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Confederate Memorial Day in Dixie
Huntington News ^ | April 17, 2012 | Calvin E. Johnson, Jr.

Posted on 04/19/2012 3:34:29 PM PDT by BigReb555

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To: Ditto

The South is the most conservative part of the country. I can see that all the from Ohio dumbass! Why don’t you take your liberal trype to DU. They’ll love you for it there.


41 posted on 04/26/2012 10:37:32 AM PDT by ohioman
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To: Ditto
The South is the most conservative part of the country. I can see that all the WAY from OHIO dumbass! Why don't you take your liberal tripe to DU. They'll love you for it there. I (Like most on FR) honor those who fought on both sides of the war. They were ALL Americans.
42 posted on 04/26/2012 10:39:21 AM PDT by ohioman
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To: ohioman

Wow. That was such a cleaver comment you figured it was worth posting twice. < /s >


43 posted on 04/27/2012 6:51:17 AM PDT by Ditto (Nov 2, 2010 -- Partial cleaning accomplished. More trash to remove in 2012)
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To: Ditto

Well, you can bet that most on FR agree with me.


44 posted on 04/30/2012 5:48:23 AM PDT by ohioman
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To: CatherineofAragon
We should remember that slavery existed in the North, too. It just ended sooner.

That to is a myth!

Mr. Lincoln's emancipation only freed slave in areas he had no control over.

45 posted on 04/30/2012 5:56:59 AM PDT by Bigun ("The most fearsome words in the English language are I'm from the government and I'm here to help!")
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To: BigReb555

BTTT


46 posted on 04/30/2012 6:03:06 AM PDT by SharpRightTurn ( White, black, and red all over--America's affirmative action, metrosexual president.)
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To: ladyjane
There were many many brave Confederate soldiers who fought to retain the rights of their states over the rights of the federal government.

Yes, the completely bogus "right" to own another human being as chattel.

What a noble, noble cause.

47 posted on 04/30/2012 6:10:41 AM PDT by Hemingway's Ghost (Spirit of '75)
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To: jmacusa
You want to talk about revisionist history? OK! Let do that!

St. George Tucker. Ever heard of him? Well since I know the answer to that question I'll just tell you who he was, what he did , and what he had to say about a few things.

St. George Tucker was a noted legal scholar and Jurist who published (1803) a 5 volume work that was THE law book in every school of law in the country for 50 years and NO ONE is on record disputing anything in it for all of that period of time.

Here are a couple of things he had to say about states and their rights in that great work!

Although the federal government can, in no possible view, be considered as a party to a compact made anterior to its existence, and by which it was, in fact, created; yet as the creature of that compact, it must be bound by it, to its creators, the several states in the union, and the citizens thereof. Having no existence but under the constitution, nor any rights, but such as that instrument confers; and those very rights being in fact duties; it can possess no legitimate power, but such, as is absolutely necessary for the performance of a duty, prescribed and enjoined by the constitution. Its duties, then, become the exact measure of its powers; and wherever it exerts a power for any other purpose, than the performance of a duty prescribed by the constitution, it transgresses its proper limits, and violates the public trust. Its duties, being moreover imposed for the general benefit and security of the several states, in their politic character; and of the people, both in their sovereign, and individual capacity, if these objects be not obtained, the government will not answer the end of its creation: it is therefore bound to the several states, respectively, and to every citizen thereof, for the due execution of those duties. And the observance of this obligation is enforced, by the solemn sanction of an oath, from all who administer the government.

