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Pentagon releases results of 13,000-mph test flight over Pacific
LA Times ^ | 4/20/12 | W.J. Hennigan

Posted on 04/21/2012 8:17:26 PM PDT by LibWhacker

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To: Strategerist

Excellent points...


41 posted on 04/21/2012 10:00:57 PM PDT by jveritas (God bless our brave troops)
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To: jveritas
I suppose ABC is a right-wing outfit and Clinton's own State Dept. are loons too?

ABCNEWS.com 4/7/00 "…..The State Department is accusing Lockheed Martin Corp. with illegally exporting technology to a Chinese company that could help China improve its missile technology. Lockheed, the largest U.S. defense contractor, conducted 30 violations of the Arms Export Control Act and the International Traffic in Arms Regulations, the department said in a letter to the company dated Tuesday. The Bethesda, Maryland-based company could be fined up to $15 million and barred from export licenses for three years. A company spokesman told reporters that Lockheed had done nothing wrong and would appeal the State Department decision…………The letter, a copy of which was obtained today by ABCNEWS, says that Lockheed had specialists assess Chinese manufactured satellite kick motors for use in Chinese government Long March 2E launch vehicles, or missiles. A kick motor fires after launch to send a satellite into its final orbit………… In addition, Lockheed had in 1994 sent the company, Asia Satellite Telecommunications Company Limited, or Asiasat, a 50-page technical letter that the Pentagon had ordered reduced to about five pages, according to the State Department…….."Lockheed Martin Corporation did not at any time inform the U.S. government of these exports prior to the recent disclosure of these facts through an investigation conducted by the U.S. Customs Service," the letter says……….In performing and sharing the study, Lockheed also violated U.S. rules by identifying flaws in Chinese testing procedures, confirming the results of Chinese tests pinpointing faulty insulation, and identifying problems with U.S. solid rocket motor technologies, according to the State Department letter……."

42 posted on 04/21/2012 10:03:08 PM PDT by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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And then there's Bill Gertz the "notoriously inaccurate" national defense and security expert.

Gertz 11/5/1998 "…… The report also said the PLA is using U.S. GPS and Global Navigation Satellite Systems (Glonass) satellites in developing advanced weapons and may use these satellites "to improve the accuracy of its missiles." …….. "GPS updates would provide the potential to improve missile accuracy through midcourse guidance correction and increase the operational flexibility of road-mobile platforms," the report said. The road-mobile platforms include two new intercontinental ballistic missiles identified by the Pentagon as the DF-31 and DF-41, which will have ranges of 5,000 miles and 7,500 miles, respectively. New submarine-launched nuclear missiles also are in development. ……"

43 posted on 04/21/2012 10:06:33 PM PDT by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: TigersEye

So where is Bill Clinton involvement here in giving China secret militray technology? I do not see any...Stop wasting your time researching crap to confirm your crazy conspiracy theory that a US President committed treason by giving secret military technology to China...because he did not give secret military technology to China...


44 posted on 04/21/2012 10:09:04 PM PDT by jveritas (God bless our brave troops)
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To: Al
Well, golly gee whiz!, how could Clinton possibly get away with it?

newsmax.com 5/3/00 "……. Attorney General Janet Reno rejected his recommendation to investigate President Clinton's connection to a Democrat fund-raiser tied to the sale of hi-tech missile data to China, a former Justice Department official testified yesterday. Appearing before a Senate subcommittee, Charles G. LaBella testified that he requested that an independent counsel be sought to investigate the relationship between Mr. Clinton and Bernard L. Schwartz, chief executive officer at Loral Space & Communications Ltd, but the attorney general refused to go along with the recommendation. …….. According to the Washington Times, the House Select Committee on U.S. National Security and Military/Commercial Concerns with the People's Republic of China had singled out Loral for supplying key missile-related expertise that damaged U.S. national security. …….. The committee asserted that Loral assisted China without first obtaining U.S. licenses even though the corporation knew licenses for sensitive, militarily useful technology transfers were required. …… The technology transfer, the committee said, allowed China to improve the reliability of its missiles, noting that China had stolen secrets on every deployed U.S. nuclear missile warhead in recent years and had 20 long-range missiles aimed at the United States. …….."

45 posted on 04/21/2012 10:09:38 PM PDT by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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Thank goodness for Attorney Generals to keep us from doing silly thing. We can all relax about Eric Holder now.

newsmax.com 5/3/00 "…….LaBella, author of a memo to Reno that remains secret, was questioned about its contents. He told the senators that the task force he headed was convinced that if Schwartz - who gave $1.5 million to the Democratic National Committee - was to be investigated to learn if the technology transfers were tied to his donations to the DNC, the inquiry should also include the president. LaBella said he made the recommendation to Reno in a July 1998 memo but that one of Reno's top executives, Lee Radek, head of the department's public integrity section, called the recommendation "silly." ..."

46 posted on 04/21/2012 10:12:54 PM PDT by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: Strategerist
Military technology is not just weaponry.

Also it needs to be kept in mind that the Chinese have had the ability to put multi-megaton ICBMs on US cities since the early Reagan adminstration; that capability was not the result of what the Clintons gave them.

Really? And you know that how?

