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Bill Keller: End may be near for monstrous North Korean regime(the day after?)
Jakarta Globe ^
| 04/30/12
| BILL KELLER
Posted on 05/01/2012 6:22:17 AM PDT by TigerLikesRooster
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Well, NK had already created a mess. In recent days, it also managed to figure out that it can use this situation to its advantage. Threat of unleashing the mess in all directions if it collapses could ward off pressure from its neighbors, according to its reasoning. This approach did manage to buy the regime some time. Temporarily.
Watching over this development is China. It has been making the futile effort to maintain the status quo, which is about to end. It will definitely try to control "the day after." The way it has been handling N. Korean problem does not exactly inspire confidence. It will try again to have it all by itself, pusing things too far. It will make a bigger mess, which bite it in the ass. It will consume too much of Chinese attention and resources in the end. The result is that it will overextend itself. China has outstanding domestic problems and potential clashes with many of its neighbors. The center won't hold if it is too obsessed with N. Korea. It is not the first time it happened to China. They had this problem in the past.
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posted on
05/01/2012 6:24:10 AM PDT
by
TigerLikesRooster
(The way to crush the bourgeois is to grind them between the millstones of taxation and inflation)
To: TigerLikesRooster
Very little happens in NK without the PRC’s approval.
To: TigerLikesRooster
I could possibly be cheered by this story, if it weren’t for the fact that Bill Keller hasn’t a shred of integrity or credibility.
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posted on
05/01/2012 6:27:58 AM PDT
by
DGHoodini
(Iran Azadi)
To: TigerLikesRooster
The Kims followed Stalin's number one rule to keep power. (Paraphrase) Step on the masses with all of your weight and never give them a breath, lest they entertain rebellion...
Mike
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posted on
05/01/2012 6:34:21 AM PDT
by
MichaelP
(The ultimate result of shielding men from the effects of folly is to fill the world with fools ~HS)
To: TigerLikesRooster
China likely has its agents and supporters spread throughout DPRK’s Army. When TSHTF, China will attempt to organize them into a Government.
Much will happen behind the scenes. What we will likely see from the distant vantage point in the West is announcement of a coup and a quick, bloody purge of the Kim regime.
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posted on
05/01/2012 6:36:31 AM PDT
by
PGR88
To: TigerLikesRooster
” It will try again to have it all by itself, pusing things too far. It will make a bigger mess, which bite it in the ass. It will consume too much of Chinese attention and resources in the end. The result is that it will overextend itself. “
Let’s hope so.
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posted on
05/01/2012 6:36:37 AM PDT
by
nuconvert
( Khomeini promised change too // Hail, Chairman O)
To: DGHoodini
Yeah, on a same league as Krugman. LOL. There are some folks who are a couple of steps ahead of him when it comes to N. Korea. They know smooth management of the aftermath is not possible. Bill Keller is still up there, dreaming that there could be some miracle deal with China on this issue. The progress in N. Korea is not from bad to good, but from ‘unfathomably hellish’ to ‘very disastrous.’
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posted on
05/01/2012 6:37:40 AM PDT
by
TigerLikesRooster
(The way to crush the bourgeois is to grind them between the millstones of taxation and inflation)
To: PGR88
I suspect behind the scenes, China and South Korea have been talking about how to handle NoKo when the SHTF.
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posted on
05/01/2012 6:38:40 AM PDT
by
dfwgator
(Don't wake up in a roadside ditch. Get rid of Romney.)
To: TigerLikesRooster
China has a lot of experience with this. Their methods have been effective historically. Kill anyone who causes any problems.
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posted on
05/01/2012 6:42:04 AM PDT
by
driftdiver
(I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
To: Eric in the Ozarks
“Very little happens in NK without the PRCs approval.”
Actually, North Korea is more like China’s crazy brother who won’t get a job.
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posted on
05/01/2012 6:44:20 AM PDT
by
AppyPappy
(If you really want to annoy someone, point out something obvious that they are trying hard to ignore)
To: driftdiver
China's Achilles Heel is over-extension. There are cases where the center collapsed because it got bogged down in a protracted mess. Based on the current behavior of Chinese regime, I don't see them handling this in a “reasonable manner.”
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posted on
05/01/2012 6:46:33 AM PDT
by
TigerLikesRooster
(The way to crush the bourgeois is to grind them between the millstones of taxation and inflation)
To: PGR88
For ONCE I’d love to see the FHTS!
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posted on
05/01/2012 6:49:14 AM PDT
by
AmericanInTokyo
(Study closely socialist Hugo Chavez' usage of 'popular masses' in the streets to thwart 1992 coup)
To: TigerLikesRooster
I’d agree it won’t be reasonable. Lots of people will die. The only real question is whether the violence will bleed over into other countries. IMO it probably will. My inlaws in SK think it will also.
The chinese military seems to be making a move for more power across the board. Its almost as if the civilian govt has no control over the military.
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posted on
05/01/2012 6:57:04 AM PDT
by
driftdiver
(I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
To: Eric in the Ozarks
Very little happens in NK without the PRCs approval.
We constantly made the mistake in the Cold War of assuming that the Soviet Union controlled everything in China, North Korea, or Vietnam; it's clearly been shown by history that they didn't.
The North Koreans are pretty independent; the Chinese help them to desperately avert the regime collapsing and having millions of refugees come across the border.
To: TigerLikesRooster
NK will not become democratic any time soon, it will go to Chinese rule. The people of NK are so brainwashed and undereducated there is no way they could maintain a free government on their own. It’s sad to say, but Chinese rule is actually their best option until a generation can be raised up that can think for themselves.
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posted on
05/01/2012 8:00:17 AM PDT
by
Marko413
To: TigerLikesRooster
when China pulls the plug then they're done.Until then the military will build their missiles and the people will continue to eat the bark off the trees.
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posted on
05/01/2012 8:09:44 AM PDT
by
Gay State Conservative
(Unlike Mrs Obama,I've Been Proud Of This Country My *Entire* Life!)
To: TigerLikesRooster
I just can’t take Keller seriously here.
His words remind me of other leftists who proudly celebrated the fall of the Berlin Wall, as if they had been stalwart anti-Communists all along, when the truth is that they had wholeheartedly supported the East German regime and all of its Socialist atrocities up to the very moment when it all collapsed, in the belief that the German Democratic Republic was superior in every way to the “corrupt” American system and Western values that they despised (and still do).
If the totalitarian, collectivist goals and actions that Keller has fervently championed ever triumph over traditional American ideals and freedoms, North Korea will serve as a good model of what will result.
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posted on
05/01/2012 8:10:25 AM PDT
by
Zeppo
("Happy Pony is on - and I'm NOT missing Happy Pony")
To: TigerLikesRooster
It explains how the regime has endured longer than any of its bestial prototypes: longer than Hitler, longer than Stalin, longer than Mao, longer than Pol Pot. The tools are enforced isolation, debilitating fear, dehumanizing hunger and utter dependence on the state. Not unlike what Keller's NYT advocates for every. Damn. Day.
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