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To: Wurlitzer

So do you have some defined point at which people cease having the right to be involved in politics because they associate? It is 2 people, 3 people, 10 people 100 people?

Are the individuals who happen to be part of those Unions, Corporation or Churches cease to be people due to the association?

Personally I thought that was one of the better decisions.

Let’s make this compare and contrast point, should a local business with moderate means be barred from being involved in politics while George Soros, billionaire, can dump money as he sees fit?

I think you need to re-examine your premises.


18 posted on 04/30/2012 9:00:42 AM PDT by drbuzzard (different league)
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To: drbuzzard

No, I do not need to re-examine my premise as the Constitution, Declaration of Independence and the Federalist Papers are replete with references to We the People or individual rights.

Under your premise and that of the political ruling elite in black robes, an individual (which should be supreme in our country) can never compete with the deep pockets on a non-living entity like a corporation or a union.

An individual should be able to have their voice heard above a non citizen be it a business or union.

Lets face it if corporations and unions and churches can contribute votes or leverage are being bought. Nobody makes contribution of that magnitude without expecting something in return.

Under We The People, a max limit of ~~$2,000 or somewhere in that range can be used to support a candidate’s message NOT $2,000,000 TO BUY LEVERAGE.

In NYS, unless you have deep, deep pockets, you cannot counter the propaganda of all the communist public unions. It is useless to even run a candidate who will not bend us over to take it in the rear from these commies.

No PACs, no bundlers, and in reality, no parties. Only individual contributions to individual candidates. IMO it is the only way to make politicians beholding to the citizens and not deep pocket corporations or unions.

In your question to me; should a local business man be barred from being involved in politics while George Soros billionaire can dump money as he sees fit. EXACTLY my point. He should be barred from buying a candidate.

The local business man IS NOT BARRED from the political process, he is simply limited to what any other citizen can contribute. George Soros would be barred by a similar restriction.

Under the ruling elite’s rules, no private citizen can compete with large businesses or unions or churches nor should they have to as they are NOT “We The People”.

As it stands right now, thanks to those political hacks, other than to hope the Secret Service lets me stand on the sidewalk and protest I and millions like me have no voice.

The recent USSC ruling on campaign contributions and the sneaky backdoor legislation signed into law last week have eviscerated the Free Speech portion of the First Amendment as it pertains to We The People and Political speech which was its original intent.

On final item: The money used by corporations or unions are obtained from We The People so for example if I still had Progressive Insurance, I would still be in the position of partially funding communist candidates as Progressive takes part of my premium for such purposes.

Under my beliefs, my money would only go to get the message out for a candidate who actually believes in the Constitution and maintains the oath they took to support it.


19 posted on 04/30/2012 12:06:23 PM PDT by Wurlitzer (Nothing says "ignorance" like Islam!)
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