47 posted on 04/21/2012 10:16:06 PM PDT by Trailerpark Badass
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The L.A. Times, another right-wing paper, reports the biggest fine ever levied paid by Lockheed Martin Corp. for illegally helping the ChiComs.

LA Times 6/14/00 Norman Kempster "……Lockheed Martin Corp. will pay a record $13-million fine for illegally helping the Chinese government correct critical defects in the rocket motor for its Long March 2E satellite launch vehicle, Clinton administration officials said Tuesday. Lockheed, the world's largest defense contractor, consented to the penalty to settle charges brought by the State Department in April. The fine was the largest ever imposed under the Arms Export Control Act, eclipsing a $10-million penalty imposed on Boeing Corp. in 1998. "The settlement is in recognition of the government's concerns about protecting national security through strict regulatory controls and Lockheed Martin's commitment to compliance with these regulations," said company spokesman James Fetig……..Although the firm was not required to admit guilt to settle the case, it agreed to pay a fine that was only slightly short of the $15-million maximum that could have been imposed if the government had prevailed on all 30 counts of the charges in a proceeding before an administrative law judge……"

48 posted on 04/21/2012 10:21:02 PM PDT by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: LibWhacker

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49 posted on 04/21/2012 10:23:35 PM PDT by GOP Poet
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Nothing to see here folks. Just right-wing AP trying to smear a good Democrat president. Move along.

AP 5/22/98 "……. `The criminal division of the Justice Department has cautioned that a national interest waiver in this case could have a significant adverse impact on any prosecution that might take place based on a pending investigation of export violation,'' National Security Adviser Sandy Berger wrote the president on Feb. 12. …..Clinton granted the waiver just six days later ……Just two weeks before the decision, Schwartz, a lifelong Democrat and early supporter of Clinton, was at the White House to attend a state dinner Feb. 5 for British prime minister Tony Blair. ……"

50 posted on 04/21/2012 10:24:44 PM PDT by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: LibWhacker
Interesting thread. Maybe a little hotter than it needs to be, but still interesting.

I didn't much like the last sentence in the article:

There aren’t any more flights scheduled for the Falcon program, which began in 2003 and cost taxpayers about $320 million.

51 posted on 04/21/2012 11:13:40 PM PDT by TChad
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To: jveritas
Oh stop the stupid conspiracy theory... Tell me please how can the President give technologies to a nation without being exposed?

Maybe you haven't been paying attention recently:

"Obama Will Give Missile Tech To Russia Despite Law"

Link:

http://www.westernjournalism.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/patriot-missile-operator-us-army-careers-300x300.jpg

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Excerpt:

"It appears that Barack Obama has again ignored the rule of law by signing a defense appropriations bill that prohibits him sharing vital United States leading-edge strategic US missile technology with Russia, yet he has told both houses of Congress that he plans to share the US missile technology anyway. Why is this important? Because it goes light-years beyond partisan politics and into an area where our national defense will be put at unreasonable risk. It is believed that the Russians will pass this technology onto China, Iran and North Korea."

52 posted on 04/21/2012 11:20:38 PM PDT by Cobra64 (Common sense isn't common anymore.)
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To: jveritas

And I keep hearing hints that no matter what they announce, we are already 50-75 years beyond that!

My brother was Air Force and he says the public will NEVER actually know the true top speed of the SR-71.


53 posted on 04/21/2012 11:28:45 PM PDT by djf (Life's a play, we're actors not authors, and nobody even cared to give us the script!)
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“Tell me please how can the President give technologies to a nation without being exposed?”

He was exposed, but the lamestream misleadia refused to report on it.


54 posted on 04/21/2012 11:29:56 PM PDT by dsc (Any attempt to move a government to the left is a crime against humanity.)
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To: jveritas

Logistics, tactics, strength in numbers, communication...these are more important than technology.


55 posted on 04/21/2012 11:43:45 PM PDT by mamelukesabre
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To: Flag_This

We build it, China steals it, the Left prospers. Any questions?


56 posted on 04/21/2012 11:44:27 PM PDT by Crucial
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To: jveritas
Do you really believe that a President can get away with TREASON? Because if what you guys claim Clinton did is true than it is TREASON.

As per Monty Python, "Not necessarily."

57 posted on 04/22/2012 12:03:57 AM PDT by dr_lew
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To: TChad
I didn't much like the last sentence in the article:

There aren’t any more flights scheduled for the Falcon program, which began in 2003 and cost taxpayers about $320 million.


Relatively cheap for what they were doing. I'm not defending it, but I thought it would have cost a lot more.
58 posted on 04/22/2012 12:12:49 AM PDT by af_vet_rr
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To: LibWhacker
all this awesome technology at the command of an elite group of arrogant, ethically retarded politicians who are out of touch with reality is frightening

they can't even manage a checkbook, much less world diplomacy

59 posted on 04/22/2012 12:15:30 AM PDT by KTM rider
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To: LibWhacker
all this awesome technology at the command of an elite group of arrogant, ethically retarded politicians who are out of touch with reality is frightening

they can't even manage a checkbook, much less world diplomacy

60 posted on 04/22/2012 12:15:30 AM PDT by KTM rider
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