The constitution of the United States, then being that instrument by which the federal government hath been created; its powers defined, and limited; and the duties, and functions of its several departments prescribed; the government, thus established, may be pronounced to be a confederate republic, composed of several independent, and sovereign democratic states, united for their common defence, and security against foreign nations, and for the purposes of harmony, and mutual intercourse between each other; each state retaining an entire liberty of exercising, as it thinks proper, all those parts of its sovereignty, which are not mentioned in the constitution, or act of union, as parts that ought to be exercised in common. It is the supreme law of the land, and as such binding upon the federal government; the several states; and finally upon all the citizens of the United States.... It can not be controlled, or altered without the express consent of the body politic of three fourths of the states in the union, or, of the people, of an equal number of the states. To prevent the necessity of an immediate appeal to the latter, a method is pointed out, by which amendments may be proposed and ratified by the concurrent act of two thirds of both houses of congress, and three fourths of the state legislatures: but if congress should neglect to propose amendments in this way, when they may be deemed necessary, the concurrent sense of two thirds of the state legislatures may enforce congress to call a convention, the amendments proposed by which, when ratified by the conventions of three fourths of the states, become valid, as a part of the constitution. In either mode, the assent of the body politic of the states, is necessary, either to complete, or to originate the measure.

Their submission to it’s operation is voluntary: it’s councils, it’s engagements, it’s authority are theirs, modified, and united. It’s sovereignty is an emanation from theirs, not a flame by which they have been consumed, nor a vortex in which they are swallowed up. Each is still a perfect state, still sovereign, still independent, and still capable, should the occasion require, to resume the exercise of it’s functions, as such, in the most unlimited extent.

excerpted from:

BLACKSTONE'S COMMENTARIES: WITH NOTES OF REFERENCE, TO THE CONSTITUTION AND LAWS, OF THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT OF THE UNITED STATES; AND OF THE COMMONWEALTH OF VIRGINIA. IN FIVE VOLUMES. WITH AN APPENDIX TO EACH VOLUME, CONTAINING SHORT TRACTS UPON SUCH SUBJECTS AS APPEARED NECESSARY TO FORM A CONNECTED VIEW OF THE LAWS OF VIRGINIA, AS A MEMBER OF THE FEDERAL UNION. BY ST. GEORGE TUCKER, PROFESSOR OF LAW, IN THE UNIVERSITY OF WILLIAM AND MARY, AND ONE OF THE JUDGES OF THE GENERAL COURT IN VIRGINIA. PHILADELPHIA: PUBLISHED BY WILLIAM YOUNG BIRCH, AND ABRAHAM SMALL, NO. 17, SOUTH SECOND-STREET. ROBERT CARR, PRINTER. 1803.

You don't know anything about it because it has conveniently been ERASED from public school history texts!

48 posted on 04/30/2012 6:28:37 AM PDT by Bigun ("The most fearsome words in the English language are I'm from the government and I'm here to help!")
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To: catfish1957
-BTW name one conservative legislator from New England, or from the north east for that matter.

Gov. Paul LePage and Sen. Kelly Ayotte are two elected conservatives that come to mind. Carl Palidino and Rick Santorum are two conservative candidates who have recently run for office. One might argue that the election of Scott Brown for the seat held by Ted Kennedy was a victory for conservatives also.

Not sure what the point of this exercise is, but there are plenty of conservatives in the Northeast and I'm quite sure more than those I've named serving in office at the state and county levels.

49 posted on 04/30/2012 6:38:36 AM PDT by mac_truck ( Aide toi et dieu t aidera)
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To: jmacusa
One more small contribution to enhance your apparent severely limited education.

"The Federal Government is the creature of the States. It is not a party to the Constitution, but the result of it the creation of that agreement which was made by the States as parties. It is a mere agent, entrusted with limited powers for certain specific objects; which powers and objects are enumerated in the Constitution. Shall the agent be permitted to judge the extent of its own powers, without reference to his constituent? To a certain extent, he is compelled to do this, in the very act of exercising them, but always in subordination to the authority by whom his powers were conferred. If this were not so, the result would be, that the agent would possess every power which the agent could confer, notwithstanding the plainest and most express terms of the grant. This would be against all principle and all reason. If such a rule would prevail in regard to government, a written constitution would be the idlest thing imaginable. It would afford no barrier against the usurpations of the government, and no security for the rights and liberties of the people. If then the Federal Government has no authority to judge, in the last resort, of the extent of its own powers, with what propriety can it be said that a single department of that government may do so? Nay. It is said that this department may not only judge for itself, but for the other departments also. This is an absurdity as pernicious as it is gross and palpable. If the judiciary may determine the powers of the Federal Government, it may pronounce them either less or more than they really are. "

