Before God we are all equally wise - and equally foolish.
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Posted on 04/26/2012 9:43:54 PM PDT by Steelfish
Thinking Can Undermine Religious Faith, Study Finds Those who think more analytically are less inclined to be religious believers than are those who tend to follow a gut instinct, researchers conclude.
Those who think more analytically are less inclined to be religious believers than are those who tend to follow a gut instinct, researchers conclude. By Amina Khan, Los Angeles Times April 26, 2012
Scientists have revealed one of the reasons why some folks are less religious than others: They think more analytically, rather than going with their gut. And thinking analytically can cause religious belief to wane — for skeptics and true believers alike.
The study, published in Friday's edition of the journal Science, indicates that belief may be a more malleable feature of the human psyche than those of strong faith may think.
The cognitive origins of belief — and disbelief — traditionally haven't been explored with academic rigor, said lead author Will Gervais, a social psychologist at the University of British Columbia in Vancouver, Canada.
"There's been a long-standing intellectual tradition of treating science as one thing and religion as separate, and never the twain shall meet," he said. But in recent years, he added, there has been a push "to understand religion and why our species has the capacity for religion."
According to one theory of human thinking, the brain processes information using two systems. The first relies on mental shortcuts by using intuitive responses — a gut instinct, if you will — to quickly arrive at a conclusion. The other employs deliberative analysis, which uses reason to arrive at a conclusion.
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Pure propaganda. The greatest scientific minds have been among the most religious.
What exactly do they think theology is? A series of “gut feelings” that just happened to be codified and studied ad infinitum for the past several thousand years?
Only if you're muslim, mormon or a tree hugging liberal.
I am sure this “study” had an outcome before it had a methodology.
Thinking undermines Atheism.
More secularist twaddle.
Thinking can undermine faith if people forget that in His Own Word God tells us that now we see through a glass darkly. We aren’t meant to know the meaning of every mystery now, we’re told this. When people get hung up on thinking they have to “prove” their faith either to others or themselves, they are forgetting this important thing. It wouldn’t be called “faith” if it was supposed to be proveable on a scientific standard at all times. Though science is interestingly enough proving to uphold many events of the Bible.
Faith can’t be proven. Science is already leading us down many ethical conundrums through discoveries that have both positive and negative possibilities, morally speaking. (Though I really believe an earlier time of more common sense and less PC would have known better how to deal with these matters).
Such a crock... and very poorly written.
Thinking only increases my faith. The more one knows of true science, and the monumental struggle with microbes and their collective intelect, the more one realizes that biology, and existence is so much deeper than the self.
To God the Glory....
The authors need to ask Aquinas and Benedict XVI about serious thinking.
The devil will test your faith. It’s up to you in the end, though.
This lady apparently comes from a Muslim background. Thinking will clearly undermine the faith of a Muslim.
Anyone who has read Issac Newton, Tomas Aquinas, Augustine or John Calvin will have to admit that these guys were probably among the deepest thinkers in world history. Their faith was bolstered by thinking.
Christianity is a thinking man’s religion.
These guys, Lee Strobel and Josh McDowell, both go a long way toward that end. Sometime check out their works. I recommend The Case for a Creator and Evidence that Demands a Verdict.
Well...Duh!
In fact, my own analytical mind pulled my brain out my own "L.A." some time ago.
Back to re-reading the Good News. After that, some star gazing... and I don't mean Hollywood.
Because everyone knows that secular people are all so very clever. Isn’t that so, Mr Gore?
I don’t say Biblical events, principles, and prophecy (especially that which has already occurred, he) can’t be proved, only that faith can’t necessarily and needn’t be proven. It can’t be proven that faith in Jesus’ sacrifice to save us from sin is sufficient, but having first, faith that He is the Son of God, and second, faith that His Blood IS sufficient, I believe is sufficient to my salvation. The hows and wherefores and whys of that I see through a glass darkly, along with other mysteries such as the Second Coming and the Rapture, Hell, etc, but God says I’ll see later. That’s good enough for me.
I AM glad that science has been able to shore up many of the events and stories of Biblical history.
