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South Florida Survivalists Prepare for the Apocalypse
Miami New Times ^ | Thursday, Apr 26 2012 | Stefan Kamph

Posted on 04/28/2012 11:14:17 PM PDT by nickcarraway

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To: nickcarraway

Good post - thanks


81 posted on 04/29/2012 2:54:02 PM PDT by Iron Munro (If Repub's paid as much attention to Rush Limbaugh as the Dem's do, we wouldn't be in this mess)
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To: spirited irish

It is the fact that , while you could conceivably feed one beggar in Spain, if you tried to feed them all, you would soon be a beggar, yourself. And if you became known as someone who was feeding beggars, you would soon be overrun with them.


82 posted on 04/29/2012 2:58:49 PM PDT by reformedliberal
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To: spirited irish
As for the preppers, it seems to me that only with hardened hearts can they feed themselves while all around them are those who are starving.

On a national scale, it is this kind of daffy, feel-good thinking that has led to the impending bankruptcy of the nation.

Sometimes adults have to be able to make rational, informed judgements and distinguish between want and need, between what feels good and what is sensible and sustainable, between eating your feed corn or not.


83 posted on 04/29/2012 3:29:40 PM PDT by Iron Munro (If Repub's paid as much attention to Rush Limbaugh as the Dem's do, we wouldn't be in this mess)
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To: reformedliberal

I purchased a physicians desk reference book and a nurses guide to drugs based on the recommendation of a nurse friend. I also have numerous other medical references. My goal is to have a basic level of knowledge myself and supplies for most basic problems. Perhaps if its something serious there will be someone around who can use those items to help.

As you say its unrealistic to develop this level of knowledge as a hobby.


84 posted on 04/29/2012 3:32:48 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: driftdiver

One thing you need to understand is that the PDR is basically a reprint of what the drug company puts in the box with the meds. It is a good basic guide but cross check what you read there.


85 posted on 04/29/2012 3:48:26 PM PDT by Clay Moore (The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of a fool to the left. Ecclesiastes 10:2)
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To: GladesGuru

Your sentiments are perfectly reasonable, and I for one find no fault with them.

However,the constant subject of the article under discussion is the advent of something on the order of an apocalyse rather than a hurricane, a house fire as one poster sarcastically alluded to, or perhaps a war fought in another country.

With a hurricane for instance, one may reasonably expect to recover since the rest of the nation is intact and able to send help. But an apocalypse speaks of wholesale devastation with no expectation of help from a neighboring state.

It is on the basis of an apocalyptic scenario that my observations rest.


86 posted on 04/29/2012 4:02:33 PM PDT by spirited irish
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To: spirited irish; GladesGuru

“It is on the basis of an apocalyptic scenario that my observations rest.”

Still doesn’t make any sense. I am not the government, nor am I responsible for everyone else. Charity is one thing but sacrificing my family to help someone else isn’t moral.

Each and every person has an individual responsibility to care for themselves.


87 posted on 04/29/2012 4:13:52 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Iron Munro

“On a national scale, it is this kind of daffy, feel-good thinking that has led to the impending bankruptcy of the nation.”

Spirited: You have confused feel-goodism with a realistic assessment. Unless a person is a conscienceless psychopath then he will in fact have to “harden his heart” in order that he may in any way kill another human being.


88 posted on 04/29/2012 4:16:33 PM PDT by spirited irish
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To: nickcarraway

I’ve met the Neal in this story. Good guy and their group has some other good folks in it.


89 posted on 04/29/2012 4:25:00 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: spirited irish
Unless a person is a conscienceless psychopath then he will in fact have to “harden his heart” in order that he may in any way kill another human being.

Would that derogatory appellation apply to a prepper who decided to "kill" his own child by giving their stored food to a mooching stranger who did nothing at all to prepare for his own well being?


90 posted on 04/29/2012 4:27:25 PM PDT by Iron Munro (If Repub's paid as much attention to Rush Limbaugh as the Dem's do, we wouldn't be in this mess)
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To: Iron Munro; spirited irish

Let me get this straight. If you set aside provisions to prepare against lean times, as people have done for thousands of years, then you are evil.

However, if you choose not to provide for yourself or your family then you are on a higher moral ground.

Is that it?


91 posted on 04/29/2012 4:31:56 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Graybeard58
"What's the shelf life of unrefigerated insulin? I don't take it but my wife does."

Lawsy, man. Get one of those 6-pack size DC coolers and enough solar array capacity to run it.

Or, if you live anywhere where the temp. gets below freezing in the winter, dig a big-assed hole in the ground, insulate the hell out of it, and put in plastic jugs of frozen water (aka ice). My New England forebears used to cut ice out of ponds and ship it all over the world for food preservation and to last through the year. They had to use sawdust for insulation. Foam insulation works MUCH better.

92 posted on 04/29/2012 4:36:53 PM PDT by Wonder Warthog
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To: GladesGuru
"Coming from both an American and a Jewish background, I am aware of the possibilities. I am also not going to become a bar of soap without a fight."

Good on you, bro. It's a shame that so many of your genetic cousins here in America seem unable to grasp the notion. I daresay that those who managed to make it out of Europe ahead of the indigenous soapmakers don't have that blindness. Especially those concentrated at the east end of the Mediterranean. THEY "get it".

93 posted on 04/29/2012 4:47:26 PM PDT by Wonder Warthog
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To: nickcarraway

ok too weird. i just ordered these last night after spending about 4 hours of research. i ordered amoxicillin and ciprofloxacin online from california vetetinary supply. total was about 55 dollars for both. 250 mg 100 pills each.


94 posted on 04/29/2012 5:01:40 PM PDT by Donnafrflorida (Thru HIM all things are possible.)
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To: spirited irish

In response to your thoughtful reply, may I inject a chilling, but perhaps unavoidable thought?

Perhaps, it may be that Paul Johnson was correct when he said that if the American experiment in self government failed, that which would come afterward would be unspeakably worse.

And, “Unspeakable” squats in the White Hut as I type.

Another thought: “The survivors will envy the dead”.

That will be assured if the survivors are unable to force the acceptance of basic civilization upon the Ferals.


95 posted on 04/29/2012 6:01:30 PM PDT by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon freedom, it is necessary to examine principles."...the public interest)
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To: blam

Gadz! I really dislike body armor. It’s hard for a 50+ year old to run in, and I have trouble finding a carrier that will fit around my belly...............;)


96 posted on 04/29/2012 7:00:25 PM PDT by Sarajevo ( Alcohol does not solve any problems, but then again, neither does milk.)
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To: CitizenUSA
This summer, a water main ruptured in my neighborhood.

Mine had two breaks within a week of the other in the last month. One in front of my home.

Seeing the water in the street I wasted no time getting water in every bucket and basin I had. The idea of not being able to flush the toilet was enough to scramble!!!!!.... Amazing the comfort you have even in something as simple as storing water.....

97 posted on 04/29/2012 8:21:04 PM PDT by caww
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To: blam

That’s very interesting! Good idea for picnics and bar-b-ques as well..... I’m going to do that for my families next get together.


98 posted on 04/29/2012 8:28:33 PM PDT by caww
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To: Iron Munro

You’re welcome.


99 posted on 04/29/2012 11:12:50 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: nickcarraway
I was in South Florida in the '80s. I expect post -apocalyptic Oregon to be about the same. :)
100 posted on 04/30/2012 10:43:56 AM PDT by gundog (Help us, Nairobi-Wan Kenobi...you're our only hope.)
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