Abel Upshur, The Federal government: Its true nature and character (Abel Upshur served as Secretary of the Navy from 1841-43 and was the United States Secretary of State in 1845)

50 posted on 04/30/2012 6:41:14 AM PDT by Bigun ("The most fearsome words in the English language are I'm from the government and I'm here to help!")
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To: mac_truck

The rest of the country would be grateful if New England went ahead and broke off from the USA.. Don’t worry this will not get a Shermanesque response from us. No burning of New York or March to the Sea. Although the fantasy of kicking Yankee butt across the rust belt sounds nice.


51 posted on 04/30/2012 6:43:12 AM PDT by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Bigun

Everyone seems to think the most important part of the constitution is the bill-of-rights (BOR). It is not IMO. The limits on and formation of the federal govt. far outweigh the significance of the BOR. Without the limits on FedGov™ power the BOR is meaningless.


52 posted on 04/30/2012 6:49:56 AM PDT by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: central_va
Although the fantasy of kicking Yankee butt across the rust belt sounds nice.

You Johnny Rebs do a lot of sh*t talking for an 0-1 team.

53 posted on 04/30/2012 7:13:20 AM PDT by Hemingway's Ghost (Spirit of '75)
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To: central_va
The limits on and formation of the federal govt. far outweigh the significance of the BOR. Without the limits on FedGov™ power the BOR is meaningless.

I absolutely agree and, to a man, so would the founders!

WE have a very large monument in Washington D.C. to the very man who opened wide the doors through which every progressive since has walked!

54 posted on 04/30/2012 11:55:56 AM PDT by Bigun ("The most fearsome words in the English language are I'm from the government and I'm here to help!")
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To: Bigun

The Constitution of the United States is the law of the land, it was written by men, from the North and South and ratified by both. It has been defended in the wars this nation has fought and no other nation on earth has such a document. Take your version of your revisionist history and stick it. You’re the ignoramus here and if this constitutional form government doesn’t suit you, try somewhere else to live.


55 posted on 04/30/2012 2:14:45 PM PDT by jmacusa (Political correctness is cultural Marxism. I'm not a Marxist.)
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To: Bigun

Oh and by the way bozo, I went to Catholic schools.


56 posted on 04/30/2012 2:17:54 PM PDT by jmacusa (Political correctness is cultural Marxism. I'm not a Marxist.)
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To: BigReb555
It is called the only Jewish military cemetery in the world outside the State of Israel.

It is a section of a larger Jewish cemetery. Maybe not so very different from what you could have seen in Europe before WWII.

57 posted on 04/30/2012 2:19:56 PM PDT by x
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To: Bigun

Tucker was an anti-slavery advocate Reb. Did you know that?


58 posted on 04/30/2012 2:40:21 PM PDT by jmacusa (Political correctness is cultural Marxism. I'm not a Marxist.)
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To: jmacusa
The Constitution of the United States is the law of the land, it was written by men, from the North and South and ratified by both. It has been defended in the wars this nation has fought and no other nation on earth has such a document.

Absolutely right! To bad men like Abe Lincoln and you have completely subverted it!

59 posted on 04/30/2012 6:33:54 PM PDT by Bigun ("The most fearsome words in the English language are I'm from the government and I'm here to help!")
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To: jmacusa
Tucker was an anti-slavery advocate Reb.

So were a lot of other people who fought for the south dweb! What does that have to do with what we are talking about?

60 posted on 04/30/2012 6:48:46 PM PDT by Bigun ("The most fearsome words in the English language are I'm from the government and I'm here to help!")
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