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Robert Spencer Asks: Did Muhammad Exist?
FrontPage Magazine ^ | April 23, 2012 | Bruce Thornton

Posted on 04/23/2012 4:47:09 AM PDT by SJackson

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To: SJackson

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21 posted on 04/23/2012 5:56:27 AM PDT by Jane Long (Soli Deo Gloria!)
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To: Sherman Logan
Not this stupidity again! I’m disappointed in Spencer, as I’ve admired his past work.

That was my take on this subject.
Why go down this road? -Tom

22 posted on 04/23/2012 6:03:51 AM PDT by Capt. Tom
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To: jjotto
I think Omar was born a Coptic Christian, then converted to Islam in order to marry the top 1960s Egyptian female film star. (I put the word female in there because remember we are talking about actors here!)
23 posted on 04/23/2012 6:11:17 AM PDT by Reily
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To: SJackson
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I'll say more later.

24 posted on 04/23/2012 6:23:38 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (Allah FUBAR.)
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To: SJackson
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I'll say more later, Inshallah.

25 posted on 04/23/2012 6:24:50 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (Allah FUBAR.)
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To: SJackson

Should be an interesting book.


26 posted on 04/23/2012 6:46:50 AM PDT by bayouranger (The 1st victim of islam is the person who practices the lie.)
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To: Sherman Logan

Yes, you raise a valid point, but it is not “this supudiety again.” Just because Jesus is not established as a historical figure, except perhaps by Flavius Josephus, does not mean that we should not be demanding of evidence about Muhammad.

Disclosure: I accept that Jesus existed in part because of how consistent the account of his life harmonizes with the writings of the Prophets, who were many people who wrote over a span of many centuries and whose works were preserved in an integrated collection.


27 posted on 04/23/2012 6:51:20 AM PDT by theBuckwheat
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To: SJackson
Did Muhammad Exist?

No. Next question.

28 posted on 04/23/2012 6:52:28 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Shut up and drill.)
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To: Sherman Logan

Mohammad doesn’t exist, never existed, and never will exist You blaspheme every religion by repeating the lie that Mohammad ever existed.


29 posted on 04/23/2012 6:54:25 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Shut up and drill.)
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To: theBuckwheat

Mohammad is as fictional as Santa Claus.


30 posted on 04/23/2012 6:55:12 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Shut up and drill.)
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To: Capt. Tom

STOP PERPETUATING THE LIE THAT MOHAMMAD EVER EXISTED!!!


31 posted on 04/23/2012 6:56:47 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Shut up and drill.)
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To: onedoug
Mohammad is less real than Aunt Jemimah.


32 posted on 04/23/2012 6:59:16 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Shut up and drill.)
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To: pepsi_junkie
I am starting a new religion. It is called Jemimaism.

We worship, as our Lord and Savior, the Aunt Jemimah character from the 1800's and early 1900's.

Meet our Lord and Savior:


33 posted on 04/23/2012 7:03:17 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Shut up and drill.)
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To: SJackson

Does Satan exist, does evil exist?


34 posted on 04/23/2012 8:27:11 AM PDT by ZULU (Non Nobis Domine Non Nobis Sed Nomini Tuo Da Gloriam.)
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To: Lazamataz

Jemima is a false prophet.

Rastus (the Cream of Wheat chef dude) is the true messenger of God.

Those who follow Jemima must convert to Rastus or be put to death!


35 posted on 04/23/2012 8:42:30 AM PDT by rogue yam
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To: Lazamataz
STOP PERPETUATING THE LIE THAT MOHAMMAD EVER EXISTED!!!

And what is your proof he did not exist? - Tom

36 posted on 04/23/2012 9:00:43 AM PDT by Capt. Tom
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To: Sherman Logan

One reason cited by historians is the decline of Byzantium’s control of land trade routes and peripheral territories. This allowed the sea traders on the Arabian Peninsula to exert more and more control over trade and to accumulate wealth until they could afford to finance conquering armies to capture the Middle East and North Africa.


37 posted on 04/23/2012 9:01:52 AM PDT by VanShuyten ("a shadow...draped nobly in the folds of a gorgeous eloquence.")
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To: VanShuyten

Don’t buy it.

Merchants that become more successful do not generally morph into conquering armies. At least I can’t think of any examples. They expand their merchant activities, instead. Merchants are more likely to turn warlike when their trading activities are blocked.

IMO the Roman and Persian Empires had fought each other into a comprehensive state of utter exhaustion, something like some claim would have happened had we stayed out of WWII and allowed the Nazis and Soviets to destroy each other. (I’m not one of these people.)

So I think there is no question there was a major power vacuum in the Middle East. The question is why the Arabs, who had absolutely no tradition of conquest, suddenly became conquerors for a century. And then stopped again.

Again, IMO, the answer is the power of a new religious idea that fitted exactly into the pre-existing ideas of the Arabs.


38 posted on 04/23/2012 9:08:43 AM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: Capt. Tom
Where is he?

Also, look at ALL THE PHONE BOOKS from that era. NO MOHAMMAD!!!!

Check any records you want. No Visa, Mastercard, or American Express records. No hotel receipts. Not even any donations to Salvation Army.

MOHAMMAD IS A FRAUD!

39 posted on 04/23/2012 9:15:51 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Shut up and drill.)
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To: Sherman Logan
Arabs weren't different in the 7th century, but the conditions were favorable for a brief period. (Sort of like the Lithuanian Empire that once stretched to the Black Sea about 1450, due to a specific set of circumstances.)

1) The Eastern Roman ("Byzantine") Empire to the west of Arabia and the Persian Empire to the east had been ferociously beating each other up for a long time, Persians capturing Jerusalem for example in 618 and 632. So both were militarily exhausted.

2) The huge plagues that also weakened the forces that were thus unable to counteract the Arabs.

Therefore, Islam is really more like an opportunistic weed. It makes sense, once you think about it, to back-invent a "cause" for this unexpected military success, and why not a mythical "prophet" to "inspire" them?

40 posted on 04/23/2012 9:17:00 AM PDT by wildandcrazyrussian
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