Court Rules Against Russia in Katyn Massacre Case

Nazis were worst of evil, and US needed USSR and viceversa.

Also no mater how groosome Katyn was- Auschwitz and Dachau were hell.

And at the end, USSR was the one force that defeated nazis and saved the world... including Poles and Poland from Nazi extermination...

More perished in the gulags than in all German (German not some mythical ‘Nazi’) concentration camps. You are spouting the post WWII propaganda line defending the betrayal of the Eastern European countries by their Western Allies, propaganda line that has served the Communists and the West equally well. The greater evil has been on the Left as it continues to this day. Thanks to FDR we had Kambodia Killing Fields and the Chinese Communist takeover. North Korean paradise? And you are telling us about some “worst of evil” of 70 years ago?

You bring up an interesting point. the truly decisive edge that gave the Viet minh the victory at Dien Bien Phu was the massed artillery and anti-aircraft artillery that they dragged over mountains and through jungles to implace. The French realized they had been lured into a trap when Viet counter battery fire overwhelmed the French artillery and then began to subject the fortress to relentless bombardment. Col. Piroth, the French artillery commander, in the fortress committed suicide over the shame of being out gunned by the Viets. Anti-aircraft artillery fire was so intense that the French and US staffed Civil Air Transport aircraft were reduced to erratic high altitude parachute drops.
The question is where did the mass of artillery come from? From Chinese stocks made up of captured KMT tube artillery or were the guns from the vast stocks of the USSR. The Viet Minh propaganda film made about Dien Bien Phu while quite detailed and graphic carefully avoids showing any direct shots of VN artillery in action beyond stylized muzzleblast sequences.

This is an interesting question since the Soviets essentially reequipped the ‘Chinese Peoples Volunteers’ force in Korea after the war entered its static phase. US and allied forces reported massive artillery barrages from the communist side laid on with real professional skill. The US perception was the combination of massive Soviet material support and the limitless and disciplined masses of the Chinese made resumption of offensive warfare in 1952 impossible without resorting to atomic weapons. Was this the same combination that clenched Dien Bien Phu or did Mao push enough of his own artillery into the hands of the Viets to ensure the humiliating defeat of the ‘colonialist’ French forces?

Was this the same combination that clenched Dien Bien Phu or did Mao push enough of his own artillery into the hands of the Viets to ensure the humiliating defeat of the ‘colonialist’ French forces?

Soviet material support for the PLA was possible because of China's common border with the Soviet Union. This, too was a loan - the Chinese peasantry spent a decade paying for this loan (on top of billions of dollars in Mao's weapons grants to communist revolutionaries around the world), at a time when tens of millions of them were starving to death. Ultimately, it has to be said that Mao was a traitor to his own people - he placed a higher value on revolution abroad than the physical survival of tens of millions of his own people.

Without a Communist China, the Viet Minh could not have gotten the volume of weaponry it did - through a combination of Chicom generosity and a friendly northern border. Vietnam's coastline was controlled by the French. Without a friendly Communist China next to French-held Vietnam, the Soviets could give the Viet Minh cash, but getting the weapons in would be an entirely different matter.

And at the end, USSR was the one force that defeated nazis and saved the world... including Poles and Poland from Nazi extermination...

If the Soviets hadn't signed the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact with Hitler, there would have been no WWII. Hitler was justifiably worried about a two front war. The Nazi invasion of France would have ended up with the Soviet occupation of Berlin without the Pact. Ultimately, the Soviets are indirectly responsible for deaths of 50m Europeans via that unholy pact.

And if the European powers hadn’t had their main forces tied up in Europe and overrun by Hitler, the Japanese invasion of East Asia would not have occurred. No Pearl Harbor, no 400,000 dead GI body count. Bottom line is that the Russians screwed Europe, Asia and millions of American servicemen big time. Asking for gratitude for helping put out the out-of-control fire that the Soviets started is a little excessive.

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