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To: Graewoulf; metmom; boatbums; caww; smvoice; presently no screen name; Quix

I really do not think that liberals are driven by a fierce need to help, and overall do not do so sacrificially, but that they see the have nots as victims of a system that requires adherence to principals of earning, responsibility, stewardship, and rewards or penalization based upon these. And their “help” is that of taking from those who represent support of these principles to give those who are “victims,” in order to promote the overthrow of that system of rewards and their own exaltation as elites who are not to be questioned.

As stated in post #30, it all began with the devil seeking to “climb up some other way (Jn. 10:1) and “occupy” the seat of power, (Is. 14) and thus he later sought to instill a victim-entitlement mentality in Eve, that she was being treated unfairly, and that God should share the wealth of His knowledge and thus power, (Gn. 3) and therefore her rebellion, was justified, as the devil thinks his was.

Besides Communism, the hippie rebellion of the 60’s, in which students would take over administration buildings and reject God’s laws and attain paradise via drugs an support via abuse of the establishment, is the modern expression of this (although unlike in Eden, there was some failures of the “landowners” which failures the rebels would use and magnify in order to sell their rebellious fantasy and justify their lustful self exaltation).

Yet the ideology of the hippies was/is even arguably more fantastical than the Communism in the degree of its imagination that goods and services will flow without adherence to Divinely established principles. And actually on one level it more radically rejects many basic laws of social behavior (no marriage,sexual mores, child discipline, etc.). They seek a perpetual Woodstock, but it turns into Haight Asbury. They preach a Garden of Eden but without God, and the laws of God, esp. those which are necessary because of the Fall.

And as so many of those who bought that deception actually became part of the “establishment” by deceptively selling their fantasy, to a post-Christian America (in which blindness in part has happened), then they now seek to legislate their ideology which spawned in Hell, and which only somewhat achieved by the use of drugs and its music.

And as in Communism, the leadership that ends up replacing that which represents (even with its faulty men) adherence to God’s principles is far worse than what it replaced. And having begun in Hell, and seeking the devil’s will to be done, it sends a nation to Hell, having forgotten God. (Ps. 9:17).


57 posted on 04/24/2012 2:17:56 AM PDT by daniel1212 (Come to the Lord Jesus as a damned+morally destitute sinner,+trust Him to forgive+save you,+live....)
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To: daniel1212; drbuzzard; hocndoc; spankalib; DJ MacWoW; DrDan4Congress; donna; LucyT; bitt; ...

” - - - in order to promote the overthrow of that system of rewards and their own exaltation as elites who are not to be questioned.”

I have taken the liberty of using your above quote to point out what I see as ambivalence on the part of the Counter Culture of The Left, (CCOTL).

In order to achieve their goals, the CCOTL MUST destroy all vestiges of resistance to what order that THEY want to impose on Society.

Their goal then would be to establish THEMSELVES as the sole authorities of Societal Mores, that must be obeyed without hesitation.

Hence, the ambivalence: they HATE the present system of order, that allows for freedom of speech, and at the same time LOVE their system of order which will deny freedom of speech.

All of us went through this phase of ambivalence as we left the nest. It is just part of changing from a child to an adult.

The CCOTL are still holding onto their security blankets of ambivalence, and few among them have the courage to discard the contradictory values of the CCOTL and join in supporting the fundamental values of this Republic.

The pendulum is swinging,
Which way will it go?
To the Left a little more,
Or will today’s voter’s say NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!?


58 posted on 04/24/2012 6:32:59 AM PDT by Graewoulf ((Dictator Baby-Doc Barack's obama"care" violates Sherman Anti-Trust Law, AND U.S. Constitution.))
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