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To: JediJones

“But if Romney is elected, we can’t turn things around until 2020. We would be far better off turning them around in 2016 by electing a conservative.”

You’re wrong. If Romney loses the election, the republican party will move even further to the left in 2016.

Four years ago many folks also said that it would be better if McCain lost as it would give conservatives a chance to “turn things around” this year. How did that work out?

Both parties move to the center when they lose. Your strategy ignores this basic historical fact.

The best hope for conservatives is that Romney picks a conservative VP who becomes influential in the administration and then succeeds him as president.


172 posted on 04/30/2012 4:09:56 PM PDT by bibo_ergo_sum
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To: bibo_ergo_sum

Amen. Spot on. Sad it has to be this way, but that’s the way it is and we need to make it happen as opposed to doing anything, IMHO, to enable Obama another four years to completely flush this Republic.


178 posted on 04/30/2012 8:34:09 PM PDT by Jeff Head (Freedom is not free, never has been, never will be (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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To: bibo_ergo_sum

John Kerry lost in 2004. The “D” party didn’t move to the center in 2008. Ford lost in 1976. The “R” party didn’t move to the center in 1980. So I don’t see any basis for your rule.

I’m saying we need to have a better plan leading up to 2016, not just a “wait and see what happens” posture.

Romney won’t pick a conservative V.P. if he’s doing well in the polls and everyone everywhere says they’re going to vote for him no matter what. You need to understand how to extract some leverage. It doesn’t happen when you make things easy for Romney and give him a guaranteed vote. He needs to see there are a bunch of people like me in the base who are not prepared to vote for him if he’s going to offer the base anything new.


179 posted on 04/30/2012 8:37:17 PM PDT by JediJones (From the makers of Romney, Bloomberg/Schwarzenegger 2016. Because the GOP can never go too far left.)
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To: bibo_ergo_sum

Then the Republican party will continue to lose.


181 posted on 04/30/2012 8:41:23 PM PDT by JCBreckenridge
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