Skip to comments.Dershowitz: Zimmerman prosecutors should be investigated (References Mobile, AL racial beat-down)
Posted on 04/24/2012 1:37:36 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
Harvard Law School Professor Alan Dershowitz believes the prosecution team in the George Zimmerman case should be investigated to see if they committed a criminal act.
On the Glenn Beck radio program today, Professor Dershowitz said he does not believe the Florida prosecution team had sufficient evidence to charge George Zimmerman with second degree murder in the death of Trayvon Martin in Sanford, Florida. Unless there is additional evidence, Dershowitz believes the second degree murder charge is baseless. Dershowitz added that he does not see any justification for the prosecution to withhold evidence.
Furthermore, in an explosive charge, Dershowitz said he believes the Florida prosecution, may be guilty of committing an ethical violation, and potentially may have committed a criminal act by charging Zimmerman with second degree murder. If the prosecution had access to a photograph showing the bloodied head of Mr. Zimmerman, taken immediately after the incident on February 26, there was no basis for a second degree murder charge, according to Dershowitz. If it were proven that the prosecution had access to the photograph, and filed a second degree murder charge anyway, Dershowitz believes they may be guilty of Subornation of perjury which is a very serious charge.
...This is an explosive situation because there has already apparently been violence perpetrated by people who believed they were avenging the death of Trayvon Martin. In a tragic situation that occured in Mobile Alabama yesterday, a mob of African-American adults allegedly attacked a white man who had approached some African-American youth about playing basketball in the street. The mob used chairs, pipes, and paint cans to beat the man who is in critical condition. According to a witness at the scene, one of the attackers allegedly said, 'Now that's justice for Trayvon'....
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Seems not...but have to say my opinion of Derschowitz has been elevated by the way he’s addressed this. Not so much a partisan hack as I’d thought.
This is not only what they expected. This is exactly what that had panned on.
Dershowitz would make a GREAT Justice of the SCOTUS. His objectivity is astounding in this era of bastardization of the law based on fear and political correctness. RIGHT ON, DERSH!
Where is the probable cause in that document?
Zimmerman prosecutor under fire (for a previous case)
I have always liked real liberals that are true to their values. The PC march in step with the Dim party every step to the hard left control of all aspects of society Dims are not my cup of tea by any means, but an honest liberal like Dershowitz or Hitchens is hard to dislike even you on many if not most issues strongly disagree with them.
Dershowitz occasionally surprises me. He’s a liberal, but not an ideologue. His position on Israel is strong. His book on counterterrorism was legit and thoughtful. His position on torture in terrorist interrogations is reasoned.
And, now this.
Are you kidding me?
This is exactly what they want. Keep the fire going so people will forget how bad ZERO is doing attempting to govern.
It won't work. . . . .
Honest liberal - one that isn’t just a commie using a different label.
No, this is not what they had planned.
What they had planned is "Most of us dead, the rest in chains".
And the fact that most of us aren’t dead and the rest in chains is a real sore point among 0bama supporters.
” They should “
Yeah - and unicorns *should* crap only green Skittles on St. Patrick’s Day...
(As long as we’re listing ‘ain’t gonna happens’... ;)
Zimmerman had to spend $15,000 on bond that he won`t get back if he had to use a bondsman. So, if this gets thrown out they at bare minimum owe him $15,000. The bondsman did it for 10%. Here in NC, the max is 15%. NON-REFUNDABLE with very few exceptions.
No that is a dishonest liberal. They pretend to be some what conservative to seek office or approval of some kind, but toe the PC line. That is Obama.
Hitchens and Dershowitz never that I have seen pretend to be anything other than who they are.
Angela Corey and her investigators MUST be investigated, before this case turns into a Duke Rape Case. Mike Nifong
was disbarred for bringing bogus charges.
Angela Corey must be disbarred.
"During the recorded call Zimmerman made reference to people he felt had committed and gotten away with break-ins in his neighborhood. Later while talking about Martin, Zimmerman stated "these a**holes, they always get away" and also said "these f**king punks"."
By the way, I don't think Zimm ever said "these f**king punks".. I think he said "it's f**king COLD" and even HE doesn't correctly recall what he said, but.. IT'S IN THIS VIDEO RIGHT HERE. Listen, starting about 2mins,05secs into this analysis!
The affidavit makes a claim that is simply UNTRUE.
Also reported today on FNC is that George Zimmerman is out of state and that he is relying on donated private protection services. He has no official police protection.
Let's not get carried away. Dershowitz has made some pretty outlandish charges against conservatives over the years.
This trial could mean the end of justice in the United States. The abuses by this administration and its fanatics is reaching a crescendo...
“Hitchens and Dershowitz never that I have seen pretend to be anything other than who they are.”
You do know Hitchens is dead.
” You do know Hitchens is dead. “
But, unlike Reid and Pelosi, he’s not pretending he’s alive...
You’re going too far now. Dersh is still a living constitutionalist liberal.
” my opinion of Derschowitz has been elevated”
My opinion of him has not changed one bit! I disagree with him on almost everything political, but I’ve always liked him! His perspicacious application of his intelligence and education, and his honesty, has always made for interesting interviews and conversations,,, as opposed to someone like Shultz or Odorman!