Of course the things that are beyond my knowledge, whether scientifically proven or still a mystery (such as the miracles Jesus performed), I do what Jesus said-have the faith of a little child-utterly trusting Him-or as a mustard seed-still trusting Him, though doubting myself or others.
By nature...by definition...how much of the nature of the creation would we be capable of understanding? If “our ways are not your ways”...when sent, was it to be disregarded?
It will be this way. Choose wisely.
Thinking deminished my adherence to religious dogma, but vastly improved my relationship with my Savior.
That’s what I mean-we’ve already been told by God more than once in various verses that we’re not meant to know the whole truth while we’re here. Eve wanted to know everything which God knew by eating from the fruit of the tree of knowledge after God Himself forbade it. I think God has a reason for denying us “the whole truth” before Heaven-he doesn’t wanted us to be tempted that we’re equal with Him. That was Lucifer’s mistake.
Of course, He gave us a mind to know all that we’re meant to know while here, and it already seems a lot, with so much more to know. But there’s just that bit He’s keeping back-as I say, I believe mostly things like Jesus’ miracles, the mysteries of Revelations, the Rapture, things like that-because we’re human, we can’t handle knowing every last thing while we”re still here in the old bodies of flesh.
There is a difference between wisdom and intelligence. Trained ability in math and science does not endow a person with the ability to put it all together. A person can be educated well beyond their intelligence.
Amina Khan. LOL!
Apologies- Didn’t see this.
Not a problem. The discussion is worthwhile. Having it in one thread better serves the purpose.
This is very confusing. First, you attribute ability in math and science to "training", and deprecate it as such. Then you say we can be educated beyond our intelligence! Isn't education training? What are you trying to say?
what a stupid article.
Everyone has a religion, even if it doesn’t LOOK like what we would normally call a religion. Whether its global warming, worship of big government or vain worship of their own bodies, there is always a ‘religion’ of some kind.
“There’s been a long-standing intellectual tradition of treating science as one thing and religion as separate, and never the twain shall meet,” he said.
These atheists do not comprehend faith and the realm of human existence it serves - spirit. They think they are the experts on human existence but they only acknowledge the material. That is like the sand thinking it is the cement. I guess they believe art comes out of thinking, too. And love comes out of thinking. Compassion and empathy comes out of thinking. The inspiration of art and music must come out of thinking...
I would never want to live in an atheist’s body if they are this shallow and hollow.
Bookmark for later.
I think she meant to say "cult" instead of "Religious Faith"
Cult people do not think, they obey.
Disclaimer: I've never been in a cult so I'm just assuming about the non thinking
I only got sneakers on and this article is full of Poooo !
Imagine how many brilliant geniuses will eventually “think” themselves right into eternal damnation.
Scary.
But the best of all is to let him read no science but to give him a grand general idea that he knows it all and that everything he happens to have picked up in casual talk and reading is "the results of modern investigation'. Do remember you are there to fuddle him. From the way some of you young fiends talk, anyone would suppose it was our job to teach!
--from the Screwtape Letters, intercepted from the infernal postal service by CS Lewis
Rationalize themselves there yes...but honest thought has a tendency to validate the existence of a transcendent self existent moral God if carried all the way through to the logical end.
LOL! Well said!
Extending it further, the only religions I see that do not have inherent contradictions are Christianity and Zoroastrianism. Out of this Catholicism is the most logical to my mind.
there are also simple believing Catholics and to them, Catholicism is the most emotionally bringing them closer to God -- God is God of emotion, logic etc. etc.
Well said.
I sometimes think,or rather feel,that I was tricked and now that carnal mind and it's thinking seem to wander endlessly about looking for a way out.To be carnally minded is indeed death.
He must increase and I must decrease.
Most of the ones I know will not make it through the brick wall they’ve carefully erected.
I guess I’m a simpleton.
I can sit and watch a colony of ants carrying on their daily business and see God’s hand at work.
I just don’t have enough faith to be an atheist.
:)
LOL
Tell it to Sir Issac Newton. Probably the greatest scientist who ever lived who in fact spent more time studying and commenting on the Bible (over a million words of commentary) than on scientific research.
Faith is EVIDENCE of things unseen.
Analytical thinking provides that evidence.
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