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54 National Park Areas Jeopardized Under Bogus "National Security" Bill Advancing in U.S. House
PrNewswire ^ | April 18, 2012 | PRNewswire

Posted on 04/25/2012 7:37:33 AM PDT by opentalk

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To: Whenifhow

You link is broken.....but this sentence.....

“According to anonymous eye witnesses, these Border Patrol stations are fortresses capable of keeping Obama’s Civilian Security Force (or a Chinese army) housed, fed, armed, and fully equipped to control the population of the United States.”

Reeks of tin-foil hat stuff.

Let me tell you, get half the environmental regulations out of MI and we will boom.


21 posted on 04/25/2012 9:55:49 AM PDT by netmilsmom (I am Breitbart)
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To: netmilsmom; opentalk

There is no question the EPA, environmentalists are in the way of freedom, liberty and economic growth.

The link works
http://www.standupamericaus.org/politics-washington-dc/fatal-betrayal-of-america-hr-1505/

Media Blackout...Canada and U.S. borders to be removed under new agreements.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OKvIqtcXH0A&context=C4e7a03aADvjVQa1PpcFNULjmywP_iwLSBGSyuMd-qeBcQMrTw8cU=

DHS | Beyond the Border: A Shared Vision for Perimeter Security and Economic Competitiveness

http://www.dhs.gov/files/publications/beyond-the-border.shtm

New deal to ease trade and travel at U.S.-Canada border
http://www.vancouversun.com/travel/deal+ease+trade+travel+Canada+border/5827393/story.html

The plan includes:

• Enhanced tracking of travellers in both countries.

• Joint screening of cargo coming from foreign countries to Canada and the U.S.


22 posted on 04/25/2012 10:22:52 AM PDT by Whenifhow
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To: Whenifhow

This is what I get...

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23 posted on 04/25/2012 10:36:01 AM PDT by netmilsmom (I am Breitbart)
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To: Whenifhow

Oh and BTW, if you’ve ever crossed the US/Canadian border since 9/11, you’d understand WHY we do need an easy way to cross.

Trucks wait 2 hours at the Blue Water Bridge. Cars wait with them unless you have a NEXUS pass. We have one. If you want to be paranoid, fine with me, but when my hubby, myself, my two blonde/blue eyed daughters and the dog, pulling a camper can speed on through driving to Toronto for the Harry Potter exhibit, the whole thing works for me.

AND the EPA regulations being beat down? Win/win!


24 posted on 04/25/2012 10:41:43 AM PDT by netmilsmom (I am Breitbart)
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To: Whenifhow

Pure tin foil hat looney tunes


25 posted on 04/25/2012 11:42:55 AM PDT by free me (heartless)
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To: Whenifhow; netmilsmom; Myrddin; opentalk

An example of the problems this bill attempts to address:

As we earlier reported (June 13 Human Events page 12), Environmental rules are hampering Border Patrol operations near the Mexican border, even as the agency doles out millions in taxpayer dollars meant to offset damage to endangered species.

Because of a pond inhabited by endangered pupfish, Border Patrol officers can use their vehicles to pursue illegal aliens only if the chase stays on the main road. If the pursuit veers into a 42-acre sector near the pond, officers must continue the chase on foot or horseback.

Border Patrol agents can’t drive vehicles into designated Wilderness areas, as well as certain areas of national parks and monuments.

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Agreements between the Homeland Security and Interior Departments on how best to protect the ecosystem are frustrating lawmakers who say they also prevent agents from conducting routine patrols.

http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=44433


26 posted on 04/25/2012 11:55:33 AM PDT by free me (heartless)
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Another excellent article explaining why this bill is needed and why greenies and socialists everywhere are against it:

Off Limits: Homeland Security & Green Groups Fight Over the Borderlands

by Cara Daniel, Green Watch, February 2012 (view as PDF here: GW0212)

Summary: The federal government has set aside hundreds of millions of acres of public land for ranching and forestry, national parks and wilderness areas, and it tasks various agencies to monitor and regulate land conservation and use. Because over 20 million acres of these federally-protected lands can be entered from across the U.S. border, the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) is required to patrol often difficult and hard-to-reach terrain. The job performed by the U.S. Border Patrol is made even harder by restrictions that require border security projects to abide by a myriad of environmental protection laws. Recently a bill in Congress, H.R. 1505, the National Security and Federal Lands Protection Act, was introduced to immunize DHS from many of these federal restrictions. Green groups are up in arms. They fear that DHS enforcement will hurt the environment and trample on individual rights. But many Americans living along the increasingly crime-ridden borderlands disagree.

