fear for my family, not from other races, but because IF they were to ever be arrested, I fear they could be sacrificed and imprisoned even if innocent. If it happens to one person, than it could happen again. Why? Because the NAACP and all the others who signed the petition to arrest Zimmerman would know they have the power to control our legal system. We would no longer be governed by the law but by the fear that certain factions in our society will riot. I love this country but I would be ashamed to call myself an American if we bow to the masses on this matter.


137 posted on 04/18/2012 9:07:05 AM PDT by PoesRaven2
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Does anyone else see the parallel between this situation and the Islamist threats? It seems to me that the race pimps are just trying to soften us up, and get us to lie down and take it to avoid riots, so that the Muslims can finish us off.

For what it's worth, I don't think it matters what the outcome of this is. There will be riots no matter what happens in the legal system.

138 posted on 04/18/2012 9:10:18 AM PDT by Aunt Polgara
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To: patriot08

An awful story, but when I went to the article, I didn’t see anything about about the woman being raped. What was your source on that part?


139 posted on 04/18/2012 9:10:54 AM PDT by Marko413
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Guilty or innocent of 2nd degree murder, Zimmerman has been chosen as a sacrifice to black America. A little less obvious than dragging him up to the top of a volcano, but the same result for him in the end.

The churning black underclass and those in the political class that subsist on that anger and resentment, must be fed.


140 posted on 04/18/2012 9:14:59 AM PDT by Jay Santos CP ("Idiocracy"... It's no longer just a movie.)
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To: Salamander

Kenya, maybe.


141 posted on 04/18/2012 9:40:45 AM PDT by Slings and Arrows (You can't have Ingsoc without an Emmanuel Goldstein.)
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To: Marko413

“An 85-year-old woman was sexually assaulted and battered to death by a home invader who also shot her 90-year-old husband in the face with a BB gun.”

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2117695/Brutal-home-invasion-Oklahoma-couple-ends-65-year-romance-meeting-blind-date.html#ixzz1sPh4y9me


142 posted on 04/18/2012 10:22:21 AM PDT by patriot08 (TEXAS GAL- born and bred and proud of it!)
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To: reagandemocrat

MAYOR Tom Bradley & “Rep.” Maxine Waters stood in the AME church in Inglewood and said:

“NO JUSTICE—NO PEACE!!”

I never did understand why they both were not indicted for inciting a riot.

Bradley was one of the most corrupt persons this country has ever had and no one dared say a word because he was black. His daughter was a life-long crinimal, also. He did his best to keep her record hidden....


143 posted on 04/18/2012 10:22:31 AM PDT by ridesthemiles
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To: Marko413

http://search.yahoo.com/search?p=elderly+tulsa+woman+raped+in+home+invasion&fr=chr-tyc8


144 posted on 04/18/2012 10:24:08 AM PDT by patriot08 (TEXAS GAL- born and bred and proud of it!)
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To: Ken H

AMEN
Nothing like an ‘unbiased’ opinion, is there???

Move the trial out of Florida—maybe to Laramie, Wyoming, and then see what kind of verdict they get.

Keep the names of all the jurors secret for the next 50 years.

If jackie Kennedy can keep secrets about her husband’s assassination secret for 50 years, so can we.


145 posted on 04/18/2012 10:25:28 AM PDT by ridesthemiles
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I don’t see one single reason for Zimmerman to accept any kind of a plea deal or any amount of prison time.


146 posted on 04/18/2012 10:26:46 AM PDT by ridesthemiles
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To: abishai

Loved these guys.

I worked at Washington & Vermont when the earlier Watts riots happened. Had to go to work or not get paid.

Scary stuff. One black tried to toss a grenade down the air conditioning ducts onto the 2nd floor where about 80 of us were working.

Shots—multiple-— fired. Grenade guy dead. Shooter was our maintenance guy—who had survived Hitler. No charges of any kind.

I was there that day & I can still hear the shots & the running footsteps.


147 posted on 04/18/2012 10:33:50 AM PDT by ridesthemiles
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To: Little Ray

We should use the upcoming riots as an opportunity to eliminate the worst elements of American society.
I mean, they’re right there - self-identified, and self-convicted, right? Bring out the automatic weapons, the millions of rounds of ammo and the AFVs those police departments have acquired...”””

AMEN

Many are getting prepared. They are convinced that Obama is trying to destroy this country & fomenting a black on white race war is something he thinks he can manipulate & escape from himself.

Maybe-——Maybe not.


148 posted on 04/18/2012 10:41:40 AM PDT by ridesthemiles
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Does this man, no matter how “well intentioned” he may be (I’m giving him the benefit of the doubt) not realise that it is NOT justice of any kind to hand down a sentence, whatever it may be, based upon the threat that blacks may riot and loot of it’s not enough to their liking? What if nothing less than the death penalty will do? How is it “justice” to base a legal outcome on threats of violence? Will whites get the same opportunity to influence an outcome -say, in the appeal of the Channon/Newsome case if we don’t like the verdict or the sentence? What does that do to our legal system forever after?


149 posted on 04/18/2012 12:18:14 PM PDT by mrsmel
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To: maxwellsmart_agent

They never existed. It was just something someone in Trayvon Martin’s family claimed he had.


150 posted on 04/18/2012 12:20:46 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (Ich habe keinen Konig aber Gott)
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