[RinaseaofDs]

Without the 14th and 17th Amendments, or better put, without the ‘penumbras and emanations’ from the 14th that wrecked the 10th, we wouldn’t be having this thread.

Whomever on this thread wrote the words:

“The only virtuous thing about government is its limit”

should come forth with his real name so that it can go down into a book of famous quotations.

There wasn’t much virtue during the 1700’s either. I’m reading the Federalist Papers right now, and the ENTIRE EXPERIMENT pivoted around the idea that people were other than virtuous.

When we gutted the 10th, which sadly ended up at the end only because it enumerated the limited powers in the previous nine, else it may have been the 0th, or 1st, the Experiment was at an end.

It has been downhill from the 14th and the 17th. I see more cool-headed thinking coming from the house these days than the Senate, which is a collection of narcisistic sociopaths.

[aruanan]

Whomever on this thread wrote the words:

“The only virtuous thing about government is its limit”

should come forth with his real name so that it can go down into a book of famous quotations.

Poor dear. In a book of just-missed-the-mark quotations. A limit on government is something that is antecedent to government. It is something the founders said lay in the people, that was expressed in the Declaration and the Constitution, and that the people should re-impose on government by whichever means are most appropriate when government, whether large or small, starts to trample their liberties.