https://www.capitalresearch.org/2012/02/gw-test/


27 posted on 04/25/2012 12:13:11 PM PDT by free me (heartless)
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To: free me
I agree with you on the Mexican border. It has become very dangerous and is spilling over, should be a high security priority. Just don't want this used as an opportunity to advance some agenda to areas which this is not an issue.
28 posted on 04/25/2012 12:28:15 PM PDT by opentalk
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To: opentalk
H.R. 1505, the mistitled “National Security and Federal Lands Protection Act,” would gut a century's worth of proven federal lands protection, potentially opening up millions of pristine acres of national parks to off-road vehicle use, road construction, air strips and helipads, fencing, base installations, and other disruptions.

I'm not seeing this as a bad thing. ‘Bout time that the “people” got access to some of these areas of “their” parks.

29 posted on 04/25/2012 12:39:18 PM PDT by Little Ray (FOR the best Conservative in the Primary; AGAINST Obama in the General.)
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To: opentalk

Understood, there needs to be safeguards from overreach.
For instance, from the second article I posted:

“What about civil liberties concerns? Opponents of H.R. 1505 worry that the open-ended phrase “activities that assist in securing the border” can mean anything without checks and balances. They say H.R. 1505 is a government overreach giving DHS too much power over what Americans can and cannot do on public lands.”

While not necessarily nefarious this phrase needs to be much more specific.

I’m not too worried about abuse on the northern border. Budget limitations alone should deter that. However I’m not sure I see the need for the microwave towers in Glacier so there should perhaps be some type of check on the power of DHS in this bill.


30 posted on 04/25/2012 12:47:25 PM PDT by free me (heartless)
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To: free me
Other issues,

DHS handling of TSA and callousness toward the average citizen, seniors and children. Their ever expanding presence to roads, bus stations, partnering with local law enforcement. Memos implying people that are conservative are a security risk..Growing and giving them more power is a concern.

31 posted on 04/25/2012 12:59:26 PM PDT by opentalk
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To: opentalk

This radical legislation introduced by Rep. Rob Bishop (R-UT) would suspend the enforcement of almost all the nation’s environmental laws on all lands under the jurisdiction of the Departments of the Interior and Agriculture within 100 miles of the northern border with Canada and the southern border with Mexico.


This may be a good thing.........................


32 posted on 04/25/2012 1:06:34 PM PDT by PeterPrinciple (Lord, save me from some conservatives, they don't understand history any better than liberals.)
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To: Myrddin

If that is the case, why is the grand Staircase Escalante administered by the Bureau of Land Management not included?

It is the largest park in the lower 48 and is not under the Dept of interior or agriculture.


33 posted on 04/25/2012 1:14:21 PM PDT by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 ..... Crucifixion is coming)
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To: PeterPrinciple

The environmental part is not my concern.


34 posted on 04/25/2012 1:32:40 PM PDT by opentalk
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To: opentalk

TSA should be abolished! This bill deals with the Border Patrol more so than it’s parent agency.


35 posted on 04/25/2012 2:32:43 PM PDT by free me (heartless)
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To: bert
I recall that area was excluded from access by action under Clinton to prevent access to the coal fields so his buddies in the Riady organization wouldn't have to deal with competition.
36 posted on 04/25/2012 3:00:37 PM PDT by Myrddin
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To: free me
In the current environment -lose your passport if you owe the IRS, (as they talk about raising taxes), Drones over the US, NDAA ...

Mexican border area makes sense, giving DHS extra power around circumference of US seems to add more to the big brother mentality.

Unless I am misinterpreting this, it includes the whole southern tip of FL, everglades.

..shall apply to all sections of the international land and maritime borders of the United States within 100 miles of such borders

H.R. 1505

37 posted on 04/25/2012 3:17:47 PM PDT by opentalk
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To: Whenifhow

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38 posted on 04/29/2012 5:17:02 PM PDT by TEXOKIE
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To: KarlInOhio

Some of these parks are in areas where there are no maintained roads and winter renders the borders impassable. It isn’t just infiltration routes. Teddy Rooseveldt National Park? Not even close to the border. Brutal terrain to go cross country, and in winter?<p.By the time the US secures the borders, it won’t be to keep others out, it will be to keep us in.


39 posted on 04/29/2012 5:33:26 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing)
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