Posted on 04/29/2012 5:33:41 AM PDT by Milagros
>>,no.
Uhuh, "no". Just as the Oprichnik before you, you condone it when fallible and uninspired men assume dominion over the faith of others.
Meanwhile, the American Declaration of Independence asserts that: TO SECURE THESE RIGHTS, governments are instituted among men
To secure them from what?
From Baal, and the human collective nature to keep reinventing it. Thats what.
So, you failed again? After all, you must have since you ran from this simple point:
Jefferson also cut stories of miracles and the supernatural out of his Bible - what he called of vulgar ignorance, of things impossible, or superstitions, fanaticisms, and fabrications. He was brilliant in the secular sense, but a twit when it came to Christianity.
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704425804576220612714039084.html
That’s okay. You can’t do anything but fail anyway.
>>heavily tinged with paranoid delusions, no.
What are the bullet ridden corpses of those who were murdered by religious fanatics “tinged” with in Nigeria this morning, super genius?
FAIL.
>>You cant do anything but fail anyway.
Uhuh. Folks like you aboard the Theocratic jackwagon would like to think this...
The American Declaration of Independence
...was a failure too.
Nonetheless, the American REALITY is that our implementation of the Declaration and the establishment of this Republic, founded upon the 1st amendment, keeps your mystery-cultic ilk from doing your collective state-established business upon the American temple steps.
So boo hoo. No royal jelly for you. Bzzzzz.
>>this simple point
Simple, to a regurgitating collectivist parrot perhaps.
Jefferson rejected temporal human religious concoctions and preferred, instead, a personal relationship constituted through a lifetime of interaction with his Creator, and the experience and self-evident Truth manifested therein.
And thank GOD he and his fellows were inspired by that Creator to found this American Republic where other INDIVIDUALS are FREE ( much to your evident chagrine ) to do so as well.
You wrote:
“What are the bullet ridden corpses of those who were murdered by religious fanatics tinged with in Nigeria this morning, super genius?”
What are they? They are “bullet ridden corpses”.
And you still have paranoid delusuions.
Jefferson still denied Christ performed miracles.
“Nonetheless, the American REALITY is that our implementation of the Declaration and the establishment of this Republic, founded upon the 1st amendment, keeps your mystery-cultic ilk from doing your collective state-established business upon the American temple steps. So boo hoo. No royal jelly for you. Bzzzzz.”
And you still have paranoid delusions. You fail again.
You wrote:
“Jefferson rejected temporal human religious concoctions and preferred, instead, a personal relationship constituted through a lifetime of interaction with his Creator, and the experience and self-evident Truth manifested therein.”
Jefferson rejected the reality of miracles and the supernatural in the life of Christ. Essentially he denied who Christ really is. Jefferson was brilliant in the secular sense, but a shortsighted twit in terms of the Christian Faith. Those are just the facts.
Continue to fail. It’s all you can do.
Jefferson’s faith was his own - and unlike militant religious tyrants, he kept it that way. No doubt it evolved throughout his lifetime with its ultimate state known only to Jefferson and his Creator.
So, what else about America and the 1st amendment would you prefer to be a failure, Comrade?
>>What are they? They are bullet ridden corpses.
Bullet ridden, pacified, corpses. Yep.
That FAIL or a GO in your theocratic universe, Comrade Collectivist?
>>Jefferson rejected the reality of miracles
>>and the supernatural in the life of Christ.
So what if he did?
Unlike historical instances where the Roman Mystery fraud has been able to perch upon the steps of government and project the power thereof, in America denying miracles or the supernatural is not a crime.
Boo hoo. No royal indulgence jelly for you.
You wrote:
“So, what else about America and the 1st amendment would you prefer to be a failure, Comrade?”
Show me where I said I would prefer something about America and the First Amendment to be a failure.
When you fail to do that, and you will, what will your lie tell us about you?
Oh, so now you agree with Jefferson that fallible and uninspired men, like the Eunuchs running the fraudulent Roman Mystery sun-cult, should not be allowed to assume dominion over the faith of others?
You wrote:
“So what if he did?”
Then he was wrong.
“Unlike historical instances where the Roman Mystery fraud has been able to perch upon the steps of government and project the power thereof, in America denying miracles or the supernatural is not a crime.”
Does that make doing it anymore intelligent or right?
“That FAIL or a GO in your theocratic universe, Comrade Collectivist?”
To be a martyr for Christ is to enter Heaven. To make someone a martyr is to enter Hell. Is that fail of go for you in your theosciolist universe, moron?
You wrote:
“Oh, so now you agree with Jefferson that fallible and uninspired men, like the Eunuchs running the fraudulent Roman Mystery sun-cult, should not be allowed to assume dominion over the faith of others?”
I don’t see anywhere where Jefferson claimed to know with certitude that there were men who were eunuchs running a “fraudulent Roman Mystery sun-cult”. When you prove that that was his view I’ll consider it. Otherwise, I can only conclude it is more of your delusions. When you fail to provide the evidence for your delusion about Jefferson’s beliefs - and you will - we will see you for what you are once again. Sciolism is your way.
>>Show me where I said I would prefer something about America and the First Amendment to be a failure.
Was the American Declaration of Independence, primarily authored by Thomas Jefferson, a failure because Jefferson refused to parrot your particular religious concoction?
The American Declaration of Independence
>>I dont see anywhere where Jefferson claimed to know with certitude that there were men who were eunuchs running a fraudulent Roman Mystery sun-cult.
Quack, waddle,
"...who, being themselves but fallible and uninspired men, have assumed dominion over the faith of others, setting up their own opinions and modes of thinking as the only true and infallible, and as such endeavoring to impose them on others, hath established and maintained false religions over the greatest part of the world, and through all time;"
--The Virginia Act For Establishing Religious Freedom
--Thomas Jefferson, 1786
[To be a martyr for Christ is to enter Heaven. To make someone a martyr is to enter Hell.]
You have to be a martyr for Christ to enter Heaven?
What if I buy some indulgences, can I still get a vacation to Planet Kolob?
Oh wait, that’s the wrong fraudulent Mystery Cult.
You wrote:
“Was the American Declaration of Independence, primarily authored by Thomas Jefferson, a failure because Jefferson refused to parrot your particular religious concoction?”
Why do you believe the Declaration of Independence was a failure?
As expected, you failed. I dont see anywhere where Jefferson claimed to know with certitude that there were men who were eunuchs running a fraudulent Roman Mystery sun-cult. And you failed to provide any such evidence that Jefferson ever claimed such. Thanks for proving my point. When you find Jefferson writings about eunuchs running a “fraudulent Roman Mystery sun-cult” you let me know.
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