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To: BereanBrain
Second, 90% of SA Pistols are unsafe. Why? Because they lack a real safety, and an indicator of a round in the chamber. Both the Taurus PT709 slim and the some of the Kahr models offer a REAL safety and a loaded chamber indicator you can see/feel in the dark. This, along with training, make these SA Pistols safer than a revolver, and easier to carry.

We have different preferences. I don't want a loaded chamber indicator. All weapons are to be treated as loaded, whether or not they indicate as loaded. I don't find the "safety" particularly relevant in evaluating whether a firearm is safe either. None of my weapons are on "safe" at this moment, or ever unless required by rules at a particular range. In my interaction with firearms, safety comes from proper handling, not from mechanical devices. So long as others don't try to mandate particular safety measures for my weapons or for my home, I don't mind if they choose their own purchases based on their preferences but I would be unhappy with any efforts to require that I buy more junk that I don't want.

Note: My last purchase came with an annoying lock that suffered an immediate "mechanical failure". I do not want anything to interfere with the proper operation of my firearms, nor do I want to have to find and insert a key in the dark if I need to defend my family.

31 posted on 04/24/2012 10:17:16 AM PDT by Pollster1 (Can we afford as much government as welfare-addicted voters demand?)
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To: Pollster1

Every weapon *should* be treated as loaded.

However, how can a loaded chamber indicator be a bad thing?

I never consider a gun “safe”.

So from the logic of every gun is loaded, why do you need a safety?

Hey, if you want such a weapon fine, but I got taught old school from hunting.
We never walked through the woods with safety off.
We practiced when we saw our target to safety off, then fire, in one motion.
We shook our heads when other people were shout accidentially because idiots were crossing fences or whatnot and accidentily discharged a firearm.

This is life/death. You need a fail-safe. That is (1) Actions/Behavior (2) Hardware

Actions/behavior are not enough...people are prone to make mistakes. Then bad things happen.

This is why I advocate

0) A gun is always loaded, even when it’s not. Don’t point it at things you don’t want to shoot. Don’t dry snap. It’s not a toy. it’s a deadly weapon.
1) Have a REAL safety, and it’s always on unless you are about to shoot
2) Practice at the range disengaging the safety, firing (x number of rounds) and then resafey.
3) If you carry concealed, practice drawing from carry, turning safety off, shooting, safety on, and returning to cover. (the last is least important)
4) You need to practice AT LEAST once a month, for at least an hour. get to where “muscle memory” is working with your safety/shooting action


48 posted on 04/24/2012 12:14:51 PM PDT by BereanBrain
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