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As for the preppers, it seems to me that only with hardened hearts can they feed themselves while all around them are those who are starving.

Those that feed themselves won't be a logistics burden on an emergency system that may be stressed trying to feed those starving.

So non-preppers are the hard-hearted, selfish ones, taking food that could be used by the needy. If you aren't part of the solution, you are part of the problem.

/johnny

“Those that feed themselves won’t be a logistics burden on an emergency system that may be stressed trying to feed those starving.”

Spirited: The apocalyptic vision under discussion foresees the collapse of America’s infrastructure, meaning there will be no power, no law enforcement, no transportation of food, no medical care, and so on.

“So non-preppers are the hard-hearted, selfish ones, taking food that could be used by the needy. If you aren’t part of the solution, you are part of the problem.”

Spirited: Your conclusion erroneously assumes that all “non-preppers” will react in the same way, that is “taking food that could be used for the needy.”

In the first place, the ‘needy’ will be all non-preppers, none excluded. In the second place, a percentage of non-preppers will resort to violence, including murder and even cannibalism in their quest for survival. It is this group that preppers most fear.

And finally, there will be non-preppers who will choose not to steal, murder, etc. on behalf of saving their own lives.

Stalin’s man-made famine foreshadows the apocalyptic vision under discussion. In one way or another, all of the intended victims had been ‘preppers” in that they were provisioned.

Having forcibly removed and/or destroyed and/or polluted in some manner all food-sources, water (wells, etc), livestock, grain, medical supplies, etc., two groups of people emerged. Those who chose to steal, murder, and even cannibalize other human beings in order to save their own lives and those who chose not to.

"So non-preppers are the hard-hearted, selfish ones, taking food that could be used by the needy. If you aren't part of the solution, you are part of the problem."

Expect to hear more of these sorts of things...It's the 43% who presently pay no taxes, mostly won't work and are already depending on you who will be the helpless victims when TSHTF.

It is said that when the Spanish brought the potato to Europe from Peru that the European population exploded and their periodic bouts of famine and starvation mostly ended.

When the potato virus killed the Irish potato crop (I know the English had a hand) in the middle of the 1800's, 1.5 million Irish starved to death and 1.5 million emmigrated.

Ireland is still the only country in the world that has a lower population today than they had in 1840.

I worry that something like that will happen here when TSHTF.

Well put, JRandom.

There is no way in Hell that my family is going to be dependent on the largesse or competence of Government if this break down. We will be the folks who say to them “Thanks, but those folks down the way are much worse off than we are. If you could leave some xxx we’d be grateful. But take your stuff over there where they really need it.”