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To: savagesusie
Only idiots remove “social issues” from economics. Social conditions determine the economics. To think “social issues are a luxury” is like saying you can be a human being with no emotions. It can’t happen-—if it does—it is a worthless life and inhumane.

I call bull on this. When you say 'social issues', you simply mean Christian morality. And Christian morality does not make economies grow and thrive.

Otherwise, Buddhist China and Hindu India would never have been the world's biggest economies in past centuries, with Christian Europe a backwards fleaspeck.

A good work ethic and respect for another's property are the essential basics for prosperity. Which are not solely inherent in Christianity.

22 posted on 04/26/2012 4:45:33 PM PDT by gogogodzilla (Live free or die!)
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To: gogogodzilla; savagesusie

I call bull on this. When you say ‘social issues’, you simply mean Christian morality. And Christian morality does not make economies grow and thrive.

Otherwise, Buddhist China and Hindu India would never have been the world’s biggest economies in past centuries, with Christian Europe a backwards fleaspeck.


You have not a clue. Not one single clue. I call my ping list “Moral Absolutes” becaucse they are universal. It is not “Christian” morality that mandates not killing the unborn, sex within marriage, no same sex acts, etc. It is universal morality and is taught in Buddhist and Hindu and Judaic ancient scriptures. Even ancient China under Confucianism and the like had some basic morality going for it. Your hatred of Christianity is blinding you badly.


30 posted on 04/26/2012 5:08:22 PM PDT by little jeremiah (We will have to go through hell to get out of hell. Signed, a fanatic)
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To: gogogodzilla

No, NOT Christian Morality—Western Civilization starting with Plato’s Republic and the Nicomachean Ethics....I said “Western ideology” which is what formed our ideology and Worldview, shaped and dominated by Christianity—CERTAINLY....all for the most creative and FREE cultures in the history of mankind where even women and children were given dignity and worth—unlike non-Western cultures which lacked Christian Ethics and Values.

Christianity rid Western Civ of pederasty and slavery—common in all cultures, even Western ones until the ideas of Judeo/Christian Ethics rid the idea that sodomy was “good” and that marriage is between one woman and one man. This equality—elevated women and children—made Natural Law the basis of American Constitution-—Common Sense—that man and woman are different—equal under the law—but fundamentally different natures and have different—important roles—in the family unit.

Economics thrived with the efficiency of the family unit where women were equal in worth to man but had specific roles—as did men. There was order to God’s design of human beings—so children would flourish and be emotionally healthy. Individualism is what comes from Christianity—dignity and worth to all human beings=-the Christian paradigm made America possible. Christian Ethics—as CS Lewis stated—is the most perfect ideology for human flourishing and equality and freedom. Nothing else will work.

Even Machiavelli knew that without Virtue—there can be no freedom. It is proven throughout all of history.


41 posted on 04/27/2012 12:26:13 AM PDT by savagesusie (Right Reason According to Nature = Just Law)
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