This case is going to make white people, at least those not taken in by the media, realize that the situation has now exactly reversed itself. In a white vs. black case, the white person cannot expect justice--at least not if anyone stands to benefit from a miscarriage of justice.
At least in the Nifong case, the students were eventually cleared. It's not certain that Zimmerman will be cleared or that he will avoid being killed.
“You do know Hitchens is dead.”
Yes, that gives me much more confidence that nothing Hitchen will do in the future will be thrown back in my face over this praise than in the case of Dershowitz. It is always safer to praise dead honest liberals than live honest liberals who may next week decide to make an about face and start toeing the PC line.
Then again at one time after reading the “Read Anita Hill” I was a fan of the conservative David Brock. So anyone you praise can later become an idiot.
“But, unlike Reid and Pelosi, hes not pretending hes alive.”
Good one,Uncle Ike,good one.
(By the way,I actually had an Uncle Ike.)
ping to #26 & #4
Who investigates the investigators? Specifically at the State level.
Who would appoint a "special prosecutor", if that is the correct term, to investigate inappropriate actions on the part of Angela Corey and her department?
I think as suggested by others we need to apply serious pressure to the right individuals or branch of government to take action and not just talk to ourselves about it.
Dershowitz would have been a much better SCOTUS than Kagan or Sotomayor (who together have a combined IQ close to 100). But he is still a LIBERAL.
He is right on when it comes to Israel and if I were accused of a crime, I would want him on my defense team. But there is no way he should be on the Supreme Court. He is as left wing as they come on social issues.
“Faint praise,” but I agree with both your words and tone.
If the prosecution violated the law in not presenting all the evidence, then prosecute the prosecutors.
They are not required to at this point, in a charging document, but the document itself contains enough information so there should never have been a charge, as it indicates there are required elements of the charge that they admit they will never be able to prove.
They should go after the people in the MSM who edited the tapes and pictures to stir up racial hatred.
That is a First Amendment issue, resolved by viewers and readers turning away from those media. The First Amendment makes the media free, but also allows them to be wrong and stupid. That said, if he is not found guilty, Zimmerman as multi-million dollar cases against a number of media outlets.
They should prosecute the New Black Panthers, Civil rights leaders and anyone else who has called for violence.
Tough to do. It could be called protected opinion.
They should prosecute any assault that claims to be for Trayvon, as a hate crime.
Do Kagan and Sotomayor have to come up with ideas, or is that all done for them by ghost-writers and staff?
Sounds like this prosecutor overcharges to force the accused to plea to a lesser charge. The charge on that 12 year old sounds ridiculous for the alleged events that occurred.
The affidavit is a mind reading act.
Martin was unarmed and was not committing a crime.
Not in evidence that he was or wasn't.
...by Zimmerman who didn't want the person he falsely assumed was going to commit a crime ...
Al and Jesse may have jumped on this bandwagon just to get some TV face time. Barry undoubtedly thinks (rightly) that this brouhaha will give him time for unrelated skulduggery. Eric “Mypeople” is the one among the four who may be cunning enough to see where this is likely to go, and to keep it on track to work against all americans, but for him and his (excluding ordinary blacks, in whom he may have no interest).
Since I have never read anything intelligent by either of them, I think maybe they write their own opinions. They have spell checkers and grammar checkers to make sure they spell everything correctly and conjugate their verbs. They don't have any "ideas", just marching orders from the White House.
Random Acts of Stupidity.
(with apologies to random acts of kindness)
It does seem ridiculous to expect a 12 yr old to understand the consequences of his actions which I think is required for a 1st degree murder charge. A prosecutor can overcharge to force a plea deal but I think they need at least a shred of credibility on the greater charge which I think is totally absent re Zimmerman. I’m not a lawyer so it’s JMO.
Al & Jessie, no. But they’re predictable race-baiters.
Obama has set this up so that he benefits politically no matter what happens. If Zimmerman is acquited — and there are a few riots — then he knows his Black voting base is mobilized for the fall elections. If there is a white backlash and significant (gun) violence, then Obama declares an emergency. An emegency in which he gets to finagle the election returns by putting troops in certain Republican locales. Think “Reconstruction” after the Civil War.
When you hear the full extent of what is alleged, it doesn’t seem to make much sense. The 12 year old was in an impossible home situation. His own mother was `12 when he was born? The father was abusive. Sounds like he did injure his brother, but whether the two year old would have died is unclear from this piece. The mom neglected take the injured 2 year old to the hospital/dr for hours. What a mess of a home. The child does need punishment/help...but life without the possibility of parole? This prosecutor doesn’t sound too bright.
How do you get ‘punks’ out of ‘cold’???? He had just exited his truck and was reacting to the weather. Otherwise, I totally agree and it was disgusting to watch Angela Corey’s announcement of charges. I couldn’t believe the level of emotion she conveyed. If she’s known as an ‘upstanding professional’ she blew it big time. I thought I was watching ‘The View’ for a second. LOL.. She is an insult to her profession and Dershowitz has been stellar in his remarks. I once hated him but he’s out of the dog house now.
There is something wrong with Corey. The way she acted at her press conference makes me think she's looking for publicity and big reputation to end her career on. She might get both in all the wrong ways.
It sounded like ‘punks’ to me. YMMV